dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
i know the deadline is passed but i was wondering if it was possible to drop a class and how hard it would be to do so. i don't care if it shows up on my transcript as a withdrawal or whatever as long as my gpa is unaffected.
thanks 11/19/2009 4:14:12 AM |
Perlith All American 7620 Posts user info edit post |
If this is one course vs. the entire semester, will be difficult, and, will take a LOT of paperwork to make it happen. Go see your advisor. Overall though, one bad course grade isn't going to affect your GPA too greatly long term once averaged in with all of the other courses. 11/19/2009 6:36:31 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
you can get the entire semester dropped through counseling
one class, you better have a damn good excuse 11/19/2009 10:47:03 AM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
you'll only be able to do it if the professor is on board 11/19/2009 11:16:54 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
you can try and bitch about how you thought you changed it to credit only in the new system, they will most just say "no, you should've checked regularly"
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 11/19/2009 11:35:39 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
YOU GONNA GET FAILED 11/19/2009 1:40:28 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
it's possible, how easy it is really depends though. What class, what time of day, who's the instructor, why are you having trouble?
I've dropped an entire semester, and individual classes past the drop date. I've also had an instructor give me an incomplete and allow me to finish the class the next semester (it was actually 2 semesters later b/c it was only taught in the spring). But like someone said, one class really doesn't make much of a difference. So keep that in mind as well. If it's going to make it so you can't matriculate now or something, that's a problem. But after 120+hrs, it really won't have much significance on your gpa.
I'm assuming you're actually a sophomore, and the info. in your profile is just old? You could do a freshman retake if you are a freshman. 11/19/2009 2:26:44 PM |
dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
yea im a sophomore. freshman year was a breeze so i wasn't ready when sophomore year rolled around and i had to take higher level classes. im actually doing bad in almost all of my classes but there is one in particular that i am failing. what are the consequences of dropping a semester other than having to spend an extra semester in college. im assuming you lose the tuition you paid for that semester as well right? 11/19/2009 2:45:13 PM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
you loose that tuition money, you run the risk of loosing financial aid for next year because you have to pass 24 or more credit hours per year to qualify and you don't qualify for summer financial aid.
As far as dropping a single class they will not authorize anything 2 weeks before the end of the semester which is after 2pm tomorrow. To get it you need medically documented reason or something equally substantial and the sign off from your adviser and your professor.
As far as dropping a whole semester you can do that anytime. You could try to do it now or 2 years from now, it doesn't matter. You do need to work with the counseling center to make it happen.
If it is just one class take the fail, throw your effort in the the classes you can salvage. One bad class over the years isn't going to ruin things 11/19/2009 3:40:55 PM |
shredder All American 1262 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yep you get no refund. The entire semester "vanishes" like you never took it. With that being said, there has to be some sort of reason for them to drop it for you...aka family issues, medical reasons, stresses and other stuff that the counseling center would see as a reason to "drop your semester." As far as just doing bad in school; that won't cut it. You better have some sort of reason that you fucked up so hard. If not, then you're shit out of luck.
[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2009 3:41:56 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If it is just one class take the fail, throw your effort in the the classes you can salvage. One bad class over the years isn't going to ruin things" |
Nah, failing any class, even one, screws your GPA pretty hard.11/19/2009 3:51:11 PM |
dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
would this work...
i got 2 speeding tickets at the beginning of the semester and had to deal with court issues. my sister has been very ill and my mom works part time and my dad works all the way in charlotte so i've had to go home constantly (i live in cary which is 30 min away) to take care of my sister. these are both legit but how far will they look into it. would i have to provide doctors info for my sister or will a parents note be sufficent. i can prove the speeding tickets and court dates/issues too. 11/19/2009 3:54:05 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
You'd probably need the actual documentation, and you'd have to play up the "I was really stressed out and started to get behind" angle.
[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ] 11/19/2009 4:07:33 PM |
bobster All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you run the risk of loosing financial aid for next year because you have to pass 24 or more credit hours per year to qualify and you don't qualify for summer financial aid" |
While this is true, I have found the financial aid office to be very lenient with waivers.11/19/2009 5:06:12 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
the easiest way to get this done is go to the counseling center. They can have this done by noon tomorrow if you can get in there and they buy it. You're probably gonna have to tell them that this stuff has been a huge distraction, you haven't been able to focus, etc (which i'm assuming is probably true to some extent anyhow). Nobody is going to ask you for notes from their doctors. But you really do have to sell it as what's caused this. If your grades were good last year, and plummeted with this going on, that helps.
You will lose tuition. And it may make it difficult to be eligible for financial aid. It is possible to drop just one course, but it's harder because of the reasoning. I've been able to drop an 8 o'clock class in the past because of unexpected and necessary changes in work, etc. that caused me to get home very late -- which in turn hurt my performance/attendance in that class.
I've had my share of traffic tickets. It really doesn't take that much time to deal with a traffic ticket. Were those tickets really causing you problems that impacted you day to day so that you couldn't perform well in school (you're allowed to miss class for court)? I doubt. I think you really need to focus on the time you spend taking care of your sister, perhaps the stress it's caused you, and how all of that has impacted your performance.
Quote : | "The entire semester "vanishes" like you never took it" |
Not true. The classes will show up on your transcript as W. I have an entire semester worth of them, they do stick out. I've never been asked about them. Then again, potential employers have never looked at my transcript until after I was hired. And they were really just for HR purposes. If they did ask, I'd probably just say that I had to take some time off from school to handle some family issues.
Quote : | "Nah, failing any class, even one, screws your GPA pretty hard." |
I guess "pretty hard" is subjective, but 1 class isn't going to make or break your gpa.
Let's do the math with a B average (roughly) student (not using +/-):
120 credit hrs. Let's assume that's 40 3hr classes.
let's say 10 A's, 24 B's, 5 C's, and 1 F. 10 A's = 120 grade points 25 B's = 225 grade points 5 C's = 30 grade points
Total = 375 grade points. 3.125 GPA.
Now, with an F:
120 credit hrs. Let's assume that's 40 3hr classes.
let's say 10 A's, 24 B's, 5 C's, and 1 F. 10 A's = 120 grade points 24 B's = 216 grade points 5 C's = 30 grade points 1 F = 0 grade points
Total = 366 grade points. 3.05 GPA.
Yup, 0.075 is a HUGE difference.
The higher your gpa before the F, the more it hurts. But even if you had 39 A's and 1 F, it goes from 4.0 to 3.9. That certainly ruins a 4.0, but it's not astronomical.
[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .]11/19/2009 5:08:57 PM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
I think the real question is how bad will an F look on a transcript? 11/19/2009 6:23:04 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
not that bad if you take the same class a semester or two from now and get a B or A. People hit speed bumps now and then. People out of school and in the real world realize this.
I know people with Ph.Ds who didn't have a problem with an F (or a few) from undergrad. I also can't think of too many employers who really scour over an undergrad transcript (maybe in some specific fields). 1 F, with otherwise good grades, and a good grade during a second run of the class isn't the end of the world. By itself, it's not going to ruin your GPA, shot at grad school, life, or illustrious career.
Ultimately, drop it if possible. If you can't, do the best you can and try to swing a D or C if possible. And if not, don't run off and commit hara-kiri. 11/19/2009 7:42:46 PM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
good luck but ill bet pictures of my tits you wont be able to get this done 11/20/2009 1:30:46 AM |
dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
its not just one class. im doing poorly in most of my classes and it is partially due to my sisters illness and having to go home randomly on school nights to help out. i got into a hole early in the semester but i didn't drop classes cause i was still optimistic about turning my grades around but then speeding tickets came up and i got into a mess and things kept getting worse from there. about last week ive had no motivation to do anything cause i am going to do bad in all of my classes. thats why i need to withdraw one if not all of my classes. 11/20/2009 2:15:03 AM |
Perlith All American 7620 Posts user info edit post |
^ Go see your advisor today. They'll be able to recommend whether to drop the entire semester or not. Stuff happens, that's life. As has been noted, most employers don't scrutinize transcripts, and if they do, dropping a semester doesn't look so bad when you explain had personal/family obligations. 11/20/2009 7:39:30 AM |
cschp New Recruit 22 Posts user info edit post |
Only you know for sure what caused your poor performance. It might be your family situation, or maybe it wasn't. Everyone has family situations in undergrad and graduate school; college doesn't happen in a vacuum free from troubles. You largely cannot control what happens to you in this life; you are fully in control of how you respond.
Another option is to talk to your professors. If you turn in a much improved performance on your finals, they might pass you. This is the best way out, but it means you better start putting maximum effort in. Make black coffee and Mountain Dew your two new best friends until Dec 17. You'll feel better about studying 24/7 until your finals than trying to sell a story to counselors. You can take the class again if need be, but keep your sense of honor intact - it will serve you much better down the road. 11/20/2009 12:21:30 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
F your advisor and professors. They can't do shit. You have a legitimate reason, and it's not going to suddenly go away, right? Go to the counseling center, they're the people who can make this happen. It seems like you'd be content withdrawing for the entire semester. Just do it, so we can see a picture of Jen's tits. 11/20/2009 2:29:58 PM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
getting the whole semester dropped isn't the problem, getting one class dropped would be very improbably (tit post worthy unlikely) 11/21/2009 11:17:47 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
you would have a better chance of getting changed to credit only, which doesnt impact your GPA, just total hours attempted
i did this with one class my 2nd semester, and the prof even gave me a pity S] 11/25/2009 11:40:17 AM |
dpat812 Starting Lineup 50 Posts user info edit post |
isn't it too late to change to credit only? or is there a way to work around it 11/26/2009 3:58:17 AM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
pretty sure its too late 11/26/2009 12:35:24 PM |
jessiejepp All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
yep, you missed that date 11/27/2009 4:48:12 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
you haven't taken care of this yet? what are you waiting on? 11/27/2009 5:08:08 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
i'll hit you in the head with a bat if you want to have selective amnesia
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 11/27/2009 6:07:48 PM |