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Pigskin posted an article about the all time passing records at State, and Jay Davis and Daniel Evans are posted on there several times, which begs the question:

Were they better than I remember, or is state weaker at the QB position historically than we'd like to admit?

Quote :

"Passing Yards in a Career 1. Philip Rivers - 13,484 (2000-03) 2. Jamie Barnette - 9,461 (96-99) 3. Terry Harvey - 5,925 (93-95) 4. Shane Montgomery - 5,298 (87-89) 5. Erik Kramer - 4,602 (85-86) 6. Dave Buckey - 4,286 (72-75) 7. Daniel Evans - 4,004 (05-08) 8. Tim Esposito - 3,873 (83-84) 9. Terry Jordan - 3,695 (89-92) 10. Jay Davis - 3,548 - (02-05)"

Quote :

"Completion Percentage for a Career 1. Philip Rivers - 63.6% (2000-03) 2. Terry Harvey - 60.1% (89-92) 3. Dave Buckey - 57.8% (72-75) 4. Jay Davis - 57.7% (02-05) 5. Tim Esposito 56.9% (83-84)"

4/25/2009 9:42:27 AM

i still hold true to my claim that Jay Davis could have been great if he had a decent O-Line

he was one of the best play-action QBs i've ever seen

4/25/2009 9:55:18 AM

Evans was terrible.

Jay Davis actually wasn't in the shitter as much

4/25/2009 9:59:52 AM

where are the INT stats....
Jay Davis completed more passes to the other team...

4/25/2009 10:00:19 AM

Jay Davis really wasn't that bad. To this day, I still say that people who kept wanting Marcus Stone to replace him have slight mental disabilities...at the least.

Daniel Evans was below average, but still better than anyone we had during his tenure except for Russel Wilson of course. He had decent accuracy, just not a lot of arm strength. And he could at least throw a decent jump ball and give our receivers a chance. People clamoring for Harrison Beck have the same mental deficiencies as the people who liked Stone.

Stone and Beck are two of the worst QBs in the history of the ACC.

4/25/2009 10:09:03 AM

More passing means more yards.
More short passes means higher completion percentage.

Nearly every QB at every school in the last 10 years is in up there in passing rankings. It's not like Evans was better than Roman Gabriel...

4/25/2009 10:34:34 AM

i would rank our last 4 QB's in order from "decent to awful as shit" as..........

Davis>Evans>Stone> Beck

4/25/2009 11:23:11 AM

1. Davis
2. Evans
3. Beck
4. Stone

4/25/2009 11:57:57 AM

I think we can all appreciate Beck's ability to grip it and rip it

4/25/2009 12:30:09 PM

i never understood the hate over davis

he was replacing an absolute legend and whenever he had time to throw (which wasn't very often since our line was god awful) he wasnt bad at all

but he played awful against ohio state and people thought stone was the second coming of football jesus

4/25/2009 12:57:46 PM

Jay Davis was like Jake Delhomme if every game was vs. the Cardinals in the playoffs

4/25/2009 1:02:37 PM

i wish they kept stats for bounced screen passes, b/c Jay Davis had approximately 8 million of them

4/25/2009 1:17:02 PM

Passing yardage is a pretty dumb way to rank QBs

Poster Child

Signal Caller

Senior Season

NCAA History

2-Time

Passer Efficiency Rating

3 separates seasons

note-worthy


[Edited on April 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM. Reason : ]

4/25/2009 2:27:48 PM

Quote :

"is state weaker at the QB position historically than we'd like to admit"

Yes.


/thread.

4/25/2009 2:30:28 PM

Quote :

"Jay Davis/Daniel Evans: Better than I remember???"

No.

/thread.

4/25/2009 2:32:12 PM

Davis probably isn't better than you remember, but he's better than a lot of people gave him credit for.

4/25/2009 2:33:34 PM

My nigga dont pass
He just fall on his ass
He wont throw the rock away
Jay Davis, Jay Davis

4/25/2009 2:44:53 PM

russell wilson should bump davis off that list in about 7 games

4/25/2009 4:03:41 PM

pretty sure he already has

4/25/2009 4:08:52 PM

Jay Davis wasn't bad at all IMO.

4/25/2009 5:51:16 PM

Davis had the same pedigree as Rivers...grew up around football, dad was a HS coach. And yet he looked a lot more comfortable wearing his ball cap on the sideline calling in plays than he did directing them on the field. He has the physical talents but he didn't have it between the ears.

4/25/2009 6:09:20 PM

Quote :

"He has the physical talents but he didn't have it between the ears."

? I think it was the other way around. Jay's arm wasn't much stronger than Daniel Evans. If Evans or Davis would have had the cannon that Beck and Stone did, they could have been good QBs.

1. Davis 2. Evans...............3A. Stone 3B. Beck

4/26/2009 10:44:11 PM

Daniel Evans would rank in the top 10 all time in passing yards at Notre Dame too.

Pass heavy offense is still a relatively new concept.

4/27/2009 7:29:03 AM

Quote :

"Davis had the same pedigree as Rivers...grew up around football, dad was a HS coach. And yet he looked a lot more comfortable wearing his ball cap on the sideline calling in plays than he did directing them on the field. He has the physical talents but he didn't have it between the ears."

This is exactly how I remember Davis. He was the QB for the majority of my days at NCSU and the thing I remember most is that he always seemed to throw a costly interception that was just a terrible throw. He did make some plays and was a decent QB, but could never close a game.

4/27/2009 8:15:47 AM

Eh, Davis was pretty bad.

After watching him noodle-arm passes over the middle and getting his receivers nearly killed, I wouldn't say he was a good QB by any means.

Quote :

"4. Jay Davis - 57.7% (02-05)"

Two words: Bubble screen

[Edited on April 27, 2009 at 9:25 AM. Reason : ]

4/27/2009 9:24:55 AM

MAZZWNED!

4/27/2009 9:49:25 AM

I'll also add that Jay Davis had the #1 defense in the nation, so he got a lot of opportunities to throw the ball.

First team in NCAA history to lead the nation in defense and not make a bowl what what?

4/27/2009 1:04:31 PM

he also had the worst offensive line in the country

4/27/2009 1:20:19 PM

Quote :

"Passing yardage is a pretty dumb way to rank QBs"

Agreed. The first thing that came to my mind with respect to the passing yards in a career was - how was our running game during their tenure? If it sucked it would make sense that we'd stick to the air and pad the passing yard stat.

4/27/2009 1:40:47 PM

^ Not to mention Mazzone loved 3rd and 17's, so we were always having to pass.

4/27/2009 1:50:29 PM