quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
anyone ever done this? i picked up a new leatherman wave a few days ago and saw online that they offered a black oxide version...i don't care enough to try to find one locally or order online, but i was curious about the process and whether or not you could use it with something like a multi-tool that's put together already
also curious as to whether it's even worth the effort in terms of rust protection (i'm sure good oiling and care is much more effective in the long run, but every little bit helps, i would think) 9/28/2009 5:45:47 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
I've blued rifle barrels...nothing to it really. I've probably still got the chemicals around here somewhere. 9/28/2009 7:03:28 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ did you do hot or cold? did you just do steel (potassium nitrate and sodium hydroxide) or stainless steel (nitrates/chromates)? 9/28/2009 8:15:26 PM |
adam8778 All American 3095 Posts user info edit post |
My leatherman wave spent a year in the bottom of a jeep with no doors. it has some very light surface rust that comes off with a good scrubbing. i wouldnt worry too much about rust. 9/28/2009 8:45:37 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
eh, it's not worrying about it so much as general curiosity 9/28/2009 9:04:01 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
you are a fag BTW 9/28/2009 9:54:56 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ no worries, sugar, it happens to all guys and i'm mad at you for it 9/28/2009 10:08:33 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Only steel can be parked, not stainless. You're supposed to use a stainless tank because it *doesn't* react.
If we're talking about real parkerizing, which is not the same as bluing, then it is absolutely a hot process. Real bluing is also a hot process, but there are some less durable cold blue alternatives out there.
It's not terribly cheap and it's not easy to get set up, so if you just want to chem-coat something steel for protection, I would get some Brownells oxpho-blue or similar and oil the crap out of it with CLP when you're done. 9/30/2009 9:27:33 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
just plate it 10/19/2009 3:04:16 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
its stainless, leave it alone ? 10/19/2009 5:16:58 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
Even stainless will pit or rust in the presence of certain contaminants. Exposure to lots of carbon or even standard steels can lead to intergranular corrosion. What keeps stainless from oxidizing is the microthin layer of chromium oxide present. One reason many stainless steels are pickled and have a dull finish. 10/19/2009 9:50:13 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
or passivated, as we engrineers like to say, we use teflon lined stainless on our chlorate, chlorine, and methanol systems, and i have seen the stainless pipe eat away exposing the liner from external leaks on it in a matter of months
most strong acids and caustics, we just use plain old carbon, it holds up better, due to stress corrosion cracking at welds on stainless 10/19/2009 10:47:40 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
If the damn welders learned to minimize heat time, then localized stress cracks on stainless wouldn't be so much of an issue.
Yessir, passivating. Either using phosphoric acid, or the new "green" approach is to use citric acid, believe it or not. 10/19/2009 10:52:02 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
phosphoric works well on surface rust on carbon steel too, like after sandblasting, let it get moist, flash rust and spray, it forms a damn tough, inert primer 10/21/2009 10:07:59 AM |