The whole Weis thing got me thinking

Its not the job any coach would want to have, its the job that receives the most National attention, the most criticism when you lose, and the most praise when you win

So while most coaches would rather be at Florida and Texas than in South Bend, the Notre Dame job is still more important, in my opinion



1. Notre Dame Football
2. New York Yankees
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. UNC Basketball
5. Alabama Football
6. Los Angeles Lakers
7. Kentucky Basketball
8. USC Football
9. Boston Celtics
10. UCLA Basketball




Who else you got ?




- The NFL is self-cannibalizing here...even though its the country's most popular sport, each job is so important and deals with so much media pressure that they kind of hold equal weight except for Dallas

- I don't pay too much attention to hockey, but I can't seen any one of those jobs cracking this list

- For you soccer fans, I know some of the coaches for European teams could be on this list, but I left those alone because I really have no idea

- I feel like UCLA should be higher, but lots of people probably don't know who the fuck Ben Howland is, while everyone knows Roy and Cal

- No, Jaybee1200, its not...and not even really that close.

12/1/2009 11:31:18 AM

Tough list to make. I think you need another baseball team though besides the Yanks, like the Sox. I think the Steelers belong up there also.

12/1/2009 11:44:20 AM

English Premier League gets high on the list

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .]

12/1/2009 11:45:51 AM

1. New York Yankees
2. Dallas Cowboys
3. Washington Redskins
4. Notre Dame Football
5. Kentucky Basketball
6. LA Lakers
7. UNC Basketball
8. Chicago Cubs
9. STL Cardinals
10. UCLA Basketball

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM. Reason : adfadsf]

12/1/2009 11:48:02 AM

I'm gonna say Yankees should be #1.

12/1/2009 11:49:05 AM

Quote :

"the most criticism when you lose"

where are the Panthers and Wolfpack on your lists?

12/1/2009 11:49:27 AM

The Toronto Maple Leafs and the Montreal Canadiens have got to be on the list. Those two teams have an entire nation hanging on their every move. The Leafs have a television channel dedicated to them. You have hundreds of media personnel following you and the team around everywhere you go. A lot of guys can't handle it. I'd say those are bigger than a lot of the teams on your list because in the US there is such a diversity of sports that it's difficult to have a situation like in Canada where nearly all of the focus is on hockey.

The same goes for European soccer. Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, etc. The pressure is on those clubs to win titles every single year without fail, and they are followed religiously around the world.

12/1/2009 11:52:11 AM

We should keep this topic to American sports teams IMO

It is hard to quantify international teams as most of us don't follow them at all or very closely. I don't doubt the Maple Leafs are important in Canada, but I couldn't name one player on the team or anything about them.

12/1/2009 11:56:14 AM

You have notre dame way too high. They can only bring in smart guys.

12/1/2009 11:57:43 AM

Why would the cowboys coaching job be more prestigious than the steelers or pats??

12/1/2009 11:58:00 AM

^^^Exactly, which I why I gave the caveats about soccer and hockey

Everyone here knows football, basketball and baseball, so they're the only ones we can rank with any accuracy

You coming in here jacking off to Sir Alex Ferguson isn't going to change that


^ The Pats have only been relevant in the past decade...the Steelers are like the Packers in that they're very popular and very successful, but the their small hometown market precludes them from ever being at the top of the ladder

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 12:00 PM. Reason : x]

12/1/2009 11:58:28 AM

steelers aren't on the list because they only change coaches once every other decade

12/1/2009 12:01:16 PM

If the scope is football, basketball, and baseball, I think it goes:

1. New York Yankees
2. Dallas Cowboys
3. Alabama football
4. LA Lakers
5. Boston Red Sox
6. Notre Dame football
7. Pittsburgh Steelers
8. Chicago Cubs
9. UNC basketball
10. Washington Redskins

12/1/2009 12:01:24 PM

Are we talking about pressure or prestige ??

I dont think they are really related ... yankees coaching job would be highest pressure because they spend more than anyone to make their team the best ... I dont really see it as prestigious. Same with NotreDame football ... I think they have pressure because Catholics care about *their team*, and theres lots of them ...

And I think your logic is backwards ... the teams that receive the most praise when they win are the teams that dominate when NOT expected to ...

I dont see the yankees as any more prestigious than cubs/redsox ... but definitely more pressure than any job out there in all of sports ... dallas cowboys being a close second in terms of pressure.

12/1/2009 12:03:21 PM

yeah, the cubs and red sox who had almost 100 years without a championship are as prestigious as the yankees. the yankees are easily the most prestigious, you can probably name 4-5 yankee managers off the top of your head, and unless you really follow another team probably can't do that. i hate them, and i sure as hell wouldn't (like if i actually had other offers) take the job, but the yankees are #1 in baseball fo sho

12/1/2009 12:17:00 PM

If notre dame was the most prestigious coaching job in all of sports, then they wouldn't even need a coaching search.

Much like Roy Williams doesn't have to recruit. He just chooses the best high school players that fill a need on the roster. You think at this point in his career he has to exert himself much when it comes to recruiting?

12/1/2009 12:24:47 PM

^^^ Prestige creates pressure

I have no idea how you can say you don't consider the Yankee job as prestigious. It might be the definition of what we are talking about. They are the most dominant team in the history of American sports.

I don't agree with that statement about the underdog doing well to generate praise. That doesn't matter at all. If the Cowboys were supposed to do well and were living up to that hype, it doesn't matter if KC is 10-1, the Cowboys would get more love.

12/1/2009 12:33:16 PM

1. Michigan Wolverines

12/1/2009 12:42:21 PM

I think most americans (and non yankees fans) understand the reason for yankee success ... they just throw a pile of money out there, and bring in the best players... Its not prestigious if its "rigged" or if its simply a walk in the park. Prestige is created from a culture and a tradition. I find it hard to throw the word prestige at ANY major league clubs these days, in any sports, since its not tradition and prestige that bring good players to those teams, but rather simply money...

Maybe I am playing with words, or argueing semantics, but yankees past is not the same as yankees present. I just dont buy into the hype. If I buy a $100k dog, and my neighbor buys a $100 dog, and I did so just for the purpose of winning all dog races, and he did not want to spend as much ... well... I would expect to win ... yes there would be expectation there. But just because I go on to win races with my neighbor for 20 strait years, it doesnt make my brand prestigious ... dominant yes ... not prestigious.

12/1/2009 12:50:08 PM

So now the truth surfaces.

You're a hater so you don't want to give credit where credit is due.

Free agency is a fairly modern invention so does that mean that the Yankees first 18 titles mean nothing?

FTR I am an Indians fan and not a Yankee fan, but trying to make the argument that the Yankees aren't in their own category is just flat out dumb.

12/1/2009 12:57:29 PM

the yankees also have probably the largest fan base of anybody, ever. even if they're not really yankee fans, people all over the world wear the NY hat. Yes, I hate the Yankees too, and I'll steal this from Jim Rome, cheering for them is like cheering for the Casino to make money in Vegas, but they still get the most exposure, have some of the best players that have every played the game (past and present, even if they bought them), and are the most prestigious

12/1/2009 1:26:35 PM

NC State Cross Country and Bass Fishing

Oh...and West Canaan High School Football. Must be impossible to follow in Bud Kilmer's foot steps.

12/1/2009 1:44:46 PM

Quote :

"If notre dame was the most prestigious coaching job in all of sports, then they wouldn't even need a coaching search."

This morning on 620 someone said 10 coaches turned down the job last go round.

12/1/2009 1:45:48 PM

You left off Duke, UNC, and Kansas men's basketball.

12/1/2009 1:49:42 PM

take your fucking elmo head off and read faggot, UNC has been on everybody's list, I'm pretty sure nobody's going to want to coach at Duke after K leaves, and Kansas isn't in the same league as kentucky and UNC

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM. Reason : and UCLA]

12/1/2009 1:56:56 PM

Quote :

"steelers aren't on the list because they only change coaches once every other decade"

Shouldn't that make it MORE prestigious?

12/1/2009 2:04:01 PM

Only one college basketball team should be in the top 10, b/c outside of NC and KY, no one cares about it until March.

Unfortunately, that team is UNC.

12/1/2009 2:12:46 PM

http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25-highest-paid-sports-coaches-in-the-world/

EASILY thread

12/1/2009 2:19:47 PM

EASILY thread fail

you haven't even read through this thread I see

12/1/2009 2:23:59 PM

Quote :

"Shouldn't that make it MORE prestigious?"

more normal measures of prestige level, i'd agree
but not according to the measures laid out by slave, at least i wouldn't think they would make a list with those requirements

12/1/2009 2:24:29 PM

y'all that have differing opinions should make a list instead of just commenting on someone else's

12/1/2009 2:28:39 PM

Maybe not the most prestigous, but the safest coaching job is the Colts. As long as Peyton is making all the calls and winning no one cares who the coach is

12/1/2009 2:42:06 PM

Why is Notre Dame on that list? Or Alabama Football for that matter?

You also forgot Duke Basketball.

12/1/2009 3:38:22 PM

Charlotte Catholic High School FOOTBALL

12/1/2009 3:52:36 PM

1. Michigan Football

12/1/2009 4:11:52 PM

1.Toronto Argonauts

12/2/2009 9:08:25 PM

1. Carolina Cobras

12/2/2009 9:11:39 PM

Quote :

"I'm pretty sure nobody's going to want to coach at Duke after K leaves"

Duke should not be in the top 10 most prestigious coaching jobs in all of sports, but I am pretty sure that there will be a few people that will want to coach a program that is top 5 all-time in wins, plays on national tv every game, has great facilities, and a strong national reputation.

if you mean no one will want to be the next coach right after K then I agree with you more but I am sure they will be able to get someone that wants to coach there.

12/2/2009 9:20:26 PM

2. Greensboro Grasshoppers

12/2/2009 9:54:57 PM

it's at least a 50/50 (probably more than that) that the next Duke coach is going to be one of those guys sitting on the bench right next to K.

Or Dawkins/Capel

12/2/2009 9:55:53 PM

^it won't be one of the guys next to him now if they don't have head coaching experience. dawkins/capel look like the two most likely right now

12/2/2009 9:59:41 PM

Yankees #1? Not even close


only reason its up there is because of what Torre did... Dallas fucking Green didnt have the most prestigious position in sports...

I would hve something like:

1. Notre Dame Football
2. Alabama Football
3. Michigan Football
4. Dallas Cowboys
5. Kentucky Basketball
6. UNC Basketball
7. USC Football
8. New York Yankees
9. Boston Red Sox
10. Detroit Red Wings


[Edited on December 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM. Reason : f]

12/2/2009 10:09:05 PM

But Bob fucking Davie did?

12/2/2009 10:17:21 PM

^^ You're saying the top 3 positions in all of sports in the United States are college football?

That is ridiculous.

The Yankees job is so much more valued and cared about than any of those top 3 programs you listed

[Edited on December 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason : asdfasdf]

12/2/2009 10:44:25 PM

We aren't talking about dollar value.. And cared about?? Alabama fans are psychotic

12/2/2009 11:10:10 PM

and there isnt much coaching in baseball... so its not a huge/prestigious deal

12/2/2009 11:11:23 PM

^^ I like college football and all but that's just ridiculous. A team like the Washington Redskins, Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees and Steelers have about 100x the following of those schools. They get way more criticism, praise, articles written about them, ESPN time, etc and it really doesn't compare. Outside of the South the importance of college football falls way off. The US as a whole cares a whole lot more about professional sports.

I thought you were supposed to be objective, right?

Also, dollar value and prestige have some sort of correlation. You don't become the richest for no reason.

[Edited on December 3, 2009 at 2:04 AM. Reason : x]

12/3/2009 2:01:31 AM

I think Notre Dame's coaching job is very prestigious, but it is a job I don't think many would want to have. They are expected to compete with all the great schools, but they are kind of at a disadvantage when it comes to recruiting (IMO). Most of the really big name schools are located in warmer climates that tend to attract college atheletes (I understand this is a very broad generalization and definitely not true in some cases.) I guess what I am saying is it is much more likely for a great athelete to leave Indiana to go to California or Florida than it is for someone to leave a "nice" state to go play in Indiana. Add in to that, it is a Catholic school, and many protestant or even agnostics/aethiests may be turned off by that. I think coaches have a tougher time attracting recruits, and it is much tougher for them to win. Notre Dame was a big deal when we were kids (OK when I was a kid) but all most high school seniors see is a team that has had a bunch of different coaches, a huge bowl losing streak (until Hawaii), and perinneal disappointing seasons.

12/3/2009 4:42:45 AM

ND's recruiting class rankings since Weis arrived:
2005 - #10 (according to scout.com, the other classes are according to espn)
2006 - #5
2007 - #8
2008 - #9
2009 - #14

Clearly they're having problems recruiting

12/3/2009 8:06:51 AM

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12/3/2009 8:58:07 AM