Wanted to set the record straight. There was a pretty serious false accusation made against Chuck which should be corrected.

message_topic.aspx?topic=457081&page=7#11641382

Quote :

"The amazing thing about our performance artist Charles A. Jones, Jr. is that he keeps making false statements that are easily exposed as lies. His fantasy life includes making lots of money, teaching at a prestigious law school, noble service in the military, and: arguing cases before the Georgia Supreme Court. A quick trip to the website of the GA supreme court reveals that they have a docket search utility that allows one to search by representing attorney. Is there any record of Charles A. Jones, Jr to be found here? You can click below to find the answer, but I bet you already know http://www.gasupreme.us/docket_search/results_attorney.php?searchterm=Jones&submit=Search I wonder if Dave, Juliet, or the twins have ever argued cases before the Georgia Supreme Court"

Say what you will about Chuck, I think that arguing a case before a state supreme court is a pretty big deal and he should be given credit for it. I doubt there are many of us who will have a chance to do something quite as impressive at age 30.

http://www.gasupreme.us/docket_search/results_one_record.php?docr_case_num=S09A0118

11/18/2009 8:08:11 PM

Pffft. My roommate is part of the team representing NC in a case before the US Supreme Court, and he's 24 and mildly retarded.

Also worth pointing out that the "false accusation" was made months before the case you cite was put on the docket.

11/18/2009 8:14:25 PM

it says there the case was remitted to a lower court.

11/18/2009 8:15:03 PM

The guy could've stormed the beaches of Normandy and punched Hitler in the nut(s).

His douchebaggery trumps it all.

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM. Reason : historical accuracy. ]

11/18/2009 8:16:37 PM

Ah, good point. So he was the lawyer in a case that was not good enough for the Georgia Supreme Court, which apparently has much more important matters involving peanut farming or some such.

11/18/2009 8:16:54 PM

Are the dates on their website not the dates actual arguements took place?

I only ask because the post you reference happened on 5/29/08, while the first date listed on that page is for September 25, 2008.

Or are you simply point out that since that posting he has, in fact, entered the GA Supreme Court's records?

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM. Reason : Just to clarify, this is genuine confusion as to your intent, not an attempt to be "snarky"]

11/18/2009 8:19:17 PM

so just to be clear, all of that other stuff was, in fact, lies and fabrication...but the part about arguing a case before the GA SC was, in fact, an embedded kernel of truth?

11/18/2009 8:29:39 PM

Quote :

"Say what you will about Chuck, I think that arguing a case before a state supreme court is a pretty big deal and he should be given credit for it."

LOL

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Quote :

"Ah, good point. So he was the lawyer in a case that was not good enough for the Georgia Supreme Court, which apparently has much more important matters involving peanut farming or some such."

It being remitted to a lower court doesn't mean the case "was not good enough for the Georgia Supreme Court." That isn't how the court system works. It's just the highest appellate court, they could have decided a crucial factor on appeal and sent the case back down to the lower court.

Either way, arguing in front of a state supreme court is not shit. In fact, you could find yourself there by being a horrible lawyer.

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM. Reason : ]

11/18/2009 8:30:34 PM

Quote :

"Say what you will about Chuck, I think that arguing a case before a state supreme court is a pretty big deal and he should be given credit for it. I doubt there are many of us who will have a chance to do something quite as impressive at age 30."

Thanks for the props but did you have to mention that number?! I live with someone who is 22 so I feel like the old man anyway! I feel like I ought to be walking around with a cane, reminiscing about the good old days, and telling people to get off my lawn. (Regardless of whether anyone is actually on my lawn or not.)

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM. Reason : get off my lawn bastards]

11/18/2009 8:33:07 PM

I guess it's a matter of perspective. I'm more impressed by him having a pretty decent looking website.

http://www.attorneycjones.com/homepage.html

Granted, it's mostly fluff, and he really needs to rethink that picture on his Profile page, but all-in-all it's not bad. Plus, it's pretty damned hard to run your own lawfirm at his age. I hope it's working out for him.

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM. Reason : Well his = ^thatguy. So there you go.]

11/18/2009 8:34:54 PM

How's that a good website? It's busy as hell. Where am I supposed to start reading?

11/18/2009 8:39:24 PM

Thanks - it was hard getting started, because Athens already has SOOO many lawyers. But I've got things going well now, doing a pretty busy case load, a good mix of appellate and trial work to keep me interested. Beer's on me next time you visit Athens or ATL. (When does NC State play GA Tech next)

11/18/2009 8:40:02 PM

^^ I think I have lower expectations for the average Attorney's website. I see one that's color coordinated and has defined sections and it catches me off guard.

11/18/2009 8:41:58 PM

^^If you want to be taken seriously as a politician, I'd get as far away from TSB@TWW as possible

11/18/2009 9:03:07 PM

Nah, not interested in being involved in politics - it is all way too slow of a process. You can usually effect the kind of change you want by using the legal system, and most of the time it can be done by temporary injunction (which ends up being extreme-long-term "temporary.")

11/18/2009 9:31:01 PM

^Translation: you can get much farther being a terrible liar in the lawyer business than you can in the politics business.

[Edited on November 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM. Reason : Chuck Jones, liar, esquire]

11/18/2009 10:06:56 PM

^
I would have went with:
Translation: the story about be fabricating an entire family would haunt me for the rest of my political career

11/19/2009 12:15:15 AM

Actually, I am very very proud of that. It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. I firmly believe that whenever that kind of behaviour is found, it should be exposed by any means necessary, whatever the cost. I am proud to have had a part in exposing it. Partly because of that expose', those "undesirables" now have a fantastic brand new mansion in south Athens - which I am told they enjoy tremendously.

I feel it is one of the responsibilities of an Attorney to stand up for those whose rights are being threatened - whether it be in housing discrimination, or in the other areas of law that Jones Appellate handles; including race discrimination in employment, governmental suppression of free speech, rights of low-income tenants, rights of fathers, domestic violence victims, just to name a few. I take that responsibility seriously and I am very eager to fulfill it.

I remember, when I lived in Raleigh, that all the students complained about the Nuisance Party Ordinance (aka the Brent Road Party Ordinance) but no one ever actually did anything about it in Court. I am very privileged to be ready, willing, and able to "do something about it" when I see people's rights being threatened. I pray each day that Our Beneficent Lord continue to grant me that privilege.



[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 1:26 AM. Reason : I used to be able to spell]

11/19/2009 1:11:18 AM

11/19/2009 1:24:07 AM

So what was the controversy with Dave, Juliet, and the twins?

It seems like now he's saying that he was trying to out some folks for discriminatory housing practices, in which case I'm crazy on board with the whole bit.

So what's the deal, folks? Rehash, please.

11/19/2009 2:00:20 AM

Dave, Juliet, and the twins are fictional. He used their fictional plight to pretend that he was a good person rather than just another douchebag with an embarrassing neck beard

11/19/2009 2:13:53 AM

How did he use them?

Did he talk about them?

Did he have them posting on certain websites in his favor?

I still don't get it.

11/19/2009 2:21:11 AM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=457081&page=1

first article has the sordid details

11/19/2009 2:23:45 AM

Quote :

"It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. I firmly believe that whenever that kind of behaviour is found, it should be exposed by any means necessary, whatever the cost."

That's a load of fucking horse shit.

There are very clear limits on what any normal person would do -- even a slime ball like yourself.

Frankly, I don't see Wolfpack2K standing outside the houses of "undesirables" with a rifle, fending off the authorities. An extreme example, I admit, but you left yourself open to such with the grandiose statements in that post.

You were perfectly willing to violate fundamental rules of ethics -- at least, I assume the rules are fundamentally the same in Georgia as they are in NC -- but I'll be god damned if you're willing to go much further than that.

Holy fuck, you're the one I prophesied in an earlier post about John Edwards -- a person who is willing to do anything for more power.

11/19/2009 2:33:54 AM

Blah, confused cajones with cojones.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 2:55 AM. Reason : ]

11/19/2009 2:54:16 AM

OK, Bridget, I have to admit that what you just said is fairly awesome.

But I am willing to ignore that in favor of saying, "Fuck this guy."

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 2:56 AM. Reason : even with the misspelling, which I did not note.]

11/19/2009 2:56:03 AM

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"Holy fuck, you're the one I prophesied in an earlier post about John Edwards -- a person who is willing to do anything for more power."

Oh my. A real live prophet amongst us, right here on the little ol' Wolf Web!

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"You were perfectly willing to violate fundamental rules of ethics -- at least, I assume the rules are fundamentally the same in Georgia as they are in NC "

If you want to put your money where your mouth is and accuse me of ethical violation where it really counts - instead of on the Wolf Web - visit http://www.gabar.org. The State Bar of Georgia General Counsel's name is Paula Frederick. I'm sure that she will be as eager as all of us undoubtedly are to listen to your prophesy.

Bridget.. 1) I remember you, how've you been? 2) I think I've said all I need to say in respect to the matter.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:01 AM. Reason : bridg]

11/19/2009 2:58:51 AM

Quote :

"The State Bar of Georgia General Counsel's name is Paula Frederick."

I admit that I'm not sure how the State Bar of Georgia relates to some of the things you've done. But I'm pretty sure that making up a whole fucking family falls into the "unethical" category.

11/19/2009 3:00:32 AM

Quote :

"Actually, I am very very proud of that. It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood."

If that was the case, why didn't you just say so when you were called out on making up stories? Instead you expanded the lie and said it was for a "shy friend from NC State"

btw...how does someone who graduates from NCSU with a 2.4 GPA get into the UGA law school? Their standards must be pretty fucking low to take you in.

11/19/2009 3:01:42 AM

As I said, if you believe that I have violated ethics the appropriate course of action is to contact Ms. Frederick at the above stated address and share your prophesy with her.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:03 AM. Reason : prophesy]

11/19/2009 3:02:21 AM

Sorry, I didn't notice that you'd posted above.

I didn't accuse you of anything related to the bar association. I accused you of being a fucking piece of shit who will lie about anything and then avoid talking about his lies to continue perpetrating them.

To an extent, we put you in a difficult situation because you can't prove a negative. But then again, you haven't even fucking tried.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:06 AM. Reason : ]

11/19/2009 3:02:45 AM

You prophesied, and I quote:

Quote :

"You were perfectly willing to violate fundamental rules of ethics..."

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"But I'm pretty sure that making up a whole fucking family falls into the "unethical" category. "

Contact Information:

Hon. Paula Frederick
General Counsel, State Bar of Georgia
104 Marietta Street, NW
Suite 100
Atlanta, GA 30303


The situation is not difficult for me at all. I have said all I need to say upon the matter in my post above. I will continue to stand up when people's rights are being threatened, regardless of whether it meets with The Wolf Web's approval or not. When I raised my hand before Chief Judge Adamson and Court Clerk Gloria Wall, I told them I would defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Georgia, so help me God - and by God that is exactly what I mean to do, whatever the cost.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:10 AM. Reason : "Prophet!" said I! "Thing of evil! Prophet still, if bird or devil..."]

11/19/2009 3:08:33 AM

And you are unwilling to read what is written.

The ethics of the law (not even of lawyers) =/= what is actually ethical, in the sense of being right. This disregarding the fact that your ethical lapses were not committed in a way related to the bar of any sate that I know of. I will admit that perhaps in certain places electoral dishonesty is directly related to one's dishonesty in court. If that is the case in Georgia, you may rest assured that I will write to Ms. Frederick.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:15 AM. Reason : I didn't realized that either constitution said, "Go ahead and make shit up."]

11/19/2009 3:14:05 AM

The address is stated above. Put your money where your mouth is, assuming you have that much money.

Quote :

"Actually, I am very very proud of that. It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. I firmly believe that whenever that kind of behaviour is found, it should be exposed by any means necessary, whatever the cost. I am proud to have had a part in exposing it. Partly because of that expose', those "undesirables" now have a fantastic brand new mansion in south Athens - which I am told they enjoy tremendously. I feel it is one of the responsibilities of an Attorney to stand up for those whose rights are being threatened - whether it be in housing discrimination, or in the other areas of law that Jones Appellate handles; including race discrimination in employment, governmental suppression of free speech, rights of low-income tenants, rights of fathers, domestic violence victims, just to name a few. I take that responsibility seriously and I am very eager to fulfill it. I remember, when I lived in Raleigh, that all the students complained about the Nuisance Party Ordinance (aka the Brent Road Party Ordinance) but no one ever actually did anything about it in Court. I am very privileged to be ready, willing, and able to "do something about it" when I see people's rights being threatened. I pray each day that Our Beneficent Lord continue to grant me that privilege."

This is all that needs to be said upon the matter, and upon that I stand.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:17 AM. Reason : A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house]

11/19/2009 3:15:40 AM

You know, thank God I was feeling nostalgic tonight and decided to visit the ol' Wolf Web, otherwise I might never have known we had a prophet here!

11/19/2009 3:18:09 AM

Hahahaha, see how he continues to defy the charges leveled against him. No doubt Our Beneficent Lord, when He said, "Thou shalt not bear false witness," clearly meant "You can't bear false witness against make-believe people, so go ahead and knock yourself out!"

The responsibility of an attorney to stand up for the rights of those whose rights are threatened does not give one the right to fabricate evidence. If the thing is right, then the rightness of the thing itself will, in time, be sufficient. If the timeframe is not adequate for you, by all means do what you think necessary, but don't bullshit about it later.\

edit: Good to see that you take the prophet thing so seriously, no doubt because you read the post in question in its original context and/or have any sense about when things are meant literally.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:21 AM. Reason : ]

11/19/2009 3:20:10 AM

Quote :

"does not give one the right to fabricate evidence."

If you believe I have fabricated evidence, the person to write to is Hon. Paula Frederick, General Counsel, at the address stated above. Put your money where your mouth is.

Quote :

""Actually, I am very very proud of that. It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. I firmly believe that whenever that kind of behaviour is found, it should be exposed by any means necessary, whatever the cost. I am proud to have had a part in exposing it. Partly because of that expose', those "undesirables" now have a fantastic brand new mansion in south Athens - which I am told they enjoy tremendously. I feel it is one of the responsibilities of an Attorney to stand up for those whose rights are being threatened - whether it be in housing discrimination, or in the other areas of law that Jones Appellate handles; including race discrimination in employment, governmental suppression of free speech, rights of low-income tenants, rights of fathers, domestic violence victims, just to name a few. I take that responsibility seriously and I am very eager to fulfill it. I remember, when I lived in Raleigh, that all the students complained about the Nuisance Party Ordinance (aka the Brent Road Party Ordinance) but no one ever actually did anything about it in Court. I am very privileged to be ready, willing, and able to "do something about it" when I see people's rights being threatened. I pray each day that Our Beneficent Lord continue to grant me that privilege.""

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:28 AM. Reason : Prophesy! Who is it that pwned thee?]]

11/19/2009 3:22:14 AM

Let the word go forth: Wolfpack's ability to repeat himself without saying anything new is unparalleled in this life or the next.

11/19/2009 3:22:50 AM

Let me go ahead and save you the trouble:

Quote :

"Actually, I am very very proud of that. It had come to my attention that residents of a certain affluent neighborhood had been attempting to use their "pull" with the local government to keep certain "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. I firmly believe that whenever that kind of behaviour is found, it should be exposed by any means necessary, whatever the cost. I am proud to have had a part in exposing it. Partly because of that expose', those "undesirables" now have a fantastic brand new mansion in south Athens - which I am told they enjoy tremendously. I feel it is one of the responsibilities of an Attorney to stand up for those whose rights are being threatened - whether it be in housing discrimination, or in the other areas of law that Jones Appellate handles; including race discrimination in employment, governmental suppression of free speech, rights of low-income tenants, rights of fathers, domestic violence victims, just to name a few. I take that responsibility seriously and I am very eager to fulfill it. I remember, when I lived in Raleigh, that all the students complained about the Nuisance Party Ordinance (aka the Brent Road Party Ordinance) but no one ever actually did anything about it in Court. I am very privileged to be ready, willing, and able to "do something about it" when I see people's rights being threatened. I pray each day that Our Beneficent Lord continue to grant me that privilege."

11/19/2009 3:24:24 AM

OMG! I was just about to write that... wow you really ARE a prophet!

*genuflects*




[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:34 AM. Reason : Then was fulfilled what was spoken by the prophet...]

11/19/2009 3:34:03 AM

I don't know... I am inclined to believe that there was a person that he did help with that housing situation. He got an awful lot of grief about the supreme court thing, which he handled very similarly (calmly). That turned out to be true... Is there any conclusive proof that there was NOT a shy friend from NCSU or can we just not find any proof that there was one? He's got a winning track record so far, and deserves the benefit of the doubt... It is not out of line to obfuscate the identity of someone who wishes to remain anonymous and at this point, that's about all anyone can pin on him. News organizations do this all the time when they use a false name for someone who wishes to remain anonymous.


[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 AM. Reason : s]

11/19/2009 5:54:00 AM

^

Quote :

"Chuck told this newspaper he created his imaginary friends as a "pseudonym" for a shy college friend looking for a job in Athens. But after being told the name in confidence, strangely enough, our reporter cannot find him anywhere in North Carolina."

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/043006/opinion_20060430031.shtml

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Quote :

"Nah, not interested in being involved in politics - it is all way too slow of a process. You can usually effect the kind of change you want by using the legal system, and most of the time it can be done by temporary injunction (which ends up being extreme-long-term "temporary.")"

Interesting that Dave, Juliet, and the kids Chuck Jones supports legislating from the bench.

----

I'm also curious about the relationship between Solinari and Chuck Jones.

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Quote :

"Oh right, and serving my country in the military starting in August. "

--Wolfpack2k, 5/28/2008 8:36:14 PM

How did your military service turn out?

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"I'm a successful attorney with my own practice, making more money than you've ever seen before or will again, becoming a tenure-track faculty member at a major research university, and arguing cases before the Georgia Supreme Court."

--Wolfpack2k, 5/28/2008 8:31:47 PM

Quote :

"Legal Experience: Law Clerk Intern, Chief Judge Robert W. Adamson Adjunct Instructor of Business Law, Appalachian Technical College"

Quote :

"In early 2009 he argued a Constitutional case before the Georgia Supreme Court"

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 8:19 AM. Reason : ]

11/19/2009 8:05:08 AM

I don't know who Wolfpack2 is, but based on his postings, he seems like a gigantic douchebag. With all the reasoning he does on the job, it's very worrisome that he is so oblivious to his own social shortcomings. I know quite a few attorneys who would never pull the stunts or say the lame shit he does. I am not impressed.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 8:35 AM. Reason : -]

11/19/2009 8:32:07 AM

Quote :

"But after being told the name in confidence, strangely enough, our reporter cannot find him anywhere in North Carolina."

Seriously? That means the person doesn't exist? What a dumbass. Don't forget, we couldn't find records of Chuck arguing before the supreme court... Doesn't mean it didn't happen. Maybe this kid is unlisted. Maybe the reporter didn't really even try beyond a simple google search. Who the F knows? All I know is that everyone who said Chuck was lying about the supreme court has egg on their face. THEY are the ones whose credibility should be questioned, not Chucks.

11/19/2009 8:46:43 AM

I think you need to check the dates again, champ.

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 8:56 AM. Reason : or should I say troll?]

11/19/2009 8:55:35 AM

Hahahaha doesn't matter how many times I revisit this, I laugh.

11/19/2009 9:18:55 AM

damn, looks like I missed some good times in TSB before I started coming in here

11/19/2009 9:20:33 AM

so i guess that solinari is dave, juliet and the twins

11/19/2009 9:35:46 AM

pooljobs - Dave
Solinari - Juliet
McDanger - the twins

11/19/2009 9:38:15 AM

^^^^^ I am aware of the dates. I'm guessing that he was scheduled to argue before the supreme court and stretched the truth a little for the purposes of his argument.

But I mean seriously, if your argument is reduced to whether or not he had already argued before the supreme court months before he actually did, when he was clearly scheduled to do so - and did, then that makes you the troll.

Because in the context of what people say about themselves on the internet, I'd say this rates well within the definition of internet honesty.

Of course, no one likes him, so we don't feel bad when we hold him to a double standard


[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM. Reason : s]

11/19/2009 9:40:26 AM