Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Post here whenever North Carolina's own Congresswoman Virginia Foxx is making the news!
To get us started, here are a few fun favorites from this year:
Yep, she's a death paneler
Matthew Sheppard's murder was a hoax, said with his mother in the audience
You can read this story here. I actually feel a little sympathy for her here, I'm sure its annoying getting hounded by questions, even if the questioner is follows the rules on interaction with an elected official. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/14/793436/-Virginia-Foxx-calls-Capitol-Police-to-have-me-detained...-twice
That one was from this week, and got me thinking there needed to be a collection of Congresswoman Foxx's best moments. She represents district 5 which is the northwest end of the state with some Virginia & Tennessee borders, plenty of mountains, and 1 "big city" Winston. I take particular interest because she represents my hometown of Mt. Airy where I grew up.
There have to be more good Foxx News stories out there. 10/16/2009 11:39:12 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "By the way, we are going to have to--if you're very old--we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you, maybe, going for another couple of months. It's too expensive--so we're going to let you die." |
--Robert Reich, UC-Berkeley, September 26, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT7Y0TOBuG410/16/2009 12:05:38 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
^Do you have anything to offer on, you know, the topic? [/hooksaw] 10/16/2009 3:18:25 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
carzak you idiot, he's clearly on the topic of which, you, are nowhere near apparently.
1. Check the first video
2. Click his link.
3. Read.
4. Stop being a moron 10/16/2009 6:02:55 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I hate virginia foxx
My dad hates her also, because he has to deal with her sometimes being in local government in her district.
A friend of mine from my App grad school program was her personal driver when she's in the area. 10/16/2009 6:19:11 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Foxx believes or believed that the healthcare reform legislation included provisions for death panels.
This is Robert Reich's blog response to that clip of him curculating:
Quote : | "Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, Rush, and the right-wing blogosphere seem interested in a talk I gave in September, 2007 to students in a political science class here at Berkeley, in which I played the role of a presidential candidate so politically incorrect and tone-deaf as to pummel every sacred cow in sight -- including the notion that our society could afford and would continue forever to pay whatever amount of money was required to keep everyone alive forever. The whole point of the mock exercise was to show that presidential candidates can't state what everyone knows to be the truth because they'll be taken apart by the Right or the Left. I slew many other sacred cows in that mock exercise, some of which are held dearly by the Left. Nonetheless, two years later the Right has exhumed the lecture and taken my words completely out of context purportedly to show that Obama and the Democrats plan death panels.
If their desperation weren't so pathetic it would be funny. After all, they have proven the whole point of my lecture. UC Berkeley maintains an archive of webcasts and my speech is available there verbatim, should you wish to listen to it in its entirety." |
So, what the fuck does this have to do with what Virginia Foxx said?10/16/2009 7:28:42 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
i was hoping this thread had one more x in it and something to do with certain newsladies removing clothing... 10/22/2009 4:23:55 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
"I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."
We should be more afraid of a health care reform bill than terrorism, really? Fear-mongering FTL 11/2/2009 2:53:41 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
It pisses me off that I live in her district.
I am right on the border of the 12th District. As in my next door neighbor votes in the 12th. According to the map, my back yard is in the 12th and my front yard is in the 5th.
All of Winston should be in the fifth, anyways. The 12th is gerrymandered as crap. It'd water down all the yokel votes out west.
[Edited on November 2, 2009 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ] 11/2/2009 3:43:38 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Don't get pissed, work as hard as you can volunteering to get her unseated next year. 11/2/2009 3:48:01 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see why people get so outraged over "death panelers"
Saying that ObamaCare will create death panels is obviously a symbolic reference to the politically based rationing of healthcare that will occur in any government run healthcare system.
I guess its just partisanship on both sides of the aisle. Conservatives engage in garden-variety hyperbole while liberals stand aghast at the use of such a rhetorical device (until they use it to decry "torture panels" in gitmo )
sigh.... carry on.
[Edited on November 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM. Reason : s] 11/2/2009 4:03:27 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Well, except that that's not what the term was created to mean at all.
The term was created in reference a portion of the bill that pays for end-of-life counselling sessions. Things like "making a budget for retirement" and "crafting a will." You know, normal stuff one should do towards the end of their life.
It's not a reference to rationed care, it was just referenced in a paper that also argued against rationed care. If it was about rationed care, then people could have fairly easily pointed out private companies have the same setup, just look at yearly maximums (particularly on dental care) if you don't think that private health care is rationed. 11/2/2009 5:27:29 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
My point is that it's symbolic political rhetoric. Surprisingly, rhetorical devices used in political debates can be easily refuted if one chooses to ignore the larger issues to which they speak. 11/2/2009 5:53:44 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
The only way it is symbolic is how it shows the conservative base to be full of fear-mongers and idiots. 11/2/2009 7:13:59 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
No more so than "bush hates black people" or any oher liberal rhetoric 11/2/2009 7:51:53 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
What? I have no idea why you're defending death panelers, but you're making yourself look ridiculous trying. 11/2/2009 8:20:32 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not defending them so much as I am pointing fun at the histrionics that liberals put on display when confronted with republican rhetoric
it's almost as if they have no ability for objective thought and can't remember the overstated and unfactual accusations they made against bush for 8 years.... just scoring political points. General Betrayus... etc... Come on man seriously? It's all just a partisan game.
Pretty funny when people take it so seriously and act all, "OMG AWKWARD - I AM SO EMBARRASSED" when confronted with a little rhetoric from the opposing side
[Edited on November 2, 2009 at 8:26 PM. Reason : s] 11/2/2009 8:24:27 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
It may all look like a funny political game to you, but when the people making our laws are spreading irrational fears and misinformation, we should be concerned about it. 11/2/2009 11:26:42 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
LOL you must have just tuned into politics... Don't worry - your sense of crisis will lessen over the next couple of years as you see how nothing ever changes and both sides employ the same tactics 11/2/2009 11:37:49 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, I get it. You're just a cynic. That's great. Now I know to ignore you more often. 11/2/2009 11:50:58 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
It's not even cynicism. It's just attention whoring.
It's like going into Sports Talk to post about how much you dislike sports in general. 11/3/2009 8:14:23 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Well, football is gay. 11/3/2009 8:15:10 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Totally. After you've been around as long as I have, kids, you'll come to realize this. 11/3/2009 8:17:18 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
Here is this thread:
Foxx She sucks No she doesn't Everybody sucks Football is gay 11/3/2009 8:31:22 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I love politics. I probably follow politics more closely than you guys do. Its interesting that you bring up sports, because I don't particularly like sports and have always considered politics to be my flavor of sports. I'm buying a six pack of beer and a bag of doritos to watch the election results tonight
I understand the game of politics. I can see beyond the surface-level "OMFG DEMONIZE THAT GUY" propaganda of the hour (from both sides). Its not my fault that you guys allow yourselves to be manipulated by conservative or liberal talking points.
Anyway, carry on flipping the fuck out because some republican is using political rhetoric. 11/3/2009 8:51:18 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
I'm guessing al-qaedites and talibanners are in favor of us letting the gov't take over the health-care system and adding another $1.2 trillion to our already blown-up debt. Why would they be against us screwing up our own deal?
There's more than one way to destroy the infidels. Why not let them do it to themselves?
[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM. Reason : .] 11/3/2009 10:57:11 AM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/03/gop-congresswoman-says-health-care-bill-scarier-than-terrorism-2/#more-75969 11/3/2009 10:57:15 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love politics. I probably follow politics more closely than you guys do. Its interesting that you bring up sports, because I don't particularly like sports and have always considered politics to be my flavor of sports. I'm buying a six pack of beer and a bag of doritos to watch the election results tonight
I understand the game of politics. I can see beyond the surface-level "OMFG DEMONIZE THAT GUY" propaganda of the hour (from both sides). Its not my fault that you guys allow yourselves to be manipulated by conservative or liberal talking points.
Anyway, carry on flipping the fuck out because some republican is using political rhetoric. " |
I don't think you understand what carzak is saying.
It doesn't take a genius to recognize political rhetoric. Obviously the people who devised the term "death panel" know what they are doing. The problem though is that while it doesn't take a genius to see this, the average person (and plenty congresspeople) is well below the threshold of experience or intelligence to realize what is going on, and this type of rhetoric is very harmful to worthwhile political growth.
If the public face of politics, that some people are actually taking seriously, is an orchestrated game of name-calling, it's going to make getting anything done harder.
It's irrelevant that this is "business as usual" because it shouldn't be business as usual.
And you are wrong to imply that both sides are equally to blame, for many reasons, but the most clear demonstration of this is that there is no leftist equivalent of Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/Malkin to spread the ridiculous rhetoric. There was broad denouncement of the "General Betrayus" comments among the left too, but you are hard pressed to get a republican politician to decry anything Beck says.11/3/2009 11:08:34 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
there was no broad denouncement of general betrayus and there certainly wasn't broad denouncement of murtha's slander with respect to the Kaditha incident
how about clarence thomas? no broad denouncement of that
OK look - you're acting as though Saul Alinsky wasn't a liberal... He wrote the manual followed by liberals for the past 40 years. Don't pretend that liberals don't demonize or that this is somehow a republican only tactic. Ugh god.. you partisans 11/3/2009 12:17:40 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Even if liberals were equally guilty of the same tactics in the past (which I don't agree with), the GOP attack machine is and has been in full force since before the election. And that is mainly why they are currently being focused on.
Quote : | "Ugh god.. you partisans " |
I have yet to see you do anything other than defend the right and attack the left. You even claimed once that you are right leaning. So stop pretending to be above partisanship.11/3/2009 1:30:10 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
He's Mr. Independent. Like Lou Dobbs. 11/3/2009 1:32:22 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Treetwista II 11/3/2009 1:45:43 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I define partisan as "devoid of reason"
When you argue that liberals don't demonize and attack their opponents, that qualifies you as a partisan.
I'm right leaning... I'm not neutral by any means. The difference between me and you is that I am aware of and can acknowledge the faults in the conservative side. I also understand the game (yes its a game) that is being played by both sides. That puts me at a much higher plane of political consciousness than your dailykos reading butt
[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 1:52 PM. Reason : s] 11/3/2009 1:51:11 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " When you argue that liberals don't demonize and attack their opponents, that qualifies you as a partisan. " |
Who is arguing this?
You're saying that the left and the right right now are equivalent in scale in the use of certain tactics, and this is very blindingly obviously not the case.11/3/2009 1:54:48 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm right leaning... I'm not neutral by any means. " |
That means you're partisan. You can't slip out of this one, no matter how much verbal gymnastics you use.
Quote : | "The difference between me and you is that I am aware of and can acknowledge the faults in the conservative side. " |
So, when was the last time you did this? All you have done is make a general statement about how both side are guilty, but you only attack the left.
[Edited on November 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]11/3/2009 2:00:28 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its not my fault that you guys allow yourselves to be manipulated by conservative or liberal talking points. " |
Its not us being manipulated, its the minds of millions of Americans being lied to by people they trust.11/3/2009 2:07:59 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're saying that the left and the right right now are equivalent in scale in the use of certain tactics, and this is very blindingly obviously not the case." |
lol... ok 11/3/2009 7:13:28 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Nancy Pelosi is a bitch. Al Gore is an alarmist. Keith Olbermann irritates me. I'm just like you. 11/3/2009 7:28:23 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Because liberals treated and continue to treat Sarah Palin respectfully. 11/3/2009 11:42:12 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
I have no idea what point that sentence fragment ties into, or how it relates to what I or anyone else has said in this thread. And I don't really care anymore.
Hopefully this thread stands as a record that you are a pompous ass and you have no reason to think you are above anyone here. Now, maybe it can go back to the original topic. 11/4/2009 1:49:36 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Another hero of the movement, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.), has been autographing tea bags for the crowd " |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29183.html
11/5/2009 3:10:38 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#33744312 11/10/2009 10:37:22 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Gonna take issue with this one...
Quote : | "By the way, we are going to have to--if you're very old--we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you, maybe, going for another couple of months. It's too expensive--so we're going to let you die." |
--Robert Reich, UC-Berkeley, September 26, 2007
If the laughing after that comment doesn't tip you off, you might ought to vet your source material a bit better next time. Why are you quoting something that was clearly parody?11/12/2009 7:28:41 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^^That was an amazing collection of highlights that bears embedding:
11/13/2009 12:17:02 AM |
eyewall New Recruit 48 Posts user info edit post |
Who the hell voted for this woman? She is an embarrassment. I guess there are plenty of wingnuts in the 5th district. 11/18/2009 10:13:21 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see how she could be reelected after all this.
Her district includes a lot of rural areas, but there's also Lewisville-Clemmons (which might lean conservative, but not wing-nut conservative) and Boone. 11/18/2009 10:49:08 AM |
eyewall New Recruit 48 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I was surprised to see Boone in her district. Either way I hope she is booted in the next election. 11/18/2009 10:56:38 AM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're saying that the left and the right right now are equivalent in scale in the use of certain tactics, and this is very blindingly obviously not the case." |
well right now the libs are in charge so they are toned down, but as soon as the pubs are back in office they will change places.
quit being so naive.11/18/2009 12:11:41 PM |
eyewall New Recruit 48 Posts user info edit post |
She's back!
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Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
She's a senile, hateful woman. That speech of hers talking about the killing of Matthew Sheppard cost her whatever credibility she ever had. It's inexcusable for her to remain in Congress after that. 11/19/2009 5:18:02 PM |