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JTMONEYNCSU
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New season starts in a month and with the World Cup over, all of the clubs will be starting their pre-season friendlies now. There's sure to be a lot of transfer rumors going around over many of the stars of the cup, and the youngsters who may have shone during the tournament. Lots of talk already with Torres and Mascherano probably leaving Liverpool. Plenty of buzz about Sneijder going to Manchester United, though not sure where the sources are coming from as both parties have said neither want each other..haha. Also, I figured Fabregas wouldve left Arsenal by now for Barcelona, but it doesn't appear that Barcelona care or can pay whatever price tag Arsenal has put on Cesc's worth. Will anyone take a gamble on Forlan after his success, the gamble being his age and the fact that he flopped once in the EPL already...And who else will Manchester City purchase before the transfer window wraps up at the end of August?

Also, noticing a lot of new jerseys coming out for teams, and if what I've seen from some "leaks" comes true in 3 days, get ready to laugh your asses off at Manchester United's home and away kits

Here are the first 4 weeks of the new EPL season starting next month. I'm not gonna post further out than that cause some games are liable to get changed due to weather, champions/europe league, cup matches, etc...






I think I'd also like to use this first page to figure out what clubs the users on TWW support. For the most part I think I know who everyone likes, but I think it would be cool to have a big list on this page of who supports who and maybe where you think your club will finish this season.

JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd

7/12/2010 8:08:30 PM

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FIRST

d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st! (but realistically, probably 2nd)

7/12/2010 8:11:58 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
Ernie - Leeds! - Prediction: see you in 2-3 years

7/12/2010 8:12:24 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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I'm pretty sure chelski is gonna win again. only reason i decided to predict 2nd.

loool leeds

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 8:13 PM. Reason : f]

7/12/2010 8:12:43 PM

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Let's see some pics of the leaks

As for who I support, I can't really say that I'm 100% behind anyone, I just like watching soccer. Tottenham intrigued me a little last year as did Everton, but I'd hesitate to call myself a full fledged fan of either.

Maybe this year I can get behind one these clubs.

7/12/2010 8:13:34 PM

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7/12/2010 8:15:29 PM

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Here is the away I believe:



Here is the home:





^lol. i know why you posted that, but I dont see leeds coming back to the epl anytime soon since they sold Beckford to Everton. they cant keep their good players

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 8:17 PM. Reason : f]

7/12/2010 8:15:47 PM

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those kits are meh. but i'd be lying if i said i wouldn't wear one.

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 8:19 PM. Reason : k]

7/12/2010 8:17:20 PM

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I agree with that completely. Mike Grella or bust.

7/12/2010 8:19:13 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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haha he played for Duke and the Railhawks u-23 team

7/12/2010 8:20:55 PM

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That away kit is pretty hot

I a quick google search turned up this pic



That green and gold kit is

7/12/2010 8:22:01 PM

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that looks more like what i think they would be and could only hope. the green and gold doesnt surprise me for a 3rd jersey this year after all the anti-glazer shit lately

7/12/2010 8:23:17 PM

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heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd

It won't be easy to leapfrog over Spurs and Arsenal or Man U, but City will have a better squad and a better coach than they did most of last season.

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 9:21 PM. Reason : rationale]

7/12/2010 9:03:57 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 9:51 PM. Reason : edit]

7/12/2010 9:42:28 PM

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my team is yeovil town fc in league one, but i don't think they'll ever make it in the premiership.

i'm going for aston villa in the epl and i think they'll finish 5th again, especially if they sell milner. i'm hoping for 4th place though.

i may change my allegiances if bob bradley comes in as the coach at fulham though.

7/12/2010 10:01:50 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years
McWinger03 - Aston Villa - Prediction: 5th

7/12/2010 10:06:39 PM

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help me, I'm a n00b

Liverpool - waiting to see who they have left

and any Americans in the league

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 10:13 PM. Reason : n000bbbb]

7/12/2010 10:12:29 PM

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NyM410 - West Ham United - We are going to barely avoid relegation again.

7/12/2010 10:15:54 PM

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Watched the EPL every weekend for the last 4 or 5 seasons, but I can truly say I do not have a favorite team. I'm more loyal to certain players than teams. For instance I was all about Everton after they picked up Donovan. For the sake of the thread I'll make a prediction for the Toffees.

Prediction: Everton, 7th


[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 10:37 PM. Reason : f]

7/12/2010 10:33:40 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years
McWinger03 - Aston Villa - Prediction: 5th
aimorris - Liverpool - Prediction: ?
NyM410 - West Ham - Prediction: ~17th
hey now - Everton - Prediction: 7th
kiljadn - Manchester United - Prediction: 3rd, Blackpool - Prediction: 16th



[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM. Reason : edit]

7/12/2010 10:35:51 PM

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Quote :
"that looks more like what i think they would be and could only hope. the green and gold doesnt surprise me for a 3rd jersey this year after all the anti-glazer shit lately"



Actually read that the supporters had changed their motto from "Green & Gold til they die or fold" to "Red & Black until they give it back," so that actually lends some creedance to the idea of that green/gold kit so the team administration could make it seem like all those anti-glazer fans are actually not pissed off. Pretty fucking smart.


kiljadn - Manchester United - Prediction: 3rd - Blackpool FC - Prediction: 16th

7/12/2010 10:36:08 PM

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mizzo - Liverpool - Prediction: 4th (i hope)

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 11:34 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/12/2010 11:33:36 PM

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I thought we created the "European Soccer" thread so we wouldn't need this one

or is that one only for CL and other shit leagues like Serie A

7/13/2010 7:38:32 AM

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i assumed that encompassed all of europe. the EPL seems to be the easiest league to watch on tv from what i noticed while i had cable (though it depends on what cable package you are on), and i assume most people on here watch that league the most. plus this thread is made every season and no ones complained yet. there are officiall acc threads and sec threads and all kinds of gay split up shit on here so i dont see there being a problem with splittin off europe to have the the biggest/most popular league in the world as its own thread

and usually there is an own CL thread too, but i guess that and the europe league can be talked about in there :/, though id rather the Champions League and europe league be lumped into one thread too. the rest of european discussions would make sense in the european thread which is what it seems like ribs wanted in the first post

theres way too many leagues and different competitions in europe for us to be handcuffed to one thread in sports talk.




also, amazing how chelski got a nearly identical easiest start possible to the season like last season in the first month of play



[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:01 AM. Reason : edit #7]

7/13/2010 7:54:57 AM

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yeah I wasn't necessarily arguing against having these threads

But I think the more we keep it confined, the less trolling we'll encounter


yeah, Liverpool got an easy start too

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM. Reason : .]

7/13/2010 8:00:47 AM

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i understand, but since the trolling comes from the same users, its obviously never going to go away unless they go away. NYM seems to want a no troll policy in ST for the most part, so it should be easy enough to PM him if there are retards trolling around for no reason


damn liverpool have a shitty first 2 games to start with. home to arsenal then away to man city

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:03 AM. Reason : f]

7/13/2010 8:02:09 AM

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so here's the ***** Official TWW ST Soccer Thread List *****

1. Perpetual US Soccer thread
2. English Premier League
3. European Soccer
4. Champions League (eventually)


International news (not involving USMNT) should go in #3 or do we need a 5th for internationals?

7/13/2010 8:04:20 AM

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haha idk. a new thread would be easier to find stuff, but i dont think it would ever get used much unless it was a perpetual international soccer thread

JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years
McWinger03 - Aston Villa - Prediction: 5th
aimorris - Liverpool - Prediction: ?
NyM410 - West Ham - Prediction: ~17th
hey now - Everton - Prediction: 7th
kiljadn - Manchester United - Prediction: 3rd, Blackpool - Prediction: 16th
mizzo - Liverpool - Prediction: 4th

7/13/2010 8:05:58 AM

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yeah Arse and City, and they're at St Andrews in their 4th game

plus, odds are on Torres being hurt (or sold) at the beginning of the season so basically... fuuuuuuuuucckk

7/13/2010 8:07:04 AM

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with the fact he only plays half a season for liverpool now, your best bet is for him to be sold for like 50 or 60 million pounds, which is way more than i think hes worth for how much hes hurt. and then invest that money in a couple pretty good strikers and maybe a right winger and/or another center back

hodgson could prob pull off better buys than rafa, but i think it might doom liverpool back to right outside the top 4.



...lol with threads like this: http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=598440 , might as well make a Perpetual International Soccer News Thread

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:13 AM. Reason : brains]

7/13/2010 8:09:20 AM

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oh, and also:

7/13/2010 8:09:40 AM

JTMONEYNCSU
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a picture is worth a thousand words....or about 35 million pounds?

7/13/2010 8:10:22 AM

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Pique is a cheeky bastard

don't worry though Gooners, he dedicated the WC to Arsenal, I actually think he was singing this during the celebrations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuua8Rrz9Hs

7/13/2010 8:15:21 AM

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I think Birmingham City is going to do even better than they surprisingly did last season now that they have Chucho out of there. I'd say they'll qualify for Europa League, maybe finishing 6 or 7 in the EPL.

7/13/2010 8:44:39 AM

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I was always a fan of Arsenal growing up and still am but I have barely followed the league the last 2 seasons compared to previous years because my life has just gotten a lot busier. I'd check scores online etc. but barely got to watch any games. I'm going to try and make an attempt to get back into it again and watch more games this year.

That being said, I wouldn't mind picking a second team to cheer for since I really don't have a vested interest in any individual players on Arsenal's roster, rather I've just rooted for them for so long it seems like habit.

edit: I'll say Arsenal finish in 3rd

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 9:29 AM. Reason : ]

7/13/2010 9:25:31 AM

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JT nailed it re: the soccer threads

I just made the other one because I felt bad watering down the EPL thread with Serie A, La Liga, etc news and discussion. I just figured we should have a general topic for that shit to go. Ain't nothing wrong with another soccer thread though

7/13/2010 10:55:24 AM

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Yeah, I guess the other one will cover both UCL and Europa cup as well as just general continental leagues. That's a good thing.

7/13/2010 10:59:35 AM

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iop1

7/13/2010 11:08:09 AM

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Arsenal: 2nd Come on Gunners
Blackpool: 20th

7/13/2010 11:19:41 AM

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^ Don't burst my bubble

7/13/2010 11:45:41 AM

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arsenal: 2nd or 3rd though i dont watch much EPL at all anymore and was never heavily into it. but dad lived in just outside north london and i liked the cannons all over their stuff when i was a kid.

7/13/2010 2:45:16 PM

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lol at Everton in pink

lol at how sad my prediction looks in that list

lol at Blackpool fans

7/13/2010 2:48:25 PM

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http://www.mlssoccer.com/

Bob Bradley to Fulham?

7/13/2010 3:14:30 PM

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amac884- Wolverhampton Wanderers 13th place

oh, and 2003-04 throwback year for arsenal

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM. Reason : ]

7/13/2010 3:22:52 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years
McWinger03 - Aston Villa - Prediction: 5th
aimorris - Liverpool - Prediction: ?
NyM410 - West Ham - Prediction: ~17th
hey now - Everton - Prediction: 7th
kiljadn - Manchester United - Prediction: 3rd, Blackpool - Prediction: 16th
mizzo - Liverpool - Prediction: 4th
wolfdawg4 - Arsenal - Prediction: 2nd, Blackpool - Prediction: 20th
amac884 - Wolves - Prediction: 13th, Arsenal - Prediction: Invincible
timmy - Arsenal - Prediction: 2nd or 3rd
CalledToArms - Arsenal - Prediction: 3rd

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 5:00 PM. Reason : lol]

7/13/2010 4:58:02 PM

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Man U: 2nd

Interesting tidbit I read according to FIFA's stats page says Chicharito was the fastest player at the World Cup at 32.15km/h.

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 5:24 PM. Reason : source: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/news/newsid=1259849/index.html#statistical+stars+fro]

7/13/2010 5:24:08 PM

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JTMONEYNCSU - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
d7freestyler - Manchester United - Prediction: 1st
heelfan - Manchester City - Prediction: 3rd
Ernie - Leeds - Prediction: Back in the EPL in 2 or 3 years
McWinger03 - Aston Villa - Prediction: 5th
aimorris - Liverpool - Prediction: ?
NyM410 - West Ham - Prediction: ~17th
hey now - Everton - Prediction: 7th
kiljadn - Manchester United - Prediction: 3rd, Blackpool - Prediction: 16th
mizzo - Liverpool - Prediction: 4th
wolfdawg4 - Arsenal - Prediction: 2nd, Blackpool - Prediction: 20th
amac884 - Wolves - Prediction: 13th, Arsenal - Prediction: Invincible
timmy - Arsenal - Prediction: 2nd or 3rd
CalledToArms - Arsenal - Prediction: 3rd
blanks - Manchester United - Prediction: 2nd
God - West Bromwich Albion - Prediction: ?

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM. Reason : FF0066]

7/13/2010 6:22:34 PM

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Noob who has casually watched some of the EPL over the last few years and is going to give it a go at a full season for the first time. I'm going with Manchester City and predict a 4th place finish.

7/13/2010 6:57:35 PM

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LOL MLS All-Stars announced a 3-5-2 lineup to play against United. they're lucky most of the players on the tour are second stringers, cause if it wasnt a WC year that'd be a good way to get the MLS embarassed.

7/13/2010 8:39:03 PM

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quit being so cynical nym. hammers have some solid players and are fast paced (for minutes 0-45 and 90-93, but no others).

Hammers to...13th!?!?!

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 9:57 PM. Reason : well...can be fast paced. few solid guys.]

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 10:05 PM. Reason : but oh god are their new jerseys fucking aweful]

7/13/2010 9:56:57 PM

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