thought this deserved it's on thread. imho the only version to get is the walmart "big screen" version with the imax scenes.It has a few battle sequences filmed to fill your hdtv, it's also the cheapest version at $19.99 for the bluray.The incredible transfer makes the human actors look great and each transformer look incredible. The sound track makes heavy use of the surrounds in the battle scenes for an uncanny sense of immersion. LF effects are incredible and take full advantage of my bass shakers embedded in my couch. Special features are seemingly endless. An entire disc dedicated to commentary , story boards and dociers on each transformer completes the bluray package.Overall good acting and plenty of special features but terrible plot/story line. What saves the it is it's serious reference quality not oly in terms of video but also audio. One of the best looking and sounding blurays to date.Visuals are stunning, and the sound track is guaranteed to piss off the neighbors.Besides the movie making no sense the only negative i can think of is the amazing clarity of megan fox's toe thumbs in the final scenes.

*btw be sure to use the 3$ off papajohns coupon makes it $18.xx after taxes

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:59 AM. Reason : awesome... typo in the title]

10/21/2009 2:58:39 AM

I LIKE THE WAY YOU USED PARAGRAPHS TO MAKE YOUR POST EASIER TO READ.

IT REALLY ACCENTUATES THE POINTS AT WHICH ONE IDEA ENDS AND THE NEXT ONE BEGINS.

10/21/2009 3:20:41 AM

TRANSFROMERS

10/21/2009 3:46:01 AM

THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST VERSION OF THIS RACIST PIECE OF SHIT MOVIE AVAILABLR

10/21/2009 3:47:51 AM

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"IT IS ON THREAD"

10/21/2009 7:43:10 AM

so much fail, so little time

10/21/2009 8:05:45 AM

sorry wrote it at 3 am so proof readin wasnt as pressing as gettin some sleep . Ill try harder next time

Can someone also explain what was racist about the movie?

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM. Reason : racist how?]

10/21/2009 8:44:19 AM

so now we're making separate threads for when the movie comes out in theaters and when it comes on home video

Dibs on GI Joe !

10/21/2009 8:49:37 AM

^^ It makes all decepticons look like evil bastards.

That's racist!

10/21/2009 8:57:40 AM

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"IT'S ON THREAD"

But I thought it was on a Blu-Ray disc?

10/21/2009 11:37:03 AM

10/21/2009 11:47:14 AM

^ as i suspected. Anyone who associates these robots with any race other than the sentient robot race is actually the racist. As a somewhat educated(arguable) black man i never identified skid and mudd flap as anything other than just idiots.

10/21/2009 3:55:20 PM

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"As a somewhat educated(arguable)"

clearly

10/21/2009 3:59:39 PM

you have to be a fucking moron to take offense to anything in that movie other than the writing and megan fox's acting.

10/21/2009 4:05:05 PM

And her toe thumbs.

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"LF effects are incredible and take full advantage of my bass shakers embedded in my couch. "

That sounds cool as shit

10/21/2009 4:24:25 PM

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"you have to be a fucking moron to take offense to anything in that movie other than the writing and megan fox's acting."

or the two robot characatures of black people that provide low brow racist humor and perpetuate stereotypes of black illiteracy, among other things.

10/21/2009 4:50:15 PM

If grape soda loving robots are racist, then call me racist.

10/21/2009 5:21:59 PM

The only racism is coming from the people that associated black actors to this stereotype.

and at the same time...if it was so 'racist' they could have turned the rolls down.

Even with a minority in office people still find room to bitch about race.

10/21/2009 6:47:07 PM

^^^ you're a fucking idiot.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM. Reason : ^^^^^^^^]

10/21/2009 10:11:26 PM

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"perpetuate stereotypes "

Give me a fucking break. They're more like two robot 'characatures' as you call them (were you really arguing about literacy?) of your suburban white kids who likes to pretend they are hard gangbangers. Some of you wolfweb nerds need to get out more. You're just looking for reasons to be indignant that aren't there.



[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason : PS the movie sucked.]

10/21/2009 11:53:30 PM

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"You're just looking for reasons to be indignant that aren't there. "

sounds like a microcosm of the internet.

10/22/2009 12:04:49 AM

I haven't seen it or have any desire to see it, but if it isn't racist then why is EVERYONE involved pushing the 'blame' to someone else?

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 12:14 AM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 12:14:34 AM

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"^^^ you're a fucking idiot."

care to elaborate, or are you just gonna leave that unsubstantiated?

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"They're more like two robot 'characatures' as you call them (were you really arguing about literacy?) of your suburban white kids who likes to pretend they are hard gangbangers."

i think you give michael bay and the other people responsible for this abortion of a movie too much credit.

look, i'm not saying that michael bay or the writers intentionally created these incredibly lame characters as a sort of social commentary on the urban black population because 1. they aren't smart enough, and 2. it wouldn't really have any place in a movie about space traveling sentient robots waging war on earth anyway. the fact is, there have been 3 characters now in two transformers movies that clearly make you think, "ok yeah, this is obviously supposed to be a black dude here." jazz was harmless enough in the first one, but the twins or whatever in the sequel are just plain obnoxious on bay's and the writers' parts. what do the rest of you who think observation of blatant ridiculous stereotyping find this hip-hop slang talking robot with a gold tooth who can't read or communicate in any form of english outside of ebonics to be more aligned with? no one in particular? hmm. yeah ok. but i'm the racist because i know better? please.

i don't mind racist humor. i love chapelle's show, but then again, who doesn't? my beef with these characters is that the direction they tried to take them in was completely unnecessary and infantile and seemed like some sort of cruel punishment for actually paying money to watch that 2 and a half hour piece of trash.

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"I haven't seen it or have any desire to see it, but if it isn't racist then why is EVERYONE involved pushing the 'blame' to someone else?"

this. i read a recent interview with the writers where they pretty much asked michael bay if he was sure he wanted to use those characters, and they said he didn't want to change them in any way. so there's the writers saying, "hey, not our fault." bay claims that's the direction the voice actors took the characters in, so he's pointing the finger at the actors like he had nothing to do with it. clearly these people know that they might not have used the best discretion with these characters, and they all want to point the finger at someone else.

10/22/2009 2:47:56 PM

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"look, i'm not saying that michael bay or the writers intentionally created these incredibly lame characters as a sort of social commentary on the urban black population because 1. they aren't smart enough, and 2. it wouldn't really have any place in a movie about space traveling sentient robots waging war on earth anyway. the fact is, there have been 3 characters now in two transformers movies that clearly make you think, "ok yeah, this is obviously supposed to be a black dude here." jazz was harmless enough in the first one, but the twins or whatever in the sequel are just plain obnoxious on bay's and the writers' parts. what do the rest of you who think observation of blatant ridiculous stereotyping find this hip-hop slang talking robot with a gold tooth who can't read or communicate in any form of english outside of ebonics to be more aligned with? no one in particular? hmm. yeah ok. but i'm the racist because i know better? please. i don't mind racist humor. i love chapelle's show, but then again, who doesn't? my beef with these characters is that the direction they tried to take them in was completely unnecessary and infantile and seemed like some sort of cruel punishment for actually paying money to watch that 2 and a half hour piece of trash. "

If only these kids Michael Bay intentionally stereotyped in his movie were smart enough to identify said characters and realize how ridiculously dumb they are as human beings and change their ways. I am sure that is what he had envisioned all along!

and in all honesty even if they are intentionally stereotyping these kids...who the fuck cares...they are worthless human beings therefore their opinions don't count. (this goes towards kids of all races who act and talk like that, as pictured above)

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 3:06:39 PM

^ i don't think you can simply say it's just supposed to be kids

10/22/2009 3:38:07 PM

@ Rat Soup bc I don't want to quote 30 pages of text.

Obviously even though the twins were robots, thus didn't have a "race" per-se, they were voiced to represent a couple of black guys (not necessarily all black guys).

I guess it becomes a question of whether any negative traits portrayed by a character of a particular race has to be considered racist.

Let's take this guy, for example:


Obviously even though this guy is a car, he's meant to represent a southern white man. He's also incredibly dumb.

Is this a racist representation? If not, why are the Twins?

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM. Reason : []

10/22/2009 3:42:41 PM

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"care to elaborate, or are you just gonna leave that unsubstantiated?"

your posts in this thread do more than enough to elaborate on and substantiate the fact that you're a fucking idiot.

10/22/2009 3:51:52 PM

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"^ i don't think you can simply say it's just supposed to be kids"

I don't mean literally children...but children in mind because that is what these types of people are (regardless of race or age).

10/22/2009 3:57:00 PM

you're obviously only allowed to be racist towards black folks ...

10/22/2009 3:58:08 PM

^nail on the head. This is exactly what America has become thanks to Al Sharpton and the likes.

10/22/2009 3:59:21 PM

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"your posts in this thread do more than enough to elaborate on and substantiate the fact that you're a fucking idiot."

ok Lokken

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"they were voiced to represent a couple of black guys (not necessarily all black guys)."

isn't that what stereotyping is though?

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"you're obviously only allowed to be racist towards black folks ... "

yeah, because that's entirely what i'm saying

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"I don't mean literally children...but children in mind because that is what these types of people are (regardless of race or age)."

i understand that the reactions caused by the characters weren't intended. i just find it hard to believe that SOMEONE responsible for this movie didn't say, "wait a minute. do we REALLY need to make these characters the way they are?"

for the record, i enjoy racist comedy that is well written and executed, i.e. chapelle's show, the boondocks, and wonder showzen. but there is just absolutely no defense or excuse for what michael bay and co. did with the 2 characters in this movie. the intentions weren't there, i know, but they still should've seen this coming.

10/22/2009 4:41:17 PM

^I would rather see things like this then watch intentional racist shows like chapelle's. He should be beaten within an inch of his life for profiting off of that garbage. (but its ok because he's black African American ).

And the only reason anyone would even think that these two clowns in the movie are racist stereotypes is because either A) they act the same way and got called the fuck out or B) they know someone who does. If he made them act like dim witted air heads...thats offensive to ALL blondes

/cry

Hell, I was more offended that they didn't portray the Great Pyramids in their actual location...because he's stereotyping that anyone who watches Transformers is an idiot and wouldn't know any better.

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 4:46:10 PM

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"isn't that what stereotyping is though?"

Not at all, how would it be?

There are people who act and talk like the twins, and are black. There are also people who act and talk like Mater from Cars, and are white.

Maybe both should be offensive to people who act and talk like those characters, but usually those people are the ones laughing the loudest.

10/22/2009 5:03:44 PM

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/25/no-one-wants-to-own-up-to-racism-in-transformers/

Again, I have no desire to see this piece of shit movie, but "don't do much readin'" seems a little far.

[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]

10/23/2009 1:03:17 AM

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" or the two robot characatures of black people that provide low brow racist humor and perpetuate stereotypes of black illiteracy"

See, and I thought it was actually black illiteracy that helped perpetuate the stereotype of black illiteracy.

Yes, the movie uses stereotypes. It's also largely accurate, and that's why it hurts.

10/23/2009 2:55:26 AM

Blu-ray and DTS Surround Sound. The new turd polish.

10/23/2009 8:08:41 AM

^^it's also largely unfunny and unnecessary. also, i'm not sure why this has its own thread.

10/23/2009 6:27:16 PM

i was semi forced to watch this movie recently and just thought the two characters were stupid...like jar-jar binks stupid.

and i never thought it was racist either but i was picturing them as jamie kennedy from malibu's most wanted. just two idiots trying to be thug. shit i've seen someone of every race come off like that.

...though i did fall asleep several times during the movie, so i may have missed the twins going through the kfc drive-thru or something.

10/27/2009 6:15:29 PM

[Edited on October 27, 2009 at 6:15 PM. Reason : rpt]

10/27/2009 6:15:29 PM