http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4087941

but will it affect his eligibility next year for Butchie?

4/22/2009 12:33:47 PM

except that he has already exhausted his eligibility

4/22/2009 12:39:29 PM

except that he has already exhausted his eligibility

4/22/2009 12:45:49 PM

except that he has already exhausted his eligibility

4/22/2009 12:48:53 PM

They shouldn't even test for this.

4/22/2009 12:49:21 PM

Why not? Almost every other job worth having requires an initial drug test. I imagine it's more of a retard/mild self discipline test than it is the employer really caring if you smoke pot in your free time. If you can't stop smoking pot for a month prior to a test you know is coming, how stupid/undisciplined are you?

4/22/2009 12:52:21 PM

Should it affect his eligibility if he had any left? I don't think so.

4/22/2009 12:55:23 PM

My employer does not drug test employees. We do ok.

But more to the point, while I don't think it's generally useful for office workers, I can see why drug testing is done for athletes. Granted, why they test for pot is beyond me, since it has the opposite effect of a performance enhancer.

4/22/2009 12:56:31 PM

Smoking pot in college

Smoking pot before the biggest professional day of your life

4/22/2009 12:57:23 PM

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"They shouldn't even test for this."

4/22/2009 1:05:22 PM

^^^I didn't mean to imply that drug testing is a prerequisite for running a successful business, but it is a pretty widespread hiring practice, so it's not like the NFL is doing something outlandish here. The point is, if you're going to interview for the job you've been dreaming of your entire life and you know there will be a drug test, STOP FUCKING SMOKING POT FOR A MONTH YOU GODDAMN RETARD!

4/22/2009 1:09:07 PM

Its a predictor of what they will be like with the freedom & excesses that the $$$ and NFL bring.

If you cant even pass the blunt for 1 month before the combine, then what will you be doing in the NFL?

4/22/2009 1:09:39 PM

no doubt.

4/22/2009 1:11:06 PM

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"Granted, why they test for pot is beyond me, since it has the opposite effect of a performance enhancer."

shouldn't an employer know whether their potential employee is taking something that will inhibit performance?

4/22/2009 1:20:12 PM

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"The point is, if you're going to interview for the job you've been dreaming of your entire life and you know there will be a drug test, STOP FUCKING SMOKING POT FOR A MONTH YOU GODDAMN RETARD!"

true, it's quite a dumbass move. but they shouldn't be testing for pot in the first place.

4/22/2009 1:27:09 PM

you still haven't said why you think they shouldn't be testing.

4/22/2009 1:29:08 PM

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"shouldn't an employer know whether their potential employee is taking something that will inhibit performance? "

4/22/2009 1:31:46 PM

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"shouldn't an employer know whether their potential employee is taking something that will inhibit performance?"

Unless you smoke before a game or practice, or smoke like a rastafarian, it's not going to inhibit performance.

4/22/2009 1:33:03 PM

that's the employers decision, not the employee.

4/22/2009 1:35:15 PM

What does a positive test tell you exactly?

aside from the negative stigma and urban legends widely associated with pot use....

4/22/2009 1:38:47 PM

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"Unless you smoke before a game or practice, or smoke like a rastafarian, it's not going to inhibit performance."

Yeah, but the Combine would seem to be a similar event to "a game or practice." And frankly, during the season, unless it's the bye week, there's no time to smoke that isn't "before a game or practice."

4/22/2009 1:41:09 PM

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"What does a positive test tell you exactly? "

I have no idea what it tells the league, or the team owners or whoever it is mandating the test, I'm not a part of that. But they are the ones doing the employing and I imagine they wouldn't care to test if it didn't benefit them overall in some way.

And for the record I'm a huge advocate for legalization, so don't lump me into the pot-hating crowd.

4/22/2009 1:45:01 PM

he's referring to pot specifically. check for stuff that might actually be bad. but I what I understand from Bullets comment is testing for pot is pretty retarded. It's not bad and doesn't give any side effects where it matters. If someone is a total pot head you're gonna be able to tell without a drug test

4/22/2009 1:49:43 PM

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"What does a positive test tell you exactly? "

It tells you there's something that athletes aren't supposed to be doing and they have chosen to do it anyways, at one of the worst possible times to do it when they're being scrutinized for every little thing, in a league where character issues have been a big deal in the last few years. It tells you they might not make the best decisions off the field if they're willing to risk it before their NFL careers have even started.

4/22/2009 1:50:41 PM

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"Yeah, but the Combine would seem to be a similar event to "a game or practice.""

I mean the day of. In this case, he might have smoked a month before the combine. Which, again I admit, was a completely dumb-ass move.

4/22/2009 1:51:13 PM

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" If someone is a total pot head you're gonna be able to tell without a drug test"

an easier way to tell is to give them the date of the test with plenty of time to take off from smoking and clear out your system and see if they follow through. Maybe the NFL doesn't give a shit if you smoke pot, they just want to see if you have enough control to stop yourself to pass one fucking test.

4/22/2009 1:52:22 PM

^if someone's a total pothead they're not going be trying out for the NFL in the first place.

[Edited on April 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM. Reason : VV I was waiting for that. ]

4/22/2009 1:55:15 PM

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"It tells you there's something that athletes aren't supposed to be doing and they have chosen to do it anyways, at one of the worst possible times to do it when they're being scrutinized for every little thing, in a league where character issues have been a big deal in the last few years. It tells you they might not make the best decisions off the field if they're willing to risk it before their NFL careers have even started."

Wow. Couldnt have said it better myself. No pity for him, whatsoever.

4/22/2009 1:56:25 PM

^^ Ricky Williams says hi.

4/22/2009 1:57:30 PM

^ i was about to post the same thing. You have to be some kind of idiot if you don't think at least 25% of NFL players smoke pot.

4/22/2009 2:03:45 PM

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"i was about to post the same thing. You have to be some kind of idiot if you don't think at least 25% of NFL players smoke pot."

Yes, but you have to be a total idiot to think smoking pot is the same as being a "total pothead". Right? I doubt Ricky's admiration for weed really affected his ability to play football.

[Edited on April 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM. Reason : (and as far as occasionaly, i'd guess the number is greater than 25%)]

4/22/2009 2:06:05 PM

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"shouldn't an employer know whether their potential employee is taking something that will inhibit performance?"

do they test for alcohol?

4/22/2009 2:11:19 PM

I know you're trying to be a smart ass, but yes. Employers also test for alcohol. It doesn't stay in your system very long so the only way you're going to come up positive is if you go to a planned test drunk, which would be ridiculously stupid, or you come into work drunk and they send you to go get a test.

Most of the time these tests aren't unprovoked. There is usually a good reason why you are sent to get one. When I broke a glass door with a forklift when I was working at home depot during my freshman year they sent me for a drug/alcohol screening.

[Edited on April 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2009 2:14:54 PM

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"Yes, but you have to be a total idiot to think smoking pot is the same as being a "total pothead"."

but that is the whole premise of this thread. He tested positive for pot whether it was from smoking once or everyday and he is being red flagged for it. When in reality he is still going to get drafted and make $texas and prolly go right back to smoking weed. so what was the whole point of testing him in the first place?

Now if you tested positive and you were sent packing then testing is serving some purpose but just labeling a player seems pointless to me when they are still gonna be allowed to play.

4/22/2009 2:16:47 PM

the point of this thread is to provide a fresh reason to degrade UNC, their players, and all those who are associated with that shithole. get back on topic. i'll begin...

hahahahaha fuck unc

4/22/2009 2:19:11 PM

Yeah, fuck UNC!

but in all seriousness, I'd feel the same way if this were an NC State player.

4/22/2009 2:20:16 PM

shit, some of that green that i have smoked actually makes me more motivated to go exercise or work out. crazy right? no, not really...it really depends on what you like to smoke. you'd be amazed at all the different strands with all types of characteristics.

[Edited on April 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM. Reason : i posted about this in the draft thread...surprised that didnt start any convo]

4/22/2009 3:26:14 PM

gunnz, we need to be friends IRL

4/22/2009 3:27:48 PM

haha, its all good man; anytime. im a little dry right now though

4/22/2009 3:31:27 PM

Would it be considered a Performance Enhancing Drug if its a O/D-Lineman trying to beef up???

4/22/2009 3:52:43 PM

he misunderstood what it meant to have 'higher' status for the draft.

4/22/2009 4:48:18 PM

wtf ESPN.

did anybody hear a few minutes ago on SportsCenter when they said NC State Wide Receiver Brandon Tate positive for marijuana?

the on screen graphics and all were right, but whichever guy was talking said NC State.

I swear, they say UNC when its good and they mean us, if it's bad for UNC they use NC State.

4/22/2009 6:34:50 PM

^if this is true then something is going on... no doubt about it

4/22/2009 6:36:16 PM

^^ i definitely heard it, and had a "did they really just say NC State" look. it had a video of him running down field, in his UNC uniform

4/22/2009 6:49:52 PM

^nothing those fuckheads say on ESPN surprises me anymore. Earlier this morning they were talking about the Canes game last night and one of the anchors said, "And the people in Charlotte were going crazy"


i was like.......wut?

4/22/2009 7:39:36 PM

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"If you can't stop smoking pot for a month prior to a test you know is coming, how stupid/undisciplined are you? "

this is the point to me. Its not like he doesn't know a drug test is coming.

4/22/2009 9:11:19 PM

same thing i said about raji

idiots

4/22/2009 9:13:57 PM

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"^nothing those fuckheads say on ESPN surprises me anymore. Earlier this morning they were talking about the Canes game last night and one of the anchors said, "And the people in Charlotte were going crazy" i was like.......wut? "

ESPN has fallen so far. Their quality now is atrocious. You couldn't keep count of the number of mistakes they make daily now. Just try and count the number of mistakes Mike Patrick makes by himself during a college bball broadcast. And he has kept his job for god knows how long.

4/22/2009 9:16:27 PM