might upset somebody
http://olemisslife.com/content/ole-miss-band-faces-loss-dixie-love-if-controversial-chant-continues

Really? Saying "The South Shall Rise Again" might upset someone? BOO FUCKING HOO. I swear, this political correctness bullshit has gone too far

11/14/2009 1:45:56 PM

i wish they'd stop playing that "monster" song on this nc state/clemson broadcast

11/14/2009 1:51:24 PM

People have to grow up sometime.

I like the double standard you have though… blacks aren’t allowed to say their condition is related to slavery and jim crow, but the whites are allowed to harken back to those slave days whenever they want.

And i’m sure you’ve heard the story of the school in mississippi that had their firs integrated prom just last year: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91371629

They are a backwards people in mississippi and anything that pulls them into the 20th century even is good for them.

11/14/2009 2:03:38 PM

come on. blacks complaining about slavery is a million times different than having some kind of regional pride, and you know it.

11/14/2009 3:33:01 PM

Considering this is the same region where people have been lynched for trying to help black folks, I'd say they're a lot more related than you'd give credit.

11/14/2009 5:53:13 PM

If you're from the south and white you should remained ashamed for shit that happend almost 150 years ago. Didn't you get the memo from ACORN and the DNC?

11/14/2009 5:56:23 PM

^^ Yeah, there have never been any race-related incidents in New York, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, and so on. STFU.

11/14/2009 6:29:35 PM

I'm here to agree with hooksaw.

the south definitely doesn't and didn't have the market cornered on racism. at all.

this is an old argument, though. all it takes is reading a few American history books, particularly ones about immigration and socialization.

11/14/2009 7:03:00 PM

^^ Ya, I get that. But if you want to leave the past in the past, then you can't decide to pick and choose the parts you like and don't like. You gotta leave shit like this behind, too.

11/14/2009 7:10:28 PM

Quote :

"If you're from the south and white you should remained ashamed for shit that happend almost 150 years ago."

you shouldn't be ashamed for it just as you shouldn't be chanting in pride about it.



o and stuff like this is why you can't win at old miss. Oxford's just too much of a "rebel" establishment to effectively pull in the top black athletes that can compete with the alabamas lsus etc.

[Edited on November 14, 2009 at 7:46 PM. Reason : j]

11/14/2009 7:42:41 PM

"The South Shall Rise Again"

OH GOD!

WHY???

11/14/2009 8:27:21 PM

I guess I think some people need to stop being so fucking sensitive. Regional pride >> some sissy's feelings

11/14/2009 8:29:55 PM

Yeah right, they're celebrating the South as it was AT THAT TIME PERIOD for a reason. Why not celebrate and be proud of the South as it was around the time of the fucking industrial revolution or some shit?

I'M NOT GOING TO CELEBRATE THE SOUTH UNLESS I'M CELEBRATING THE SOUTH AS IT WAS WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT TO OWN AND HANG NEGROES!!!!

LOL

"The South Shall Rise Again"

OH NOES!!!

11/14/2009 8:34:23 PM

BUNCHA SISSIES KEEPIN ME FROM WHISTLIN DEUTCHLAND UBER ALLES!

IT'S MA GERMAN HERITAGE!

/Godwin's law

11/14/2009 9:29:23 PM

nice one, lol.

11/14/2009 9:47:13 PM

What will they outlaw next...Hushpuppies?

11/15/2009 12:11:29 AM

HUSHPUPPIES ARE RACIST. rawr rawr rawr

11/15/2009 12:27:40 AM

^^^^

Deutschland Uber Alles is the current german national anthem, dumbass, written by Haydn in 1797.

11/15/2009 7:52:35 AM

^
Same tune...they just changed the title to "Deutchland's Really Sorry...Really"

11/15/2009 10:27:53 AM

11/15/2009 10:35:34 AM

Cry more

11/15/2009 10:45:24 AM

you people need to read the fucking article.

everyone, aside from a contingent of mob-rule rednecks, is behind the initiative to stop students from shouting a secessionist and historically racist chant at football games.

Quote :

"Chancellor Dan Jones said if University of Mississippi students continue to chant “the South will rise again” during football games, he will have to ask the Ole Miss Band to stop playing “From Dixie With Love.” “It is my role to listen to the many voices in our Ole Miss community and determine an appropriate course of action,” Jones said in a letter to the student body “Concerned student leaders, administrators, faculty, athletics administrators and coaches, alumni and major donors have called for discontinuing the chant,” the letter [written by Chancellor Jones to the said. “I share their view that these words are harmful. They have been used by others in the past to resist racial integration and the progress of civil rights for everyone. Although those who chant may not have bad intent, the words are painful and create an unwelcome feeling for many on our campus, a place widely known for its grace and Southern hospitality.” The movement to end the chant started nearly a month ago when the Associated Student Body passed a resolution discouraging students from participating in the chant. Since then the issue has rallied support from the chancellor and faculty senate as well as gained national media attention from the Associated Press and ESPN.com. Many alumni, donors, coaches, and faculty members expressed their concerns in a university press release. “If we cannot get behind a student initiative that is trying to do the right thing, then we have failed our students,” Jones said in the press release. The University of Mississippi Alumni Association (UMAA) is also supporting the resolution."

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 12:56:09 PM

Slight clarification:

The song in question isn't "Dixie," it's "From Dixie with Love" which is based on "An American Trilogy" (mainly known as Elvis' version). The line where people yell "the south shall rise again" is to the melody of "Battle Hymn of the Republic."

And ^ is right, a lot of people down here have been suggesting for months that the students just change it to something like "Ole Miss shall rise again."

11/15/2009 1:01:38 PM

you people also need to listen to the Fifth Stanza from our UNITED STATES NATIONAL ANTHEM.

Quote :

"When our land is illumined with liberty's smile, If a foe from within strikes a blow at her glory, Down, down with the traitor that tries to defile The flag of the stars, and the page of her story! By the millions unchained, Who their birthright have gained We will keep her bright blazon forever unstained; And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave, While the land of the free is the home of the brave."

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 1:12:45 PM

terpball posted in a thread about race relations

11/15/2009 1:29:36 PM

Ernie posted about terpball again

You have a crush on me dude?

11/15/2009 1:43:03 PM

This is rediculous. I think al sharpton, liberal democrats, and certain minorities groups incorrectly autocorrelate southern pride into a convoluted pro-slavery racist mindset.

11/15/2009 2:46:18 PM

This would not so often be the case if those who tend to so vociferously demonstrate southern pride were not also the ones who so often display an overtly racist mindset through other means.

11/15/2009 3:15:10 PM

I know plenty of people up here in the DC metro area who express their southern pride without resorting to chanting "The South Shall Rise Again" and waving a confederate flag. Some southerners just love the idea of how the South was back in 1850, and love to show it!

11/15/2009 4:20:33 PM

I'll tell you what betrays these asshole's racism is the fact that as much as they like to pretend that the stars and bars are about "cultural heritage," its obvious that they don't know jack shit about it because then they would know that

1) the stars and bars is NOT the confederate flag (as they claim)
2) the stars and bars was popularized early in the 20th century by white supremacist groups because it was the confederate battle flag

So... yea. Those two little factoids usually results in two reactions

1) Shamed silence
2) Full on redneck rampage as their racism is laid bare for all to see

11/15/2009 4:24:16 PM

^
This is the "Stars and Bars."

Know what you are talking about before you go spouting shit off.



Not only that, but it (and it's other variations with more stars) was the official confederate flag only until 1863, after which a white flag with the "southern cross" emblem on it was adopted.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 4:49:51 PM

Quote :

"Yeah right, they're celebrating the South as it was AT THAT TIME PERIOD for a reason. Why not celebrate and be proud of the South as it was around the time of the fucking industrial revolution or some shit?"

Congratulations on making a 100% unfounded statement.

Quote :

"everyone, aside from a contingent of mob-rule rednecks"

Congratulations on making a 100% unfounded statement.

Quote :

"This would not so often be the case if those who tend to so vociferously demonstrate southern pride were not also the ones who so often display an overtly racist mindset through other means."

What? Guilt by association? I guess that means Obama really is a communist.

11/15/2009 5:03:34 PM

^^ whatever - you know EXACTLY to which flag I was referring... In fact, I explictly said that it was the battle flag.

Look - I'm not the one claiming to know and celebrate the "cultural heritage" of a bunch of racist rednecks. My point stands.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM. Reason : s]

11/15/2009 5:14:16 PM

no, you tried to talk down to a group of people and came off like a complete moron in the process. your entire "argument" was based on wrong assumptions and was blatantly incorrect.

you fail.

11/15/2009 5:17:29 PM

I'll tell you what betrays these asshole's racism is the fact that as much as they like to pretend that the flag is about "cultural heritage," its obvious that they don't know jack shit about it because then they would know that

1) the flag they celebrate is NOT the confederate flag (as they claim)
2) the flag they celebrate was popularized early in the 20th century by white supremacist groups because it was the confederate battle flag

So... yea. Those two little factoids usually results in two reactions

1) Shamed silence
2) Full on redneck rampage as their racism is laid bare for all to see

11/15/2009 5:19:18 PM

they don't pick that flag for racist intentions, though. What THEY know of the flag is what it represents TO THEM.

The Nazis picked the swastika. I guess that makes all Indian people nazis, right?

11/15/2009 5:20:25 PM

Why did they pick the flag? The popularity of the battle flag is directly traceable to its popularization by white supremacist groups in the early 20th century. Therefore, it IS a racist symbol in our modern context with racist origins and furthermore, they clearly are NOT celebrating a race-neutral cultural history. If they truly had any interest in their cultural history, they would realize the racist origins of the popularization of hte battle flag and they would fly the true confederate flag instead

11/15/2009 5:25:55 PM

^^

Quote :

"they don't pick that flag for racist intentions, though. "

How the fuck do you know why they really display that flag? Would you like to describe exactly what the flag means to people? Talk about unfounded statements...

11/15/2009 5:28:05 PM

Quote :

"Congratulations on making a 100% unfounded statement."

How the fuck could you call that statement 100% unfounded? How slow are you? I guess you wouldn't know...

11/15/2009 5:29:06 PM

^ congrats on, again, making a 100% unfounded statement.

^^ ok, then how can YOU tell me why they display it, as well? Two can play that game.

^^^ Some people undoubtedly display it to be racists. The vast majority today probably don't know the "history."

11/15/2009 5:33:06 PM

Quote :

"The vast majority today probably don't know the "history.""

I'll grant you that, but then they go around claiming that they are just celebrating their history... Well, I'm sorry but you have no right to celebrate your history if you don't even know what it is. And this is not innocent faux-pas. This is a huge offense - they KNOW that it has a racist stigma because otherwise they wouldn't have to defend it with their "its my culture" argument. So, if they know it has racist overtones, perhaps they should investigate why it does rather than knee-jerk rejecting the truth. And that very insensitivity to the racism issue is proof enough that they are, actually, racist.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM. Reason : s]

11/15/2009 5:37:46 PM

Quote :

"^^ ok, then how can YOU tell me why they display it, as well? Two can play that game."

You can play games if you don't want to back up your statement. I've made no claims about why they display it, however that flag has an undeniable connection to racist rednecks.

Okay, wait a minute...

Quote :

"Some people undoubtedly display it to be racists."

You just contradicted yourself now.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2009 5:41:48 PM

Solinari dropping some truth in this thread

idiot bigots like aaronburro crying about it

11/15/2009 5:42:34 PM

Quote :

"Well, I'm sorry but you have no right to celebrate your history if you don't even know what it is."

Would you apply this to EVERY racial group?

Quote :

"This is a huge offense - they KNOW that it has a racist stigma because otherwise they wouldn't have to defend it with their "its my culture" argument."

Bullshit, and you know it. They aren't sayin "it's my culture." They say it's a matter of regional pride. Yes, there's a bit of ignorance there, but they aren't claiming to be taking the high ground of "culture." Likewise, white supremacists [i]also[i/] embraced the cross. Does that mean that anyone displaying the cross is a raging racist redneck?

Quote :

"You just contradicted yourself now. "

No, not really. It's just acknowledging that some, NOT ALL, are assholes. Wow, what an amazing statement

^ sup, McDouche?

11/15/2009 5:46:02 PM

Quote :

"they don't pick that flag for racist intentions, though. "

It is when you make an absolute statement like this, where you deny all racist intentions.

11/15/2009 5:49:47 PM

I've made my point. I understand that there will always be apologists for racism and ignorance.

11/15/2009 5:50:27 PM

Quote :

"Solinari dropping some truth in this thread idiot bigots like aaronburro crying about it"

11/15/2009 6:15:09 PM

Why not just show your "southern pride" by being polite to folks while making biscuits and sweet tea instead of shouting a chant of secession?

11/15/2009 6:19:13 PM

Quote :

"they would realize the racist origins of the popularization of hte battle flag and they would fly the true confederate flag instead"

The official confederate flag from 1863-1865 was this:



and for a short time after was this:



[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 6:29:16 PM

strangely enough, i haven't seen either of those two flags on chevy pickups or harley davidsons around here.

11/15/2009 6:34:15 PM