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"Openly gay teen voted prom queen at LA high school Thursday, May 28, 2009 (05-28) 09:45 PDT Los Angeles, CA (AP) -- An openly gay teen was voted prom queen at Los Angeles' Fairfax High School in a campaign that began as a stunt but ended up spurring discussion on the campus about gender roles and teen popularity. Sergio Garcia, 18, was crowned queen Saturday night at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel. "I feel invincible," Garcia said in his tiara and charcoal-gray tuxedo. A few days earlier, he gave a speech that won over some cynics and led to an ovation and his unlikely victory. "At one time, prom may have been a big popularity contest where the best-looking guy or girl were crowned king and queen. Things have changed and it's no longer just about who has the most friends or who wears the coolest clothes," Garcia told a gymnasium full of seniors. "I'm not your typical prom queen candidate. There's more to me than meets the eye." Garcia assured the crowd he wouldn't wear a dress on prom night. "I will be wearing a suit," he said. "But don't be fooled, deep down I am a queen." The school, which sits at the end of the rows of chic shops on Melrose Avenue and was once attended by members of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, has long been a haven for students who would be considered outcasts at many schools. Garcia said he saw fliers advertising the prom and the election, and they didn't specify that the queen must be a girl. He thought the role would suit him better than prom king. "I don't wish to be a girl," he told the Los Angeles Times. said. "I just wish to be myself." Senior class president Vanessa Lo said she and many other students were initially against the idea but were won over by Garcia's speech and became convinced he wasn't just an attention-seeking clown. "It just goes to show how open-minded our class is," Lo said. Seventeen-year-old Unique Payne called the speech "great" and said she voted for Garcia "because I support the gay community." Other students weren't as happy, and suggested many voted for Garcia just to see the spectacle of two boys dancing together at the prom. "I'm not really happy about that," said 17-year-old Juan Espinoza. "He should've run for prom king." ___ Information from: Los Angeles Times, http://www.latimes.com"

Come to me when some lesbian gets elected prom king....

5/29/2009 7:03:53 AM

5/29/2009 7:12:12 AM

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"Unique Payne"

5/29/2009 7:33:19 AM

whoop de doo

5/29/2009 7:43:04 AM

gay

5/29/2009 7:52:50 AM

^yes, yes he is

5/29/2009 7:55:58 AM

~

5/29/2009 8:03:00 AM

Why did they report that he's gay? What has that got to do with anything?
To qualify for being "queen", you should simply be a femme, whether or not you're gay, and whether or not you're female.

5/29/2009 8:10:02 AM

Incorrect. To be a queen you need a VAGINA.

5/29/2009 8:25:01 AM

5/29/2009 8:28:46 AM

^ exactly what i was thinking

5/29/2009 8:31:15 AM

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"Incorrect. To be a queen you need a VAGINA."

I'm not talking monarchs, I'm talking about prom queen.
Gender has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality or biological sex.

5/29/2009 8:38:42 AM

Okay, I'll rephrase

To be a prom queen you need a VAGINA

AND

voting students that aren't fucking retards

OR

rules to prevent this kind of retardation. Both of which are extremely unlikely in Los Angeles.

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:03 AM. Reason : *]

5/29/2009 9:02:56 AM

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"To be a prom queen you need a VAGINA"

So, should someone like Buck Angel qualify for queen? I think not. Having a vagina doesn't determine your gender.

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"this kind of retardation"

What kind of "retardation"? Perhaps it may shock you, but today's youth have begun to move past the gender-sexism of the past -- that you seem to still be stuck in.

5/29/2009 9:14:39 AM

This is complete bullshit. Only in California would this kind of crap happen. Those kids have been brainwashed to accept every liberal idea that comes there way. What about the prom king? Is he going to have to have his prom king/queen dance with a fairy? If I were him or his parents I would be highly upset.

and....

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"Gender has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality or biological sex. "

This makes absolutely no sense at all to me. So I'm not necessarily a male because I have a penis? And my girlfriend has a vagina, but she really could be a guy? What??

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .]

5/29/2009 9:19:50 AM

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"Los Angeles, CA"

I thought miss Cali said she didnt like this type of stuff

5/29/2009 9:21:22 AM

YES WE CAN

5/29/2009 9:22:35 AM

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"This is complete bullshit"

Yes, but only because they think Garcia's sexual orientation is relevant.

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"Only in California would this kind of crap happen. Those kids have been brainwashed to accept every liberal idea that comes there way."

Since when is reality a liberal idea? I guess social conservatives **cough cough bigots cough** are adept at holding complete falsehoods to be true....

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"What about the prom king? Is he going to have to have his prom king/queen dance with a fairy?"

Who's to say the prom king is a biological male? Besides, what does it matter? -- it's only a dance....

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"If I were him or his parents I would be highly upset"

Because you're a no good bigot.

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"This makes absolutely no sense at all to me. So I'm not necessarily a male because I have a penis? And my girlfriend has a vagina, but she really could be a guy? What??"

Yes, biological sex is independent of gender. If it makes no sense to you, perhaps you should educate yourself before spewing a bunch of bigoted hate. Oh wait, you think that education is "brainwashing". Well, perhaps you're a hopeless bigot, then.

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"I thought miss Cali said she didnt like this type of stuff"

Actually, she was talking about homosexuality -- more specifically, marriage of homosexuals.
This prom issue has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Although, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that she doesn't like it.

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:36 AM. Reason : ]

5/29/2009 9:31:37 AM

You guys are reading way to into this.



This is the ultimate class prank to try and get two dudes to dance with one another.

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:38 AM. Reason : End of story.]

5/29/2009 9:38:28 AM

^^ You must be a faggot

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:39 AM. Reason : .]

5/29/2009 9:39:01 AM

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"You must be a faggot"

Why? Because I speak truth you don't like hearing? Real mature there, buddy -- your parents must be proud.
(lol.... Is there an equivalent of Godwin's Law for people who resort to, "OH YEAH, WELL YOU'RE GAY!"?)

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:44 AM. Reason : ]

5/29/2009 9:40:50 AM

willy nilly is srs y'all

5/29/2009 9:42:09 AM

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"Why? Because I speak truth stuff you don't like hearing? Real mature there, buddy -- your parents must be proud."

There, fixed it for you.

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:43 AM. Reason : -]

5/29/2009 9:43:36 AM

well i was kidding but while your talking out of your ass



gay prom queen has EVERYTHING to do with HOMOSEXUALITY, you fucking idiot.



what do you think that fag is gonna do after it wins prom queen, it will want to get married

5/29/2009 9:45:36 AM

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"There, fixed it for you"

Why don't you think it's the truth? Would you rather believe your bigoted family or religious group than objective science?
Some of you people are truly hopeless, I guess. Pretty sad, really.

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"gay prom queen has EVERYTHING to do with HOMOSEXUALITY, you fucking idiot"

Only because they reported the part about him being gay. That isn't relevant. I'm sure there have been gay prom queens and kings before. This story has to do with gender and biological sex, and only because the author of the story, and presumably the intended audience, incorrectly assumes that homosexuality is relevant, is the issue of homosexuality even mentioned. It is a common misconception that very effeminate biological males are necessarily gay, and that's apparently why they thought Garcia's sexuality matters, when it doesn't.

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"what do you think that fag is gonna do after it wins prom queen, it will want to get married"

So what?

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM. Reason : ]

5/29/2009 9:52:08 AM

5/29/2009 9:54:37 AM

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"So what?"

so then you would agree with my first post.

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"I thought miss Cali said she didnt like this type of stuff"

[Edited on May 29, 2009 at 9:57 AM. Reason : lol]

5/29/2009 9:56:37 AM

Let's face it...This is probably just some Pirate Captain type shit. The kids in the school just wanted to rock the boat a little.

5/29/2009 9:57:37 AM

meh your more than likely right. but its still fucking stupid

5/29/2009 9:59:37 AM

seems like ive heard of this same thing happening multiple times in the past few years. not sure why this specific one is such a big story.

5/29/2009 10:01:43 AM

aha, the pirate captain.

i just figure when they call someone a prom queen, they are probably using the term queen because of the definition of queen which deals with a female. only definition that includes effeminate men is a derogatory one.

5/29/2009 10:06:44 AM

wasn't this an episode of saved by the bell

5/29/2009 10:11:57 AM

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"It is a common misconception that very effeminate biological males are necessarily gay, "

So, if we're separating gender and biological sex, and add in a sexual orientation component, does this mean that:

effeminate biological males who like other manly biological men are straight
effeminate biological males who like feminine biological women are lesbians
effeminate biological males who like other effeminate men are lesbians
effeminate biological males who like butch lesbians are straight

I think what we need is a matrix.

5/29/2009 10:52:41 AM

^
I think that's the crux of the gay shemale thread: message_topic.aspx?topic=567361

I'm not sure, but I would say that sexuality is denoted by biological sex.... So:

effeminate biological males who like other manly biological men are gay
effeminate biological males who like feminine biological women are straight
effeminate biological males who like other effeminate men are gay
effeminate biological males who like butch lesbians are straight

In other words, if a biological male is very effeminate, they may identify as a [gender] female, but that doesn't make them a [biological] female. (I contend that gender is a range, not an absolute.)

5/29/2009 11:00:07 AM

this is fucking retarded...

5/29/2009 11:02:16 AM

seriously, if people would just stop changing the definition of words to fit their agenda half of these arguments would not exist. Women are prom queens, men are prom kings. Why didn't the gay guy run for prom KING if he wanted to win? (I do think this was just a big prank though, as others have mentioned.)

5/29/2009 11:15:17 AM

lulz...When did Willy Nilly become the spokesperson for all these groups of people? They'd probably be like "HE DON'T KNOW ME."

5/29/2009 11:19:50 AM

this is funny if yo udont agree youre gay

5/29/2009 11:22:17 AM

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"[biological] Women are prom queens, [biological] men are prom kings"

So, should someone like Buck Angel be a prom queen? According to you that's proper.....

And people aren't "changing the definition of words to fit their agenda" -- they're changing the definition of words to fit reality. (...as happens with many words, because words are mere symbols and are often inadequate purveyors of truth.)

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"When did Willy Nilly become the spokesperson for all these groups"

I'm not. I'm the spokesperson for truth, regardless of the issue.

5/29/2009 11:22:30 AM

Why is this even newsworthy son?

Who cares?

5/29/2009 11:40:27 AM

^

5/29/2009 11:40:54 AM

5/29/2009 12:31:23 PM

It's the gay dude from all of the films where he plays a gay dude.

Like Con Air son. Vince Larkin son, but this dude isn't him son.

5/29/2009 12:32:33 PM

I only agree with this decision if they played the gayest song possible right after the announcement... like Never Gonna Give You Up

5/29/2009 12:41:09 PM

well that's just gay.

5/29/2009 12:41:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU

5/29/2009 1:24:13 PM

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""I feel invincible," Garcia said in his tiara and charcoal-gray tuxedo."

LOL

5/29/2009 1:39:06 PM