are they any good? she wants one that is 1 or 2 years old.


I don't know if i'm a fan or not.

2/24/2010 5:25:18 PM

http://www.city-data.com/forum/automotive/382521-hybrids-whats-downside-owning-one.html

2/24/2010 5:36:14 PM

i drove one on a short road trip

it's a decent little car

feels much more like a midsize inside than a compact

handling and pickup are nothing special, but not awful

it's a little buzzy at highway speed because the engine is so small

can't comment on cargo space because it was a one day trip and we didn't pack anything so i didn't even look back there

2/24/2010 5:39:07 PM

how about a diesel VW?

[Edited on February 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM. Reason : !]

2/24/2010 6:24:24 PM

^

[Edited on February 24, 2010 at 7:04 PM. Reason : http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=589067]

2/24/2010 7:04:31 PM

its going to be expensive at 1 to 2 years old. i would buy a prius over a brokeswagen diesel any day of the week. vwmsj.

2/24/2010 7:37:21 PM

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"vwmsj."

2/24/2010 7:53:17 PM

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"vwmsj."

2/24/2010 7:54:41 PM

bang for the buck isn't even close to justified, in my opinion

2/24/2010 7:56:30 PM

lol, sucks for you. have fun with that.

2/24/2010 10:53:25 PM

If she's buying it to save money, she's got the wrong idea.

It's much more cost effective to get something much cheaper that gets almost as good of gas mileage.

A Toyota Yaris, for example, costs around $12k and gets 29/36 mpg.

A Toyota Prius costs $23k and gets 48/51 mpg.

To make up that extra $11,000 you'd have to drive a LOT of miles for a LONG time. The Yaris is a much better deal for fuel economy and overall cost.

Then again, if she's just driving it to make a statement and be an environmentalist, the Prius is perfect.

2/24/2010 11:03:48 PM

thanks for hurting the planet by buying one.

what do batteries do after countless recharges.

2/24/2010 11:15:28 PM

^^+1 1,000,000

you would have to drive approximately 72k miles in the Prius before you broke even with the $11k premium. Get a smaller vehicle if economy is an issue. Since there's "concern with Toyota" going on right now, if the Yaris or Carolla doesn't appeal, there's always the Honda Fit and Civic to consider.



[Edited on February 24, 2010 at 11:18 PM. Reason : ^]

2/24/2010 11:15:39 PM

72k miles isn't far. Try to make the same argument having driven both cars. It isnt the same....at all.

Look, i want to be a hard ass like the rest of you. Hell I even want to believe the bogus shit spit out by the CNW. As an engineer i took 3 minutes of my time to actually look through their "data". I'm not going to spill the beans. Read it. It's.....yeah.....

2/24/2010 11:51:32 PM

CNW? wat?

2/25/2010 12:21:19 AM

it's a heavily quoted document (for any kind of hybrid bashing) that is full of off the wall data. it honestly looks randomized to me.

2/25/2010 12:30:44 AM

tell her that you would worry too much about the car accelerating uncontrollably

2/25/2010 8:09:10 AM

she doesn't need a car to go from the bed to the kitchen. tell her to run instead.

2/25/2010 8:38:30 AM

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"72k miles isn't far."

Depends on the driver. I put about 5-10k per year on a car. It would definitely take me a long time.

2/25/2010 8:40:19 AM

i do that in a month, son

2/25/2010 9:18:46 AM

Yeah I've only put about 12k on my RX-8 in the past two years. It has 33000 miles and is a 2005. My work commute is 100 miles a week, and I don't drive any more than 10 miles extra on the weekend. I also bike to work during the nice weather.

2/25/2010 9:28:12 AM

^I drove 23,000 miles last year between my two cars. Do you never go out of town?

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"Then again, if she's just driving it to make a statement and be an environmentalist, the Prius is perfect."

Not really. If you're concerned about raping the environment (mining precious metals), energy consumption, and CO2 footprints most hybrids are crappy choices.

I'm not really concerned with any of those things, I just dislike hybrids.

[Edited on February 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM. Reason : k]

2/25/2010 9:29:54 AM

damn i really want to make a parody thread "so the wife want a damn penis"

2/25/2010 10:23:10 AM

i mean in theory you could and then just lock it

2/25/2010 11:03:01 AM

Even if you set the fuel economy aside, a Prius is still a nicer car than a Corolla, and much nicer than a Yaris.

2/25/2010 11:24:32 AM

but not a Camry

2/25/2010 11:27:06 AM

^ camrys kill people

2/25/2010 1:26:20 PM

TDI

2/25/2010 1:53:29 PM

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"vwmsj"

2/25/2010 1:54:02 PM

No clue what that means...

2/25/2010 2:02:35 PM

likewise...

2/25/2010 2:54:44 PM

Quote :

"Then again, if she's just driving it to make a statement and be an environmentalist, the Prius is perfect"

Quote :

"Not really. If you're concerned about raping the environment (mining precious metals), energy consumption, and CO2 footprints most hybrids are crappy choices. I'm not really concerned with any of those things, I just dislike hybrids."

Regardless of the factual statistics on the Prius, it still is the car of choice for people that just want to appear like they are conscious about the environment, which is why celebrities drive them too.

2/25/2010 3:29:28 PM

Yeah.


Also, I heard an Obama bumper sticker is a no cost dealer installed option

2/25/2010 3:54:32 PM

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"feels much more like a midsize inside than a compact"

Probably because every Prius since 2001 isn't a compact car.

Quote :

"It's much more cost effective to get something much cheaper that gets almost as good of gas mileage. A Toyota Yaris, for example, costs around $12k and gets 29/36 mpg. A Toyota Prius costs $23k and gets 48/51 mpg."

A Yaris and a Prius aren't comparable cars.

2/25/2010 5:04:12 PM

i just noticed smores cant do math .

2/25/2010 5:11:40 PM

tell her you want a damn sandwich

2/25/2010 5:20:52 PM

Oh shit! lmfao. I was reading this while also doing my ECE 200 circuits class hw. somehow I think a previous calculation got included in my math to determine how far you'd have to go to make up the $$$..

The appropriate number is roughly 3800 gallons of gasoline. Given that the Prius can go an estimated 48mpg, that's ~183,000 miles. Not 72k.

amirite?

2/25/2010 5:23:18 PM

.......i sure hope you did better on your ECE200 homework

2/25/2010 5:43:39 PM

Woman driving.

You failed before you even got started.

2/25/2010 6:53:26 PM

Quote :

"The appropriate number is roughly 3800 gallons of gasoline. Given that the Prius can go an estimated 48mpg, that's ~183,000 miles. Not 72k. "

The batteries won't last that long, so a simple cost analysis won't work.

2/25/2010 10:49:44 PM

^ which basically means that it's worse to go the prius route in terms of overall financial savings.

2/25/2010 10:59:08 PM

TDI

2/25/2010 11:20:27 PM

he should start with algebra and work his way into more variables.

2/25/2010 11:34:58 PM

2/26/2010 12:17:52 AM

FWIW look up the rated service life of the batteries in a prius (mileage), then divide that by mpg. Next divide the cost of the battery by that figure. Then add that figure to the cost of a gallon of gas and see how efficient you think the vehicle really is.

This is only one thing to think about in addition the the premium you will pay to own one. You'd be better off with a civic imo.

If she's trying to be environmentally conscious... well lookup the battery production plants.

If she says anything about it being safe ><

Don't forget all the smug she'll release into the environment after she gets one.

[Edited on February 26, 2010 at 12:22 AM. Reason : smug]

2/26/2010 12:21:24 AM

If you wanna be environmentally conscious get a bmw 335d

it's better for the environment than that hybrid and gets pretty decent fuel mileage... and it happens to be a pretty nice car

of course you gotta spend $texas for it...

2/26/2010 12:51:57 AM

Toyota claims the batteries should last the life of the vehicle and they offer an 8 year warranty iirc. They're around $3k if you do have to replace them, but unless you're planning on putting 250,000 miles on the thing it's unlikely to be an issue.

2/26/2010 12:56:10 AM

Quote :

"TDI"

2/26/2010 9:09:51 AM

Aren't there tax credits on these or some other kind of federal compensation?

2/26/2010 9:43:11 AM

1900 on the Jettas. Not sure on the Prius.

But there's a night and day difference b/t the quality in the Prius vs. Jetta and not much price difference.

2/26/2010 9:54:11 AM