BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Suicides, "Stolen" iPhones, Flash, And His Great Sex Life -- Steve Jobs Uncensored" |
http://www.dailytech.com/Suicides+Stolen+iPhones+Flash+And+His+Great+Sex+Life++Steve+Jobs+Uncensored/article18588.htm
Quote : | "Apple's CEO leaves no stone unturned in a candid interview
Tonight at the eight annual All Things Digital conference (D8 for short) a frequent guest -- Apple CEO, co-founder and "supreme leader" (according to All Things Digital) Steve Jobs -- popped and let loose on a variety of topics during an interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher (the exchange was liveblogged by Engadget).
Fresh out the gates, Jobs ripped into Adobe on the topic of Flash. He said, "Flash looks like it had its day but it's waning, and HTML5 looks like it's coming up. There's no smartphone shipping with Flash."
Jobs not only yet again compared Flash to deceased formats like the 3 and 1/2 inch floppy disk and Hyper Card, but also claims that he's the one being victimized. He alluded to his recent open letter/rant against Flash, stating, "We told Adobe to show us something better, and they never did. It wasn't until we shipped the iPad that Adobe started to raise a stink about it. We weren't trying to have a fight, we just decided to not use one of their products. They made a big deal of it -- that's why I wrote that letter. I said enough is enough, we're tired of these guys trashing us."
The interview then took a turn into a discussion about Gizmodo, searches, and the infamous lost iPhone prototype. On this Jobs comments, "Well a guy... who can say if he's a journalist... I can tell you what I do know, though. To make a product you need to test it. You have to carry them outside. One of our employees was carrying one. There's a debate about whether he left it in a bar, or it was stolen out of his bag. The person who found it tried to sell it, they called Engadget, they called Gizmodo."
"The person who took the phone plugged it into his roommates computer. And this guy was trying to destroy evidence... and his roommate called the police. So this is a story that's amazing -- it's got theft, it's got buying stolen property, it's got extortion, I'm sure there's some sex in there."
And towards the end of his talk he commented, "You know, when this whole thing with Gizmodo happened, I got advice from people who said 'you gotta just let it slide, you shouldn't go after a journalist just because they bought stolen property and tried to extort you.' And I thought deeply about this, and I concluded the worst thing that could happen is if we change our core values and let it slide. I can't do that. I'd rather quit."
Those two controversial topics weren't the only ones hit on during this barn-burner interview, though. Jobs was questioned on the topic of Foxconn where Apple is reportedly subsidizing a pay raise for its overworked employees after a string of 11 suicides, several of which occurred over the last couple weeks. Jobs remarks, "We are all over this. Foxconn is not a sweatshop."
He says that the suicides are somewhat like a string of suicides that occurred in his home town of Palo Alto. He comments, "The rate is under what the US rate is, but it's still troubling. We had this in my hometown of Palo Alto, copy cat suicides. We're over there trying to understand this. It's a difficult situation."
Jobs says that one morning he just woke up and heard about Android. When asked if he felt betrayed, though, he quipped, "My sex life is pretty good."
But when asked about his search plans, there was little humor in his unequivocal response. He stated, "We have no plans to go into the search business. We don't care about it -- other people do it well."
On the topic of the iPhone itself Jobs says that AT&T is doing a good job handling its loads of traffic, but complains that they "have issues." He failed to elaborate further on what these "issues" were, but he did comment that there might be advantages to going with a second carrier in the U.S. But he said he couldn't talk about that at this time.
Those were among the highlights in what was one of the most candid, at times hilarious, and overall hard-hitting interviews in recent history. A full video will be linked here, courtesy of All Things Digital, once it gets posted. " |
6/3/2010 7:27:14 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Can we suspend this kid already? Wtf is tech talk going to look like if someone makes a new thread for every single tech article they read. 6/3/2010 7:41:02 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
It'll look like The Soap Box for people with no social skills.
wait 6/3/2010 7:43:11 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
haha I lol'd 6/3/2010 7:44:48 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Can we suspend this kid already? Wtf is tech talk going to look like if someone makes a new thread for every single dailytech.com article they read. 6/3/2010 7:45:12 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
did I break some Forum rule? If you guys hate Steve Jobs so much then don't read the article. Or if you can show me where a thread with the same content has been posted have this one closed. 6/3/2010 7:51:36 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Its not Steve Jobs they hate, you idiot. 6/4/2010 8:38:36 AM |
jimmy123 Veteran 395 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the eight annual" |
6/4/2010 8:41:44 AM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
I am still waiting to hear what is wrong with posting this article 6/5/2010 3:28:56 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
mostly that it could have gone in any of the other pre-existing Apple threads. there are a lot of things discussed in tech talk that don't need a separate thread. this was one of those things. 6/5/2010 9:31:53 AM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
who wants to go through a 50 pg+ thread to find a single article?
I don't know what yall have against posting new threads in tech talk, but until a mod says something I will continue to do so.
I mean if I make a "Tech" thread would you all be forced to post everything in there? 6/5/2010 1:21:17 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
if the article is at the current end of the thread, that's not a problem. in this case, Jobs talking at D8 is more of a part of the narrative from other threads, rather than its own news story.
i mean, you can post whatever you want. i'm just saying that the custom is to include related news in threads that already exist. 6/5/2010 1:24:38 PM |
Talage All American 5094 Posts user info edit post |
Personally I think its dumb to lump everything into one big thread. But there seem to be a couple of people on here that get their panties in a bunch everytime someone posts topics that fall into a certain category.
"Like, OMG you posted about how to pick a video card for a specific use! That shit should have gone into the perpetual computer build thread!"
...or, "OMG you posted an article about Steve Jobs, that shit should have gone into the iPhone thread!"
I'm actually surprised the tech talk nazis allowed an iPad and iPhone thread to co-exist. 6/5/2010 4:17:26 PM |
qntmfred retired 40817 Posts user info edit post |
i'm personally of the mind that if there's a topic that ends up getting a lot of consistent discussion it probably deserves its own thread. if there's an occasional offshoot, that's fine, as long as it's not just somebody who didn't know the established thread already existed
i am starting to get a little tired of blackdog posting every other article he reads on dailytech though
[Edited on June 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2010 4:24:51 PM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
It would be one thing if he posted the article and then wrote something in his own words to start a discussion, but he's not. Either wait for someone here to post the article with their opinion/questions/concerns or just read the comments at dailytech. It's pointless to just copy/paste an article here. 6/5/2010 4:31:56 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I'm trying to positively encourage, not be a dick to him. There are plenty of things worth their own threads, and I don't think too many people would argue. The nice thing about technology is that it's changing fairly rapidly, so new topics will come and go. But not all things need their own thread. 6/5/2010 7:51:07 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i am starting to get a little tired of blackdog posting every other article he reads on dailytech though" |
do you have something against DailyTech?
also not all my threads are from DailyTech, just general tech ones.6/6/2010 1:46:00 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
stop posting new threads about shit that's being posted on dailytech... specially ones written by Jason Mick. God he sucks at report the news and writing anything in that manner. 6/6/2010 2:40:18 AM |
benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
Blackdog - shut the fuck up
Quote : | "It's pointless to just copy/paste an article here." |
+16/6/2010 9:01:34 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do you have something against DailyTech?
also not all my threads are from DailyTech, just general tech ones." |
It's not the source of your articles that people take issue with, it's the number of them and the fact that most, if not all of the articles you choose to repost are of very little interest to most of the people that frequent this section. There have been 19 replies to this thread, and not a single one has anything to do with the article you posted. Do you really think people care about Steve Jobs' sex life? And it's not as if you bothered to start off the discussion with any content of your own either. Most of the time it's nothing or something stupid like lollzzz.
Your special brand of posting is better suited for chit chat. Or in a perfect word, not posting at all.]6/6/2010 10:34:38 AM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
then why read my threads at all? why do you keep posting in my threads if they are so horrible?
500 views, someone is interested.
[Edited on June 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM. Reason : .] 6/6/2010 4:18:55 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Because we want to post and tell you to stop.
STOP 6/6/2010 4:21:53 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
if you aren't a moderator I don't give a shit what your opinion is 6/6/2010 4:29:08 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
If Bobby asked you to chill, would you? 6/6/2010 4:56:17 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
No, he really wouldn't. 6/6/2010 4:57:13 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Chill. 6/6/2010 9:23:05 PM |