http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=555668

bump that if you want, but it doesnt matter

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spider-Man-4-Cancelled-Reboot-Planned-Without-Raimi-Or-Maguire-16505.html

fuck this shit

1/11/2010 11:19:43 PM

good?

1/11/2010 11:22:35 PM

no, this is bad

real bad

1/11/2010 11:29:01 PM

i don't know

still sounds pretty good

1/11/2010 11:44:33 PM

good

spiderman 3 was complete shit

1/11/2010 11:46:24 PM

very good, the series needed a reset. had nowhere interesting to go after they casually killed off hobogoblin/harry.

1/12/2010 12:05:09 AM

well raimi already kind of sold out with spiderman 3 but then again spiderman 2 was awesome so maybe he realized his error and really wanted to turn things around, oh well we'll never know

1/12/2010 1:50:46 AM

Don't like the idea of a reboot this soon.

1/12/2010 2:06:20 AM

i've yet to see any of the spiderman movies

1/12/2010 2:07:12 AM

^ 1 and 2 are great. don't bother with 3.

1/12/2010 2:27:10 AM

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"^ 1 and 2 are great is alright. don't bother with 3."

[Edited on January 12, 2010 at 3:08 AM. Reason : $$$]

1/12/2010 3:08:03 AM

The series needs a reboot, but it is far too soon. I wouldn't mind a really dark/gritty Venom appearance, especially since no one has bothered to include him in a Spider-man movie yet. Yeah, I know what I said.

I'm not sure how they would even introduce the Venom character. Secret Wars is out, maybe the Ultimate Universe back story? Even then I'm not sure you could introduce Venom in the first movie if the reboot ends up being yet another origin story.

1/12/2010 7:40:53 AM

I heard they forced Rami to put Venom in the 3rd movie and he was pretty pissed about it. They tried to throw way to much at you in that one, which seriously hurt the franchise. I also heard that because the studio made him do this, Rami purposely did a shit job on the 3rd movie knowing it would make the $$$ anyways.

Venom definitely needs to be done much better. The only thing that needs to stay the same the next time around is J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

1/12/2010 7:56:05 AM

Heath Ledger will NEVER work as the joker!! fail!!

Don't knock it until you see what it becomes.

1/12/2010 7:59:42 AM

maybe they were planning on doing a venom/carnage story line

that would(ve) been cool as hell

1/12/2010 8:03:50 AM

i never likes maguire as spiderman

i never liked him period though, honestly

1/12/2010 8:34:53 AM

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"well raimi already kind of sold out with spiderman 3 "

Spider Man 3 was far more a Raimi movie than Spiderman 1 or 2. It always seemed like, to me, they gave him too much creative control.

1/12/2010 8:44:11 AM

A reboot this soon is unnecessary. I've already seen too many origins stories. If they do end up doing Venom, they could go the route of the animated series and have the black suit find its way to a space shuttle that crash lands in NY.

1/12/2010 8:58:48 AM

yeah too many origin stories and the spiderman series is still too fresh. Not to mention the almost endless number of comic book franchises that have been greenlit for film that i'd want to see first before seeing another Spiderman.

1/12/2010 9:05:53 AM

Oh yeah and maybe this means that we'll see new Spider-Man in the impending Avengers movie alongside Robert Downey Jr. and Ed Norton?

1/12/2010 9:08:42 AM

^due to the first three being owned by Sony Pictures, and now the chance for Marvel to produce and own it out right?

That would be pretty cool.



and if that's the case, use the Avengers film as the launch point for a new Spiderman franchise.

[Edited on January 12, 2010 at 9:12 AM. Reason : add]

1/12/2010 9:11:21 AM

There's a reason why there a million trilogies and hardly any quadrilogies

3 is the perfect number for a franchise

You have the establishing movie, the second one where the bad guy gets the upper hand, and the 3rd one where the good guy faces his biggest threat yet but finally emerges victorious

Its a tried and true formula, and I'm glad they're not fucking with it

1/12/2010 9:18:37 AM

I guess Kirsten Dunst is out too if they're going to reboot the franchise.

oh they say that in the link posted. oh well.

[Edited on January 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .]

1/12/2010 9:33:25 AM

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"^ 1 and 2 are great is alright not as big of a steaming pile of shit as the other 2. don't bother with 3."

1/12/2010 9:37:16 AM

as much as i love spiderman and would love for another movie to come out, i agree that it is too soon for a reboot

1/12/2010 10:57:44 AM

wayyy too soon for a reboot. what they should do is stop selling spiderman 3, offer to buyback every copy in existence, and pretend it never happened. once this is done they should move forward with a movie that gives venom his due.

will new spiderman have web cartridges!?!

1/12/2010 11:48:16 AM

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"3 is the perfect number for a franchise You have the establishing movie, the second one where the bad guy gets the upper hand, and the 3rd one where the good guy faces his biggest threat yet but finally emerges victorious"

That formula works for a good trilogy, but not necessarily a franchise. Lord of the Rings, Back to the Future, and Star Wars give you great conclusions at the end, stories all wrapped up. Spiderman does not fit the formula. Each movie should be looked at individually, because as much as all three suck IMO, they are even worse as a collection. The only things that carry through from one to the next is the crush on MJ and the struggle with Harry.

James Bond is a great example of a franchise that can keep going, possibly Pirates of the Caribbean depending on how the next one goes. Although at some points a storyline carries from one to the next, most of them are generally disconnected.

1/12/2010 12:10:17 PM

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"Just as the hyphen as a rhetorical device indicates that the 'Spider' and the 'Man' are coequal elements in 'Spider-Man,' so, too, does the separation of the 'Iron' and the 'Man' in 'Iron Man' tell us something. The space between the words at issue informs us that--despite an increasing trend toward union of the suit and the man--Stark and his suit are not one. Stark's humanity separates him from being a mere piece of machinery."

hooksaw

message_topic.aspx?topic=436222&page=3

Please don't forget the hyphen. Thank you.

1/12/2010 12:33:47 PM

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"well raimi already kind of sold out with spiderman 3"

wat?

1/12/2010 12:56:05 PM

it's just like the comics

every few years they get rebooted in some form and fashion too

i hope this reboot includes clones

1/12/2010 1:07:47 PM

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"3 is the perfect number for a franchise"

Rocky IV laughs at your logic

1/12/2010 4:01:43 PM

Spider man

1/12/2010 4:03:58 PM

Spiderman the high school years? Yuck. That sounds terrible.

I did like Zodiac though, so maybe the script has a chance to be good.

1/12/2010 4:11:22 PM

^6 it's funny that in that thread we ended up agreeing about your point, but since then (in the comics anyway) tony stark has physically bonded with his armor.

1/12/2010 4:30:25 PM

^^^^^

ummm well he pretty much turned dark spiderman/venom in to a joke so that kids of all ages could watch it/ reach the largest audience + he crammed every gimmick in to the movie that he could or perhaps that the producers forced him to + the movie made a shit ton of money

that equals selling out to me

(what's funny is that nolan took the gamble and made dark knight an actual dark movie and still made more money with the dark knight)

[Edited on January 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM. Reason : k]

1/12/2010 5:37:43 PM

For the love of Christ--it's spelled "Spider-Man," goddammit!!!1

WHY DO YOU TORMENT ME?!!!1

1/12/2010 7:08:39 PM

i want my gritty, rated R, Carnage-plot spider-man. not the origin story again. dammit.

or the clone-saga. HAHA that'd be terrible.

[Edited on January 13, 2010 at 12:25 AM. Reason : hyphen]

1/13/2010 12:23:15 AM

you guys are cosmic super fags.

I cant believe I own SPIDERMAN #1 and the wedding issue from amazing spiderman.


Even worse, i have 3-d Marvel trading cards from the mid 90s which I probably spent real american dollars on.

But you dorkasaurus Rex's are talking about the Spiderman trilogy as if the first movie wasnt homo enough for you to stop watching them.


And then some supernerd comes in and compares them to Harry Potter.


Get lives, googling "cumshots album #13" is more entertaining than microwaving pizza and watching Spiderman 3 outtakes in HDDVD with Kristen Dunst.


By the way she is ugly, I bet even her cunt hair would agree.

1/13/2010 12:33:25 AM

^marvel trading cards are awesome. i still have all mine

1/13/2010 12:44:11 AM

Quote :

""Just as the hyphen as a rhetorical device indicates that the 'Spider' and the 'Man' are coequal elements in 'Spider-Man,' so, too, does the separation of the 'Iron' and the 'Man' in 'Iron Man' tell us something. The space between the words at issue informs us that--despite an increasing trend toward union of the suit and the man--Stark and his suit are not one. Stark's humanity separates him from being a mere piece of machinery.""

ok, we get it, now get over yourself

1/13/2010 9:06:46 AM

^^^

1/13/2010 9:14:06 AM

i'm glad i was reading comics during the carnage era

that was some edgy stuff considering how young i was

that dude just killed everyone because he loved doing it

all the blades he made with his suit were bad ass

1/13/2010 11:29:32 AM

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"The next Spider-Man film will be a reboot of the franchise, not a continuation of series Sam Raimi created back in 2002 — in a move similar to Batman Begins restarting the Batman franchise seven years after Batman and Robin underwhelmed fans and critics. This time around, the series will place Peter Parker in a more contemporary setting, as a teenager battling today’s issues. The decision to go with an origin story stemmed from Sony developing two Spidey projects simultaneously. According to studio insiders, Sony was working on both Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 and the new origin story from James Vanderbilt, who wrote Zodiac. The original plan was to keep the Spider-Man gang together for one last film in 2011 before rebooting the series in 2012. When it became clear that Raimi would not be able to make the summer 2011 release date planned for Spider-Man 4, the studio opted to scrap Spider-Man 4 altogether, and focus solely on the series reboot. Who will helm the new film is anyone’s guess but with the studio interested in a more gritty, contemporary redo of the series, they are certainly focused on younger directors making waves in Hollywood. One name that has popped up is Marc Webb, the man behind (500) Day of Summer. He was previously in discussions with the studio to take over Moneyball, but that job went to Bennett Miller. Michael Bay has also previously expressed interest in taking over the Spider-Man franchise and Seabiscuit director Gary Ross worked on one of the drafts of Spider-Man 4 and is said to be a huge fan of the comic book series. "

1/13/2010 1:45:19 PM

Great, they're getting Beans from Even Stevens to play Peter Parker



Definitely gonna suck

1/13/2010 2:02:35 PM

Seems like a total waste of time to do another origin story.

1/13/2010 2:13:24 PM

i don't know how they have been drawing peter parker lately but i always remembered him as a dark haired dude

i know he sucks but freddie prinze jr kinda did look like him in the comics

1/13/2010 2:20:01 PM

i thought tobey mcguire looked the part of peter parker, i just dont like tobey mcguire or the spiderman movies that much

but i agree, another origin story is just wasting everyone's time.

1/13/2010 2:54:31 PM

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"ok, we get it, now get over yourself"

poopface

Okay, but it's going to be hard getting over me.

THE HYPHEN: NEVER FORGET!

1/13/2010 3:24:21 PM

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"Rocky IV laughs at your logic"

How? Rocky IV was beyond awful...I never stop being amazed that people actually like that abomination.

1/13/2010 3:26:55 PM

^ What about Rambo?

1/13/2010 3:30:04 PM