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Someone please explain to me all the hype over this game.

The only thing I've seen/heard is Kiffin saying at his first news conference as Vols coach that he;s looking forward to beating Florida. That is exactly what I would want my new head coach to say. Whoever our next basketball coach is after Sid finally gets the boot better come right out and say "UNC, we're coming for you."

Urban Meyer is too experienced to let this get to him. All this talk about "should the Gators run up the score" is absolutely ridiculous. It should be a blowout without even trying, and all this media hype over Kiffin's words is superfluous.

9/17/2009 6:35:24 PM

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did you somehow miss all that talk about kiffin accusing meyer of cheating by recruiting violations?

9/17/2009 6:38:41 PM

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Basically Kiffin has talked a lot of shit since being named coach...for better or for worse...he's made cracks about a lot of SEC schools, and its seemed to fire up the fanbase, which they needed after a bad year last year...but calling out a team like Florida, who could hang 50 points on probably anybody in the country, is pretty foolish to me

9/17/2009 6:39:56 PM

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"Kiffin told fans Meyer violated rules by phoning receiver prospect Nu'Keese Richardson while he was on an official visit at Tennessee. The NCAA and SEC, though, say it's not a recruiting violation to contact recruits while they are on official visits to other schools.
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""I'm really looking forward to embracing some of the great traditions at the University of Tennessee, for instance the Vol Walk, running through the T, singing 'Rocky Top' all night long after we beat Florida next year," Kiffin said. "It will be a blast."

That quote was blown up and plastered all around Florida's training facility during the offseason
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o, and then theres the whole rivalry thing and florida being #1

9/17/2009 6:40:00 PM

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^ the second quote was a joke, and Kiffin said as much RIGHT after he said it, as in the next sentence, but everyone conveniently leaves that out when they play the clip... but not a huge deal, he did it to get the word out about TN and it worked with a really good recruiting class last year with only a month or so of work and maybe the top class this year (currently #3 on Scout, the most 5-stars).

9/17/2009 6:50:01 PM

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listen

lets get real

Kiffin has been needling at Urban Meyer in some form or fashion since he was hired. Whether it be the recruiting violation talk, or bragging that Nu'Keese Richardson picked UT over UF, or assembling a fucking POWERHOUSE recruiting staff.

Kiffin is doing his damndest to wrest the attention and spotlight away from Gainesville and take it to Rocky Top. He's already won recruiting battles against Florida, and they just had a pretty major haul the other weekend.

look at it this way-- Tebow is about to leave Florida. What happens then? In a few years Lane is going to have a full complement of horses to try and do some damage in the SEC. Who's to say that UT can't assemble a lights out team that dominates? Sweet fucking jesus, just with Monte Kiffin as defensive coordinator i'd be scared if I were in the SEC East.

so if I'm Urban Meyer, I want to fucking decimate Kiffin and make him look like a fool, and try and stop the hype that Kiffin is generating. Don't think for a second that Kiffin is being as bold as brass because he's an idiot--he's making sure that every high school football player in the country that watches SportsCenter knows his name.

so yeah, Florida is probably going to go to town on them, but in the end Kiffin is just going to spin it as potential revenge hype to recruits and then gloat about it in the offseason.

9/17/2009 6:50:10 PM

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^ exactly... I expect a complete slaughter this year, especially with Crompton's retarded ass... I really think we would have a better chance if we punted on 1st down every time.

9/17/2009 6:53:18 PM

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Crompton's got one of the coolest last names in college football though, I have to give him his props on that

9/17/2009 6:54:58 PM

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I would give him props for jumping off a bridge into a river of lava; aside from that, worhtless

9/17/2009 6:55:56 PM

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Maybe we should trade for Louisville's qb.

9/17/2009 6:57:54 PM

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There is no starting BCS conference starting QB that I wouldnt take over Crompton. NONE.

9/17/2009 7:02:03 PM

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Cody Hawkins

9/17/2009 7:04:00 PM

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you'd take paulus?

9/17/2009 7:04:16 PM

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Would take them both. Crompton threw INTs on three straight possessions. THREE STRAIGHT.

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"Game of the Week

Tennessee (1-1) at Florida (2-0), 3:30 EST, Saturday, September 19, CBS

Why to watch: There are games that test the character of a young head coach and a program looking to rebuild, and they don’t come more challenging than this one will be for Tennessee. Ever since Lane Kiffin took over the sleeping superpower he has done a great job of poking the 400 pound gorilla in the room. Urban Meyer’s team might be the unquestioned No. 1, but Kiffin and Tennessee have managed to annoy the kings of the college football world with brashness, bluster, and accusations while doing everything possible to pick a fight.

Kiffin accused Florida of ticky-tack recruiting violations, he bragged in his first press conference that his team would be singing Rocky Top all night long after they beat Florida, and he has taken every opportunity to make jabs at Meyer and Florida. Now he needs to find a way to get his offense moving after an ugly 19-15 home loss to a severely-challenged UCLA. It’s going to take a little while for Tennessee to become Tennessee again, but the recruiting has been strong and there’s an excellent defense in place to quickly change the momentum around if the offensive attack can be a little more productive. However, Florida, Meyer, Tim Tebow, and the Gator Nation are going to bring the A+ game in an attempt to squash the annoyance, at least for the time being.

It’s not like Florida wouldn’t be trying if the Kiffin factor wasn’t involved. The Gators are openly trying to come up with an all-timer statement of a season, and Kiffin or not, this is Tennessee week. Tebow could switch sides and be the Vols head coach and Florida would still want to win by 50. But it’s not like Tennessee is going to lie down and let Florida provide the beating. This isn’t a bad Tennessee team and it has just enough talent on each side of the ball to keep this from being a coronation. There’s another side that isn’t being brought up: what if the Vols win? Crazy things have happened in the series (most notably the Tennessee win in Gainesville at the end of the 2001 regular season despite being an 18-point underdog), but a Vol win this season would be an all-timer. No matter what happens, for both programs, both fan bases, both coaches, and the SEC, it’s game on.

Why Tennessee might win: The pressure is completely and totally on Florida. It’s not going to be enough to simply win the game; the Gators have to win in an ugly blowout. They’re supposed to be the No. 1 team in America, while Tennessee is struggling and sputtering. They’re supposed to be making a run for the short list of all-time great teams. They’re supposed to be all jacked up and hell-bent on teaching the new guy a lesson. But Tennessee plays a little defense. Even last year when everything was going into the tank, the defense kept games close. The longer this stays tight, if it’s close at all after the first few Gator possessions, the more the Vols can play loose. No one thinks Tennessee can win this game, and few think this will stay within four touchdowns. Considering the program is in rebuilding mode, any outcome outside of 100-0, along with a few deaths and dismemberments, won’t be that big a deal. Tennessee is about 2010 and beyond, and anything that happens this season is gravy. On the field, Florida, considering it leads the nation in total offense and scoring offense, hasn’t exactly been razor sharp (by the ridiculously high standard set for a team of this caliber). The pass rush has been shockingly mediocre, Tebow has misfired a bit too often, for him, and last week, Troy was able to hang around for a quarter. Tennessee’s D can keep this close, but …

Why Florida might win:… the offense is a whole other issue. After opening up the season with an onslaught of points and yards in the 63-7 win over Western Kentucky, there appeared to be hope that an immediate change had taken place. QB Jonathan Crompton threw five touchdown passes, the ground game rumbled for 380 yards and four scores, and all of a sudden, Tennessee looked like a living, breathing team again. And then came the UCLA debacle and Crompton couldn’t make anything happen, he threw three picks, and the running game was shut down gaining just 115 yards. Florida’s defense is better than UCLA’s, and in an emotional game like this one will be, a jacked up D can feed off the energy and provide the knockout blow early on. It’s not like the Gator defense went through the motions in the first two scrimmages, but it’s not like it was flying around with the extra bounce in its step that it had at the end of last year. This has looked like a defense, and a team (outside of the perpetually peppy Tebow), that had no interest in doing anything more than win the first two games easily before moving on. This is the game that Florida has been waiting for, and this is when the real No. 1 team in the land might be unleashed. The offense might have problems at times, but the defense and special teams should be able to make up for it.

Who to watch: Note to the new Tennessee coaching staff: No. 25. Do NOT let him have the ball. Lost in the seemingly easy 30-6 Florida win over the Vols last year was how the offense was mediocre. Tebow was fine, but hardly special, the passing game didn’t click, and the running game struggled for long stretches. However, Brandon James made the game a rout with two punt returns for 92 yards and a score and three kickoffs for 82 yards. It’s not like this came out of the blue, he returned three punts for 91 yards and a touchdown against the Vols in 2007, while adding four kickoff returns for 102 yards, and he exploded as a freshman averaging 16.25 yards per punt return in the 21-20 Gator win. He has been bottled up so far this year on punt returns, but he came up with an 85-yard kickoff return for a score against Charleston Southern. Tennessee will have enough problems on offense and defense; it can’t get clobbered on special teams, too.
What will happen: This will be tighter than Florida fans might like … for a quarter. The Vol defense will do its part, but the offense will be too inept allowing Tebow and the Gator offense too many short fields and too many chances. The final score will be a blowout, but Florida will be in for a battle. Tennessee and Kiffin don’t do anything quietly; they’ll show up. "


The part I bolded is EXACTLY why it will be a blow out, Crompton/the offense will set them up at least twice for easy points or even outright returns for TDs. Thats 14 points there.

[Edited on September 17, 2009 at 7:07 PM. Reason : d]

9/17/2009 7:05:27 PM

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Hawkins is 5 foot 10, has a worse arm than Scott Smalls and is only starting due to the worst instance of Nepotism since JFK made Robert the Attorney General

9/17/2009 7:07:30 PM

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Crompton cant use a spoon. He eats chalk. He's a fucking moron.

9/17/2009 7:09:50 PM

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Burke transferred because he coudln't compete with, stone, evans or beck.

9/17/2009 7:14:16 PM

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So it seems like most of you agree that Kiffin knew exactly what he was doing, that this will still be a Gator blowout, but Kiffin will benefit int he offseason.

So why is every person on ESPN (Jim Rome, Around the Horn guys, PTI guys, Sports Center) calling him an idiot?

9/17/2009 7:16:04 PM

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^cause he talked smack about how he was gonna win, but Florida is gonna stomp em and chomp em

9/17/2009 7:18:35 PM

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i love ESPN as much as the next guy

but i'll be damned if I take any opinions from Bob Ryan or Kevin Blackistone (that CANT be his real name)

9/17/2009 7:28:36 PM

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^^^ I have heard a few that get it...

9/17/2009 7:36:20 PM

bdmazur
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Woody Page was the only one I remember saying there was nothing wrong with Kiffin's comments

9/17/2009 8:12:02 PM

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UT is going to get BLOWED out.

9/17/2009 8:12:30 PM

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NOT SO FAST my friend, this one will be closer than the experts think

9/18/2009 10:47:56 AM

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"So why is every person on ESPN (Jim Rome, Around the Horn guys, PTI guys, Sports Center) calling him an idiot?"


Judging from his radio show, I always got the impression Rome was a big Kiffin fan and thinks that he's doing a good job of hyping up the program, getting them exposure they don't necessarily deserve, etc.... but he just thinks that Florida is going to murder them this weekend.

9/18/2009 10:51:38 AM

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I'm going to guess, at least a 3 TD win for UF. Not sure why this is the game of the week, I get the SEC and rivalry factor, but this match-up isn't even close.

9/18/2009 11:07:50 AM

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because they cant hype the game itself because it will be a blow out, but the grudge match/Kiffin factor will be huge


They got it on PTI today... Bob Ryan nailed it.

[Edited on September 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM. Reason : d]

9/18/2009 5:08:59 PM

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Gooooo Gators!!! Jus sayin....

9/18/2009 9:44:03 PM

bdmazur
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I will be cheering for Rocky Top, though I know its lost cause.

What can I say, the Wolfpack turned me into a perpetual underdog fan.

9/18/2009 11:25:47 PM

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So according to Urban, Florida players weren't feeling good and they played it conservative against Tennessee.

This gets a big from me.

9/22/2009 1:49:39 AM

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^yeah, i read that shit too, what a joke. Monte fucked his shit up.......made Tebow look average

9/22/2009 1:59:18 AM

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teh whole UF team got flu shots

9/22/2009 2:01:22 AM

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loved Kiffin's response though

9/22/2009 2:02:02 AM

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^^Are you actually defending Meyer by saying that they struggled with Tennessee because of a little sickness?

EVERY school has this going on. Us and UNC have players out with the flu. Big deal its a part of life.

Urban got out coached Saturday I don't care what anyone says. If UT had a decent QB they win.

9/22/2009 2:25:52 AM

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yeah, I LOVED Kiffin's response hahaha.

http://www.volunteertv.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4146418&flvUri=&thirdpartymrssurl=
loving this man as a coach more and more


And Meyer is SO full of shit, if he was really "holding back" and not really trying he wouldnt have thrown the franchise of all franchise players ever out there over and over and over again to get the shit beat out of him. If they truly backed off he would have protected Tebow, they had to do every single thing they could, including using the fuck out of the maybe the best college QB ever because everything else was shutdown. He is a fucking cunt for this lame, childish shit.

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM. Reason : f]

9/22/2009 2:33:58 AM

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is that your objective opinion?


9/22/2009 7:50:25 AM

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Right is right. I think Urban Meyer has been showing his ass ever since he allowed himself to get drawn into this whole mess.

9/22/2009 8:21:52 AM

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Kiffin is the biggest fucking douche. I'm sure SOME people will think I'm trolling, but this guy is a total joke. He'll do fine at UT because he has no regard for rules but jeez...

9/22/2009 8:50:34 AM

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^4 That video isn't loading, but I remember that his response at the end of the game was pretty fantastic. He wouldn't give the reporter and inch on "being happy that they were just able to compete." Kiffin was quite clear that he was proud of how hard his kids played, but would not be happy until they beat Florida.

It was very nice to see a coach mix in coach-speak and non-coach-speak effectively.

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 9:04 AM. Reason : .]

9/22/2009 9:04:05 AM

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"maybe the best college QB ever"


lolololo

9/22/2009 9:10:33 AM

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Florida did get conservative at the end, as most teams do with a 3 score lead. That isn't why the game wasn't a blowout.

Kiffin and Meyer are both wrong.

9/22/2009 9:13:23 AM

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^^ ??

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Asked about Meyer’s comments, Kiffin chose his words carefully:

“I’d say this. This offseason the (SEC) commissioner (Mike Slive) made a big deal about our renewal of vows about what we’re supposed to say about other teams, other coaches, other players.

“Obviously, Urban feels he doesn’t need to follow that. I won’t say anything else.’’

Meyer said a flu outbreak among several key players adversely affected Florida’s performance against UT.

Asked if he was concerned about flu striking Tennessee, Kiffin said:

“I don’t know. I guess we’ll wait and see, and after we’re not excited about our performance, we’ll tell you that everybody was sick.’’ - HHAHAHA

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"Kiffin is the biggest fucking douche. I'm sure SOME people will think I'm trolling, but this guy is a total joke. He'll do fine at UT because he has no regard for rules but jeez..."

yeah, you are trolling, what rules has he broken? (and dont give me that secondary violation bullshit, every school does that, hell, Ohio State has done it something like 50 times in the last 3 years), he turned around a dormant program, got a top 10 recruiting class last year with basically a month to work on it, and has a top 3 class already this year, assembled an amazing coaching staff, and with a one dimensional team with Simple Jack at QB played a close game with a team that a lot of people were calling among the greatest ever (with the greatest QB ever) prior to the season starting.

But he is a douche if you are on the other side

9/22/2009 10:20:04 AM

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^ How many wins do recruiting rankings earn you? I keep forgetting.

He has no wins against BCS schools. Why don't you wait till he actually does something to back up his classless mouth.

And he is a douche. He acts like a spoiled child.

9/22/2009 11:18:27 AM

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dumbass. You have to have talent to win games... lack of talent is the reason they lost to Florida.

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason : d]

9/22/2009 11:21:26 AM

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Yeah

Kiffin is picking a fight just to keep his name up there with Urban Meyer. Its pretty obvious its all to get exposure and talk going about his program. To get excitement back up for the the Vols and to spawn/grow a rivalry. All of this helps recruiting and does nothing but helps him.

/obvious

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : *]

9/22/2009 11:27:21 AM

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I (and the trolls) are doing our part on TWW

hahaha

9/22/2009 11:32:54 AM

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I think the point everyone on here is making is that Kiffin hasn't done anything meaningful so far except run his mouth.

But keep being objective UT fans.

9/22/2009 11:51:00 AM

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aside from get a good recruiting class, the #1 overall prospect, stealing 3 big time recruits from our rivals, and playing the "greatest team of all time" much closer than anyone thought (and might have won with a serviceable QB, WOULD have won in my opinion), assembled a great coaching staff... so yeah, aside from all that...

9/22/2009 11:55:42 AM

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Mets were predicted to be World Series champs this year! Paper championships are awesome!

Seriously though, no one is saying that he is not going to do a great job there... just calling him a douche. Does it really upset you that I (or random other person) don't like him?

9/22/2009 11:57:53 AM

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^^How many wins does all that earn you again? Oh, wait, I'm being the dumbass.

[Edited on September 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ^^]

9/22/2009 11:57:54 AM

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