Titans

12/22/2009 11:10:06 AM

This is what happens when you let Kerry Collins play quarterback

12/22/2009 11:13:51 AM

12/22/2009 11:15:51 AM

One of the NFC East teams.

Same as every year.

/thread.

12/22/2009 11:32:53 AM

Haha

12/22/2009 11:59:56 AM

Yeah, same as last year.... like when the Patriots were 11-5 and arguably the best team in football.

12/22/2009 12:27:14 PM

Not with Matt Cassel, no one was making that argument

12/22/2009 12:31:16 PM

12/22/2009 1:00:13 PM

I want to say that this happens every year...but it really has been a crazy fucking year.

You've got teams like the Steelers and the Giants who everyone thought were two of the best teams in the league the first 5 or 6 weeks...now they are struggling to make the playoffs. The Broncos started off 6-0, and they still have a really good shot to miss the playoffs. Of course we all know about the Chargers. Niners and Falcons started off well and won't make the playoffs...same goes for the Texans and Jets (don't think they'll make it). Ravens looked dead in the water 6 weeks ago, now they're likely in. We had the two undefeateds for so long. Patriots all over the place. 8 million 7-7 teams with two weeks to play.

Just seems like this year has been EXTRA crazy.

12/22/2009 1:05:20 PM

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"One of the NFC East AFC South teams. Same as every year. /thread."

The NFC East isn't the best division, the AFC South is the best and it has been for a while.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM. Reason : ]

12/22/2009 1:31:46 PM

I disagree

The Colts are the best team of the 8, but I think the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants are 2-3-4

12/22/2009 1:44:09 PM

^

12/22/2009 1:50:25 PM

The NFC East is def talent loaded but the teams are so erratic each year. One week any of those teams can look like super bowl contenders, then the next week look like garbage.

I like the Eagles this year with what they got on offense, but the Giants have major issues even though they looked sharp last night(or the 'Skins are just that bad and this could certainly be the case), and the Cowboys are a poorly coached team in my opinion so I have trouble buying into them ever unless that part changes. Miles Austin has been a savior for them Roy Williams is a joke.

At least 2 or 3 of the current 7-7 teams(Miami, Steelers, Titans, hell even the Jags) in the AFC that aren't going to get in are better than whoever gets left out of the NFC East this year, whether it is the Giants or Cowboys.

12/22/2009 2:04:24 PM

obviously the steelers have talent on their team, but any team who loses to the chiefs, raiders, & browns doesn't belong in the conversation of "best anything"

12/22/2009 2:17:29 PM

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"One of the NFC East AFC teams. Same as every year."

12/22/2009 3:04:48 PM

^chyea, AFC east for sure.

12/22/2009 3:17:51 PM

all of the AFC south teams have a chance to end with .500+


that's the hardest division in footyball, sir.

12/22/2009 3:20:30 PM

Panthers!

12/22/2009 3:42:26 PM

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"The NFC East isn't the best division, the AFC South is the best and it has been for a while."

NFC East has 31 wins so far this year, AFC South has 35. Take away the Colts and the Eagles, and now you're looking at 21 and 21. Essentially, the only thing making the AFC South "the best" is Peyton Manning because we all know they would have lost at least half their games without him.

All the other divisions have either 27 or 28, with the exception of NFC West at a miserable 21 (when all is said and done, each division gets at least 12 wins on head-to-heads alone, so that's especially awful).

If the Giants miss the playoffs it will be a shame...there was no excuse for losing to Denver or Arizona, and the San Diego and second Philly game both should have been wins if it weren't for a few mistakes. This team could have been 12-2 and on their way to playing in the Manning Bowl.

This could also be the first time Eli has played a full season and not gone to the playoffs.

[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 2:32 AM. Reason : -]

12/23/2009 2:30:13 AM

speaking of Manning, John Clayton said he should get MVP and Coach of the Year this year hahahah

12/23/2009 2:50:07 AM

wish i could say the steelers

12/23/2009 3:16:42 AM

89...bottom line

12/23/2009 3:25:23 AM

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"NFC East has 31 wins so far this year, AFC South has 35. Take away the Colts and the Eagles, and now you're looking at 21 and 21. Essentially, the only thing making the AFC South "the best" is Peyton Manning because we all know they would have lost at least half their games without him."

Well if you took the star QB off of almost any team that doesn't have a decent backup they would lose half of their games. If the Chargers had to play with Volek or the Saints had to play with Mark Brunell they would lose far more of their games. And both of those guys are better than Sorgi.

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" If the Giants miss the playoffs it will be a shame...there was no excuse for losing to Denver or Arizona, and the San Diego and second Philly game both should have been wins if it weren't for a few mistakes. This team could have been 12-2 and on their way to playing in the Manning Bowl."

They also could have easily lost to the Falcons that went to OT and both Cowboys games if not for critical mistakes.

So they could be 5-9 as easily as they could be 12-2

[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 4:18 AM. Reason : ]

12/23/2009 3:58:00 AM

Quote :

"the only thing making the AFC South "the best" is Peyton Manning because we all know they would have lost at least half their games without him."

good logic here. Supporting your argument by taking away the best player in the conference(maybe the league?) which obviously should be factored into the strength of that conference, then comparing it to the other?

12/23/2009 9:26:30 AM

No he is saying that without Peyton the AFC South is just mediocre at best. When have the Jaguars or Texans been consistently good other than the start of this season? The Titans were a wash for a while and had a good surge last year and late this season. I definitely believe the NFC East is one of the most competitive divisions, and followed closely by the NFC South (moreso last season than this).

12/23/2009 9:58:26 AM

^Exactly. Regardless, no one can deny that any head to head game between any two NFC East teams is better than any other random inter-divisional match up you could get.

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"Well if you took the star QB off of almost any team that doesn't have a decent backup they would lose half of their games. If the Chargers had to play with Volek or the Saints had to play with Mark Brunell they would lose far more of their games. And both of those guys are better than Sorgi."

I'm saying put in ANYONE besides maybe Favre, Brady, and Brees and the Colts don't get all those wins, especially looking at how many times they were down late. Even with the QBs I just listed, no one comes from behind like Peyton.

12/23/2009 10:34:37 AM

THE Miami Shark's

12/23/2009 4:11:34 PM

The Rams looked really good to me this year. They really showed me a lot down the stretch. I've seen nearly all of their games this year (I think I missed a couple of preseason games and like one early regular season game). They have all the pieces in place to be a dynasty for years to come, but they need to grow into it still. They will mature with time. They also didn't benefit from a lot of bad calls from the refs this season and several bad calls that completely shifted moment away from the Rams in what looked like sure victories. Marc Bulger threw several passes this year that would just make a grown man's dick get hard.

[Edited on December 23, 2009 at 5:14 PM. Reason : []

12/23/2009 5:11:14 PM

But the AFC south does have Manning. Dumb logic

but he's right. NFC East is the best.

12/24/2009 5:53:24 PM

^^ Very good

12/25/2009 9:09:29 AM

Cleveland Browns. W/o a doubt. They had the best punter in the league, until he got injured. Zastudil is now a household name. Did you see how he single-handedly beat Buffalo earlier this year?

And, they've had all their success this year w/o even having to trade for Lebron James.

I'm just saying...

12/25/2009 10:21:23 PM

12/27/2009 2:15:05 PM

12/27/2009 3:37:44 PM

Giants

12/27/2009 3:38:23 PM

fuck maybe it really is the panthers

[Edited on December 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM. Reason : k]

12/27/2009 3:38:31 PM

12/27/2009 6:35:54 PM