Since there are a lot of Chargers fans on here because of Rivers, I figured this could use its own thread (didn't see a mention of him in the Chargers official thread). The official trade last night was: the 28th pick, a 2010 2nd round pick, a 2010 4th round pick, and Tim Dobbins to the Phins, the 12th pick (Mathews), a 2010 4th rounder, and a 2010 6th rounder to the Chargers. As a Chargers fan, I'm really excited about Mathews and think he'll be fantastic right away next year. However, they might've been able to get him still at 28, or if not, they probably didn't need to trade all the way up to 12, they probably could've settled for, say, the 20th pick. And in trading away their 2nd round pick, they're giving up an opportunity to draft a quality DT, which they are in desperate need of since Jamal Williams. They also have issues at CB that are yet to be addressed. What do you guys think of this trade and of Mathews?

4/23/2010 2:13:48 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to not know how to coherently get your point across. Maybe if you put your post in a better format i would read it. Holy crap, i actually just tried to read taht all in one and now i think my brain is fried. I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to not know how to coherently get your point across. Maybe if you put your post in a better format i would read it. Holy crap, i actually just tried to read taht all in one and now i think my brain is fried. I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to not know how to coherently get your point across. Maybe if you put your post in a better format i would read it. Holy crap, i actually just tried to read taht all in one and now i think my brain is fried.

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM. Reason : VV much better attempt]

4/23/2010 2:16:27 PM

tl;dr

but yeah matt ryan is a lot better in the nfl than i thought he would be

4/23/2010 2:28:28 PM

Lets make a thread for a running back on a team 3000 miles away that people here only follow because we have an unhealthy emotional and psychological attachment to the starting quarterback and we root for him through thick and thin even though anyone but a blatant homer could plainly see that he is one of the biggest pricks in the league and almost universally disdained by everyone not from or currently living in San Diego, Raleigh or Decatur. Lets make a thread not for him, but for his teammate, a running back who played his college ball in California that ninety five percent of TWW hadn’t heard of before last night, just because he will be taking handoffs from the aforementioned prick. Great Idea.

4/23/2010 2:30:19 PM

I realize this thread is about Ryan Matthews... which I am not, but hear me out.

4/23/2010 2:31:35 PM

Quote :

"(didn't see a mention of him in the Chargers official thread)"

Then why didn't you mention it instead of making this stupid-ass thread??

4/23/2010 2:33:21 PM

^^^ one of the best posts I've seen on TWW.

BEST.
THREAD.
EVER.

4/23/2010 2:41:02 PM

Quote :

"Lets make a thread for a running back on a team 3000 miles away that people here only follow because we have an unhealthy emotional and psychological attachment to the starting quarterback and we root for him through thick and thin even though anyone but a blatant homer could plainly see that he is one of the biggest pricks in the league and almost universally disdained by everyone not from or currently living in San Diego, Raleigh or Decatur. Lets make a thread not for him, but for his teammate, a running back who played his college ball in California that ninety five percent of TWW hadn’t heard of before last night, just because he will be taking handoffs from the aforementioned prick. Great Idea."

A+

4/23/2010 2:45:48 PM

I like Philip

4/23/2010 2:48:20 PM

a Slave Famous post that reads like it was written by Jaybee1200???

is Slave Famous reaching across the aisle to bring us bipartisan superobjectivity?

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : =]

4/23/2010 2:51:23 PM

I didn't realize threadmaking was that sanctimonious to you. I apologize. I am a Chargers fan; you didn't have to post in here if you don't care about Ryan Mathews.

4/23/2010 2:52:08 PM

Quote :

"anyone but a blatant homer could plainly see that he is one of the biggest pricks in the league"

when keeping it real being too objective goes wrong

your dumb ass is still retardedly convinced that the #1 view of Rivers is that he's an asshole, when the #1 view league wide about Rivers is and has always been that he is a very good QB...and thats it

you sound more like a pissed off Jay Cutler dickrider than an objective NFL fan

4/23/2010 2:54:27 PM

it is to some. see the "user with < 1000 posts" comments. regardless, this should go in the chargers thread.

4/23/2010 2:55:07 PM

^^^ what if a thread was made for every pick of the draft?

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:56 PM. Reason : this board is cluttered enough as it is, no need for threads for individual players, esp. rookies ]

4/23/2010 2:55:12 PM

Slave Famous is all like



LEAVE JAY CUTLER ALONE!!1

4/23/2010 2:57:32 PM

Sorry Sal Paolantonio, didn't know you had the inside scoop


[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM. Reason : and this has less than nothing to do with Jay Cutler]

4/23/2010 2:58:16 PM

^^^I just thought this one was news enough to warrant a thread. I see a lot of Chargers stuff on here; I know it mostly stems from Rivers. I guess I was wrong. I didn't realize it would be such a big deal. I apologize.

Some of the regulars on this thread can be very hostile to new posters...

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 2:58:54 PM

the only reason Broncos fans and NCSU haters think Rivers is a dick is because he owned the Broncos and Jay Cutler got butt hurt

all 3 of my posts in this thread are 100% fucking spot on and you cant handle it

sometimes I'll be like "I won't draft Joe Mauer in my fantasy draft" because I'm afraid of being labelled a homer...but its also dumb to act like he's not a good player

so basically you're so afraid of being called out by Jaybee for not being objective, that you create some imaginary national opinion of Rivers, which in reality, is only shared by UNC fans and people who are fans of the Broncos (and probably Chiefs and Raiders)

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:01 PM. Reason : you fucking fail]

4/23/2010 2:59:51 PM

Rarely, if ever, would I ever call one of your posts spot on. You speak too often in absolutes to be take seriously anymore. A few years ago, you were fine, but then you began a downward spiral. Its like you saw Skip Bayless on Around the Horn one day and decided to mirror your whole Sports Talk persona on him.

4/23/2010 3:07:06 PM

Quote :

"Some of the regulars on this thread tww can be very hostile to new posters..."

this is why i lurked for like 3 years before i ended up posting (i wanted some people to play ssbm with). just take the punches and roll with it. i received an epic beat down from what i thought was a harmless post, too. it happens to everyone.

4/23/2010 3:07:31 PM

^^^^

it's a combination of the fact that there is a NFL Draft thread, a Chargers thread and your OP is so rambly. Why didn't you post it in one of those threads?

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:08 PM. Reason : ]

4/23/2010 3:08:05 PM

So you're saying I shouldn't make a Dez Bryant thread?


This thread also lacks *s

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ?]

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 3:10:19 PM

Quote :

"anyone but a blatant homer could plainly see that he is one of the biggest pricks in the league and almost universally disdained by everyone not from or currently living in San Diego, Raleigh or Decatur"

SF you have an unhealthy obsession with throwing Rivers under the bus, under the guise of being objective, when in actuality your contrived supposed "national" opinion of Rivers is based on input from a bunch of ECU and UNC and Denver Broncos fans, and not truly a national image of Rivers

The national image of Rivers is a top 5 QB who plays hard and has a good arm...only when you try to be overly objective does it completely warp your entire shit and make you sound like a dumbass

Yeah the rest of your post was clever, wow, confuckingratulations, it doesn't change the fact that your opinion of Rivers i crazy skewed

My Mauer analogy is a good example but I don't think your pride will allow you to realize it

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that this is an NCSU board and Rivers went to State...but the fact that it is a State board for some reason makes you think you need to be extra objective, when it turns out all that does is make you sound like the biggest Rivers hater

4/23/2010 3:21:31 PM

Tree gettin Slaved ITT

4/23/2010 3:22:22 PM

can wel lock this thread yet?

4/23/2010 3:22:31 PM

^x5 I just did post in the Chargers thread. Sorry, everyone.

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 3:22:43 PM

^^^no, thats actually his opinion...he thinks the national consensus of Rivers is that before anything else, people perceive him as a dick

He's not trolling

4/23/2010 3:24:27 PM

His skill as a player and his image are mutually exclusive.

Ben Roethlisberger is a great quarterback...and a rapist.

Dree Brees is a great quarterback...and by all acounts, a really nice guy.

Tom Brady is a great quarterback...and smug asshole who no one really likes but is jealous of for his off field exploits.

Philip Rivers is a great quarterback...and a punk bitch who no one really likes.

Skill and Persona. Separate entities.

4/23/2010 3:30:51 PM

According to you, State fans and Chargers fans are pretty much the only people who don't hate Rivers

According to me, Broncos fans and State haters are pretty much the only people who do hate Rivers

95% of football fans know him as a good QB, period

You take one instance of him jawing with Denver fans, and somehow transform it into his entire national perception by NFL fans around the entire country for some reason

I would guess the reason is to not be perceived as a State homer on TWW, congrats, you've succeeded

4/23/2010 3:33:15 PM

Quote :

"one instance"

Quote :

"Results 1 - 10 of about 596 for "philip rivers is a douchebag". (0.57 seconds)"

4/23/2010 3:36:15 PM

^^Make that jawing with Jay Cutler, who most Denver fans hate now. Denver fans hate that he has kicked their team around on the regular.

It was Indy fans he talked back to (said "I'll be back") when they were taunting him after his ACL was torn.

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:37 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 3:36:24 PM

I feel like ESPN tries to portray him as a punk, based on a few seperate instances. Maybe those just stick out because I pay attention when they talk about him, and it slides off most people. I like Rivers, but it wouldn't surprise me if most of the country didn't like him, or didn't know enough to care either way.

4/23/2010 3:36:35 PM

when keeping it real being too objective goes wrong

Quote :

"or didn't know enough to care either way"

exactly...95% of NFL fans don't know or care about him being competitive and talking shit to Denver fans Cutler

they know him as a good football player, period

SF is just trying to somehow balance out the Rivers homerism on this site, but he's not going about it the right way

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 3:36:38 PM

I bet Rivers really appreciates the good work you're doing, Tree, defending the sullied name of a millionaire quarterback on a piece of shit message board. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:39 PM. Reason : []

4/23/2010 3:38:53 PM

ESPN has never skewed the perception of the country. 95% of fans don't remember what ESPN told them to think a year ago, only what ESPN tells them to think today.

4/23/2010 3:38:54 PM

hey Ernie, this is our piece of shit message board, don't forget

4/23/2010 3:40:53 PM

Quote :

"one instance"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7121902998

Quote :

"Colts at Chargers: I watched the Chargers play last week, and I think there’s a highly underreported story going on in the NFL this year. And that is that Philip Rivers is a douchebag. Big douchebag. HUGE douchebag. He’s the kind of fuckhead that wears Nantucket reds to a cocktail party and then pinches your sister’s tits. He’s the kind of shit-eating cockgobbler that throws Bacardi Silver peepee parties with JJ Redick. He’s the kind of guy who ends up working at an investment bank and spending his weekends beating his girlfriend as she tries to put herself through graduate school. I know the type. I live in Washington, okay? There are loads of these douches here, overcrowding the bars, rocking visors and running the Federal government. Rivers is the kind of douchebag that, quite literally, stomps his feet when things don’t go his way during the game. As Ufford once said, “He looks like the kind of asshole who treats waitresses like shit, then stiffs them.” We should make this prick an honorary lacrosse player. Norv gets his fair share of blame for what’s going on in San Diego. But Rivers deserves equal ire. IRE, I say! You’re ruining LT with your inaccuracy and your cattiness, Rivers! And I’m calling you out! In fact, I’m gonna give Rivers a new nickname. Rivers, from now on, your name is fucking Marmalard. Don’t like it? Well, go cry to the officials about it. It’s all you do anyway. Fucking Marmalard. Maybe you and Jimmy Clausen can go bowling sometime."

http://tracsposse.com/2009/12/23/t-rac-circle-of-hatred/philip-rivers-is-a-douchebag/

Quote :

"one instance"

4/23/2010 3:41:01 PM

a facebook group with, gasp, 22 members

wow thats national right there!

you think Chris Paul is regarded nationally as a ball punching faggot?

or do you think 95% of national fans just view him as a great PG?

careful, you're being forced to be objective on the other side of this argument, how will you react!

oh and this blog's banner image just screams credibility

4/23/2010 3:42:13 PM

95 percent of fans don't care because he performed the act in college in a game on Fox Sports South between two mediocre teams

Rivers performs his act 16 times a year, often on National Television

No one likes him but you

4/23/2010 3:44:09 PM

T-RAC'S POSSE speaks on behalf of NFL fans everywhere

hey look, Drew Brees sucks, here is a link to it on the internet so therefore my opinion is justified and correct

http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Drew_Brees

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2010 3:44:39 PM

I've done enough here

Think what you want

and don't ever take off your rose colored glasses

4/23/2010 3:46:26 PM

I'm just happy that this stupid shit is confined to this stupid thread

4/23/2010 3:46:29 PM

I'm not even defending Rivers, I'm calling you the fuck out for projecting the opinions of a tiny minority as the majority opinion of NFL fans

hey a facebook group with 22 members and a blogger must be representative of 150,000,000 NFL fans

And if you DARE to disagree, you're clearly a State homer, and not someone who realizes that 95% of the NFL views him solely as a good QB

4/23/2010 3:47:20 PM

this guy can have this thread if I can have my wichita state thread back

4/23/2010 4:05:37 PM

This has all been very entertaining.

I too find myself in the camp believing that Philip Rivers is an oxygen thief.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/19/rivers-foundation-to-help-foster-kids/

4/23/2010 4:24:05 PM

chris paul punched a spur (spurs?) in the balls a couple years back

no one knows about it because wake forest fans dont go around reminding everyone about it, i guess

4/23/2010 4:32:08 PM

a good old-fashioned rivers argument is like the syringe full of adrenaline for a comatose thread

4/23/2010 4:46:46 PM

Quote :

"95 percent of fans don't care because he performed the act in college in a game on Fox Sports South between two mediocre teams "

It was a game between two nationally ranked teams. Also if you remember correctly Wake Forest had been ranked #1 for a significant portion of that season so classifying it as a meaningless game between two "mediocre teams" is completely stupid. Nice attempt to dodge the question though.

4/24/2010 10:31:12 AM

Kiss my black ass

4/24/2010 11:10:47 AM

Most of the nation hates rivers!

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=89234

[Edited on April 24, 2010 at 11:29 AM. Reason : But that's all I'm going to say in this thread, SF is doing a good job trolling]

4/24/2010 11:28:38 AM