...and it doesn't matter because they're all great.

Ramones
T. Rex
AC/DC
The Strokes
CCR

2/27/2010 9:53:31 AM

CCR?

2/27/2010 10:06:43 AM

i guess if that's the case, then all Eagles songs sound the same

and so do CSNY songs

2/27/2010 10:08:08 AM

My favorite Eagles moment is Teenage Jail into The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks because of how badass TJ is and how cheesy TGDWN is starting off.

2/27/2010 10:11:33 AM

holy fuck do not talk about the eagles in this thread

this thread is about GOOD bands

debate the fact that there is a "ccr sound" if you must

but leave the eagles out of this

2/27/2010 10:14:39 AM

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"CCR?"

AC/DC?*

For my part...Olivia Tremor Control, The Stone Roses, The Beach Boys (to some extent)

More recently: The xx, The Hold Steady

2/27/2010 10:15:09 AM

Eagles are a good band. "Take It Easy" is great.

I would say they fit this better than AC/DC does.

2/27/2010 10:18:13 AM

The National

2/27/2010 10:19:45 AM

Also, Joy Division.

2/27/2010 10:19:58 AM

there does need to be some sort of stipulation, i suppose, because every band has a few oddballs

so let's say any band where 85% of the songs sound the same but a vast majority of those songs are quality

i think the beach boys are all over the map (from smile to wild honey to sunflower in three years, for instance), but they move in phases and unless you're down deep in the catalog it's hard to know that

i'm having a hard time thinking of an ac/dc song that doesn't involve a straight beat, a big vocal, and a huge malcolm riff

2/27/2010 10:20:44 AM

I don't get why Fleetwood Mac has a reputation of cool, but Eagles don't. They're very similar. A lot of ups and downs, turned out some great country-rock songs at their peak(s) at a time when country-rock songs were king, but since then have also turned some pretty cheesy shit.

2/27/2010 10:22:15 AM

Fleetwood Mac made two damn fine rock records with a hell of lot of emotion spilled all over them.

The Eagles only made one, even that one is arguable, and it's pretty devoid of anything serious.

Plus, Fleetwood Mac were three douchebags and two girls, whereas the Eagles were four douchebags and Joe Walsh.

2/27/2010 10:29:28 AM

I am deep in the Beach Boys' catalog. I will give you the "phases" argument, but I don't think those phases differ vastly from the previous phase. For instance, all they really added from their earliest "surfing and girls and cars" era to the Pet Sounds and Smile era was orchestration (and Brian Wilson's songwriting got better). If you strip the songs of their orchestral elements (although I realize this is heresy, and would never allow it to be done), you can see that the songs are still all about one thing-vocal harmonization. In this respect (the same formula you apparently applied to AC/DC), I see their songs as similar. However, I will cede that when I named the Beach Boys, I was thinking more pre-Pet Sounds.

[Edited on February 27, 2010 at 10:31 AM. Reason : ]

2/27/2010 10:30:45 AM

Soundgarden

2/27/2010 10:33:45 AM

Girls can be douchebags, too, and I'm not sure that Stevie Nicks isn't one. So, that's four douchebags and a girl VS. four douchebags and Joe Walsh. Who wins out between Joe Walsh and a girl? I don't know.

I don't really know about who in Eagles are douchebags and who in Fleetwood Mac are douchebags; I just know that they've had similar music, similar career arcs, and similar success. As far as emotion goes, I think you can find emotion or earnestness in their earlier records. Just as much as you would find in a Fleetwood Mac record. And, even if we were to allow the goofy/serious argument to stand--is emotional art always better than goofy art? Absolutely not. I don't think there's anything wrong with a song being goofy. If we didn't respect goofy music, the Beatles would not be the Beatles. It's as simple as that.

[Edited on February 27, 2010 at 10:40 AM. Reason : ...]

2/27/2010 10:37:29 AM

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"The Eagles only made one, even that one is arguable, and it's pretty devoid of anything serious."

which one, pray tell, would that be?

2/27/2010 10:41:40 AM

i kind of like the new guy

2/27/2010 10:45:23 AM

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"And, even if we were to allow the goofy/serious argument to stand--is emotional art always better than goofy art? Absolutely not. I don't think there's anything wrong with a song being goofy. If we didn't respect goofy music, the Beatles would not be the Beatles. It's as simple as that."

I'm fine with goofy, but a lot of Eagles songs are neither serious nor fun to me, they're just there.

^^ The only Eagles record I can really stand to listen to if forced is the first one, though I have to give some credit to One of These Nights for giving us the H2G2 theme. That's a personal preference, however. Hotel California is the only Eagles record that's ever really been given status as a "great record".

[Edited on February 27, 2010 at 10:49 AM. Reason : forgot ze question]

2/27/2010 10:46:01 AM

David Gray. Seriously has to use the same song twice to make an album

2/27/2010 10:47:02 AM

Teeth Mountain

2/27/2010 11:06:43 AM

Phil Collins

2/27/2010 11:09:08 AM

Here's a line from another good Eagles tune, "Already Gone":

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"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key""

May not be literary brilliance, but I think they suggest that Eagles weren't a band that a serious music fan can casually dismiss as bad. And aside from the lyrics of their songs, which I am not arguing are great, they had strong, catchy melodies and solid country-rock arrangements (again, much like Fleetwood Mac). From what I can see, they've had a pretty sizable influence on artists like Drive-By Truckers and Ryan Adams (most notably Don Henley's voice).

2/27/2010 11:15:04 AM

nickelback

2/27/2010 11:15:28 AM

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"Teeth Mountain"

Their whole life is ridiculous.

2/27/2010 11:18:02 AM

wait... vinylbandit likes AC/DC?? Or is this thread a joke?

2/27/2010 11:18:26 AM

Who likes rock music and doesn't like AC/DC?

Malcolm Young is one of my favorite guitar players ever.

2/27/2010 11:19:12 AM

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"Who likes rock music and doesn't like AC/DC?"

I'm sure you could find a lot of people...However, I'm not going to take this as permission to casually dismiss them as not good.

2/27/2010 11:21:58 AM

zing

I still hate the Eagles.

2/27/2010 11:26:12 AM

Kings of Leon - I swear I cant tell the difference between any of their songs when they come on the radio, I think they just rehash the same lyrics and throw a new chorus in the middle somewhere

John Meyer

AC/DC

2/27/2010 11:27:37 AM

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"Who likes rock music and doesn't like AC/DC? Malcolm Young is one of my favorite guitar players ever."

I agree... Bon Scott era AC/DC is awesome. But this isn't your first time on tww, you know damn well people hate the shit out of AC/DC.

2/27/2010 11:29:13 AM

I guess I don't know anyone who likes straight-up rock and roll who doesn't enjoy a big AC/DC riff now and then.

2/27/2010 11:30:51 AM

i don't read all that often, but I like looking at the pictures in Sports Illustrated now and then

2/27/2010 11:37:21 AM

Maybe I can't recognize people who like straight-up rock and roll, whatever that means. I remember defending them against what seemed like the majority in some thread on here.

2/27/2010 11:41:39 AM

i'm pretty sure that i enjoy all of the eagles songs as covers better than the original

2/27/2010 11:59:02 AM

vinylbandit's legs have got to be getting tired from all this backpedalling.

2/27/2010 12:01:26 PM

oh, you've done it now!

prepare to be told

2/27/2010 12:02:56 PM

HEY I ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR CELEBRATION OF THE MUCH UNDERRATED MALCOLM YOUNG AS OPPOSED TO THE PROBABLY OVERCELEBRATED ANGUS.


THXU

[Edited on February 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM. Reason : and i fucking hate the eagles]

2/27/2010 12:03:54 PM

...but you like Bon Jovi?

2/27/2010 12:06:04 PM

no.



i straight up love them.


there's no like about it.

2/27/2010 12:09:33 PM

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"oh, you've done it now! prepare to be told"

I am ready and waiting.

2/27/2010 12:21:05 PM

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"Soundgarden"

B.S.

2/27/2010 12:30:46 PM

i knew as soon as i saw this thread that vinylbandit would mention ccr

and it means i will have to fight him

2/27/2010 12:40:34 PM

Interpol
Frightened Rabbit
Death Cab For Cutie

2/27/2010 1:07:12 PM

311

2/27/2010 2:07:59 PM

Beulah

2/27/2010 2:45:26 PM

well fuck you guys. I like the eagles, and their songs don't sound the same. thats just ridiculous

2/27/2010 2:56:16 PM

wait, since when did we (tww) hate acdc?

2/27/2010 3:09:53 PM

I like AC/DC, I just agree that the majority of their songs sound exactly the same


and I call bs on 311's songs sounding the same. they are arguably one of the more diverse bands out, on any given record you can find a mix of reggae, rock, and rap-type songs

I would say 311, Muse and Red Hot Chili Peppers are three of the most diverse groups musically out right now. Flame me if you want

[Edited on February 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/27/2010 3:49:05 PM

Offspring

2/27/2010 3:54:49 PM

I was going to slather disagreement all over this thread.

But then I realized it already has a nice coating.

2/27/2010 4:06:51 PM