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2/24/2009 8:21:24 PM

hmmmm

a lot of that comes down to your ailment, and body chemistry

2/24/2009 8:22:30 PM

Just try being happy naturally.

2/24/2009 8:22:50 PM

^lol

2/24/2009 8:25:00 PM

fuck that, ambien

2/24/2009 8:25:31 PM

you know what would make you happy?

more nudes of yourself posted on tdub

2/24/2009 8:25:34 PM

Life aint so bad.

2/24/2009 8:25:38 PM

Most of those drugs give me large blackouts in my memory. I don't like that...

2/24/2009 8:30:58 PM

i agree

2/24/2009 8:31:56 PM

2/24/2009 8:32:00 PM

Ambien makes me hallucinate because I end up staying awake.

Attivan doesn't do shit for me.

About 8 mg of Xanax or 5 of Klonopin and I'm good though

2/24/2009 8:32:07 PM

^
Does it make you forget hours of stuff?

2/24/2009 8:43:48 PM

im content with my painkillers and muscle relaxers.

2/24/2009 8:43:52 PM

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2/24/2009 8:45:23 PM

drugs are bad

2/24/2009 8:46:44 PM

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"Does it make you forget hours of stuff?"

nope

2/24/2009 8:47:13 PM

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"im content with my painkillers and muscle relaxers."

try relaxing naturally

2/24/2009 8:48:13 PM

is this a trick question? all 4 are benzodiazepines and will have very similar effects with equivalent dose and half life being the most significant differentiators.

[Edited on February 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM. Reason : lulz]

2/24/2009 8:48:18 PM

sounds like a hell of a tuesday night

try chasing with club soda

the extra acid will help to break down the pills even faster

2/24/2009 8:48:30 PM

2/24/2009 8:50:44 PM

Benzodiazepines Equivalents to Valium (Diazepam) 60 mg

   1. Alprazolam (Xanax) 6 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x10
   2. Chlordiazepoxide (Limbitrol) 150 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x0.4
   3. Clonazepam (Klonopin) 24 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x2.5
   4. Flurazepam (Dalmane) 90 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x 0.6
   5. Halazepam (Paxipam) 240 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x0.25
   6. Lorazepam (Ativan) 12 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x5.0
   7. Oxazepam (Serax) 60 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x1.0
   8. Temazepam (Restoril) 60 mg
         1. Valium = Dose x1.0

2/24/2009 8:51:07 PM

<3 drugs

<3 my xanax

2/24/2009 8:53:40 PM

i enjoy my ambien trips

2/24/2009 8:53:45 PM

2/24/2009 8:54:59 PM

I get high off of life
and benzos

2/24/2009 8:56:20 PM

hell you can find a better chart on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines

2/24/2009 8:56:22 PM

I rarely go anywhere without my Ativan. I take .5-1 mg whenever I start to get that weird feeling that comes right before a full blown panic attack.

2/24/2009 9:29:45 PM

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"Ambien makes me hallucinate because I end up staying awake."

one time i saw my bed turn into a snake when i was on ambien. most of my other trips involve things moving like i was underwater. good times.

2/24/2009 9:34:29 PM

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"Benzodiazepines Equivalents to Valium (Diazepam) 60 mg 1. Alprazolam (Xanax) 6 mg 1. Valium = Dose x10 2. Chlordiazepoxide (Limbitrol) 150 mg 1. Valium = Dose x0.4 3. Clonazepam (Klonopin) 24 mg 1. Valium = Dose x2.5 4. Flurazepam (Dalmane) 90 mg 1. Valium = Dose x 0.6 5. Halazepam (Paxipam) 240 mg 1. Valium = Dose x0.25 6. Lorazepam (Ativan) 12 mg 1. Valium = Dose x5.0 7. Oxazepam (Serax) 60 mg 1. Valium = Dose x1.0 8. Temazepam (Restoril) 60 mg 1. Valium = Dose x1.0"

This is wrong or, in wikipedia terms, [citation needed]

2/24/2009 10:03:28 PM

tripping on ambien is for losers. at least go drink a couple bottles of delsym

2/24/2009 10:10:23 PM

<3 drugs

<3 my xanax

2/24/2009 10:41:53 PM

^^I think Ill stick to ambien

[Edited on February 24, 2009 at 10:43 PM. Reason : ^]

2/24/2009 10:43:43 PM

srsly guys? wow....

why are you doing pills??

2/24/2009 10:48:00 PM

klonopin

2/24/2009 10:49:12 PM

^^because they are amazing

2/24/2009 10:56:02 PM

get more exercise
get more sleep

2/24/2009 10:57:28 PM

chew on some valerian root

2/24/2009 10:58:52 PM

why do you guys keep messing around with these things to have a good time? I could understand if you were having a panic attack, or trying to sleep, but to feel good?

Stop crying to your psychiatrist and start crying to a pain management center. Get some percocet and off you go. It kills the PHYSYICAL pain as well as the EMOTIONAL pain. You just can't beat this wonder drug.

2/25/2009 12:13:17 AM

^ I dont think there are any around here

2/25/2009 12:29:49 AM

i got some dick that'll wear you out

2/25/2009 12:35:01 AM

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"chew on some valerian root"

you want to see real pain?

2/25/2009 12:37:50 AM

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"Most of those drugs give me large blackouts in my memory. I don't like that..."

I think that happens to people that don't need them. I have severe anxiety so they just calm me down to a "regular" state.

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"is this a trick question?"

They don't all work for me. Attivan doesn't help at all, Valium barely helps. Xanax and Klonopin help the best.

2/25/2009 8:14:53 AM

Are you having trouble sleeping? Put a little Flunitrazepam in your drink. You will be out in no time.

oh an

hi RachelMarie

2/25/2009 8:34:30 AM

the "black market druggy side" lists them in this order (lowest to highest)

ativan
valium
klonopin
xanax

but thats for people who dont need them, and have the side effects that people "like"

medically, it 100% depends on the mental problem, the body chemistry, and interactions with other drugs. even diet can have an effect on how benzos react. grapefruit, for example, can be a big time potentiator.

basically, with benzodiazepines... if it makes you drowsy or if you experience any memory loss, then you're either on the wrong one or your dose is too high.

they usually don't get it right on the first time, and your doctor should be very willing to talk to you about changing meds or doses

2/25/2009 8:43:30 AM

try being happy naturally.

2/25/2009 9:15:13 AM

interesting statement by someone who runs a bar

2/25/2009 9:18:18 AM

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"Benzodiazepines Equivalents to Valium (Diazepam) 60 mg 1. Alprazolam (Xanax) 6 mg 1. Valium = Dose x10 2. Chlordiazepoxide (Limbitrol) 150 mg 1. Valium = Dose x0.4 3. Clonazepam (Klonopin) 24 mg 1. Valium = Dose x2.5 4. Flurazepam (Dalmane) 90 mg 1. Valium = Dose x 0.6 5. Halazepam (Paxipam) 240 mg 1. Valium = Dose x0.25 6. Lorazepam (Ativan) 12 mg 1. Valium = Dose x5.0 7. Oxazepam (Serax) 60 mg 1. Valium = Dose x1.0 8. Temazepam (Restoril) 60 mg 1. Valium = Dose x1.0"

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"This is wrong or, in wikipedia terms, [citation needed]"

http://www.fpnotebook.com/Psych/CD/BnzdzpnEqvlnts.htm

Though the exact equivalence figures vary, this table seems to generally agree with the Wikipedia table I linked as the relationships are similar. The Wikipedia table seems to explore the relationship between lower doses while Family Practice Notebook's table explores higher doses so I would guess that the dose/response curves differ, i.e. some are more/less effective per dose at lower doses.

2/25/2009 11:40:56 AM

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"interesting statement by someone who runs a bar "

ha ha, sick burn

2/25/2009 11:41:43 AM

set up the set up

2/25/2009 11:43:41 AM

oh look a stripper on pills

2/25/2009 11:47:53 AM