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lewisje
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obviously as a liberal atheist I am amoral: http://yourmorals.org/

Most of the surveys deal with 5 components of morality: Harm/Care, Fairness/Justice, Ingroup/Loyalty, Authority/Respect, and Purity/Sanctity.
The first two are valued greatly across the political spectrum, more by liberals than by conservatives; liberals base their morality on only those two, while conservative morality is based on all five components (with fairness being slightly less valued than the others): http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html

When I took the Moral Foundations Questionnaire, I valued the Harm component just a little more than the conservatives and less than the liberals, while for the other ones I was considerably more extreme in valuing or devaluing than the liberals, including placing no value on the Purity/Sanctity component.

9/11/2010 5:28:50 PM

theDuke866
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I would describe myself as a moderate, pragmatic, right-leaning libertarian...but at least by the metrics in this study, my mind works more like that of a filthy leftist.

9/11/2010 7:38:33 PM

Supplanter
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Duke's Score


My Score


^You can take comfort in not being as filthy leftist as me at least, although I still scored less on harm/fairness than the average liberal and on harm I scored less than the average conservative

Given those 5 parameters I guess I'm happy that I scored highest on fairness.

9/11/2010 8:18:04 PM

lewisje
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[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 8:42 PM. Reason : FUCK AUTHORITY

9/11/2010 8:39:58 PM

moron
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[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM. Reason : ]

9/11/2010 9:14:48 PM

McDanger
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[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2010 9:55:39 PM

mcfluffle
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9/11/2010 10:38:23 PM

BridgetSPK
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2.7
4.2
1.8
1.5
0.8

I pretty much tracked well within supposedly liberal morals.

Except for the harm one. Apparently, that shit don't matter to me.

9/12/2010 5:55:28 PM

1337 b4k4
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2.7
2.8
2.5
2.7
1.5

9/12/2010 6:25:59 PM

GoldenViper
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I feel decidedly stupider after playing around with this site. The moral dilemmas in particular were tedious and absurd. My morality doesn't fit well in their boxes.



[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM. Reason : image]

9/12/2010 6:30:38 PM

Supplanter
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By totaling the scores we can finally ranks TSB posters in order of best to worst person (I'm looking at you here lewisje)

Avg conservative – 15.4
Avg liberal - 13
moron -12.8
McDanger – 12.6
1337 b4k4 - 12.2
BridgetSPK - 11
Supplanter - 10.1
theDuke866 – 10
mcfluffle – 9.7
lewisje – 9.6
GoldenViper - 9.5

[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 6:39 PM. Reason : a challenger appears!]

9/12/2010 6:35:44 PM

Supplanter
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A more interesting comparison might be avg conservative vs avg liberal vs avg tdubber (so far):

avg conservative:
harm 3.0, fairness 3.1, loyalty 3.1, authority 3.3, purity 2.9

avg liberal:
harm 3.7, fairness 3.8, loyalty 2.1, authority 2.1, purity 1.3

avg tdubber:
harm 3.2, fairness 3.7, loyalty 1.7, authority 1.5, purity 0.8


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avg tdubber distance from avg conservative:
harm 0.2, fairness 0.6, loyalty 1.4, authority 1.8, purity 2.1

avg tdubber distance from avg liberal:
harm 0.5, fairness 0.1, loyalty 0.4, authority 0.6, purity 0.5

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Tdubber totals:

Fairness - 33.3
Harm - 28.7
Loyalty - 14.9
Authority - 13.7
Purity - 6.9


[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:06 PM. Reason : .]

9/12/2010 7:05:52 PM

d357r0y3r
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[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:44 PM. Reason : double post]

9/12/2010 7:40:51 PM

d357r0y3r
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[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:46 PM. Reason : ]

9/12/2010 7:44:11 PM

IMStoned420
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Bout where I figured I would fall. Slightly more to the middle than liberal. And also very close to moron which isn't surprising because I feel like we agree on almost everything.

9/12/2010 8:08:59 PM

GrumpyGOP
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2.3
3.8
4.0
2.7
2.0

[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 8:41 PM. Reason : can't get pic working]

9/12/2010 8:39:53 PM

dagreenone
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9/12/2010 8:54:46 PM

shmorri2
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[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 9:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/12/2010 9:45:23 PM

smc
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There's no such thing.

9/12/2010 9:46:32 PM

disco_stu
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[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 9:08 AM. Reason : lol nm]

9/13/2010 9:07:55 AM

Shaggy
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9/13/2010 9:40:26 AM

RedGuard
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(Trait - My Score (Lib - Con))

Harm - 2.3 (3.7-3.0)
Fairness - 3.8 (3.8-3.1)
Loyalty - 3.7 (2.1-3.1)
Authority - 3.2 (2.1-3.3)
Purity - 2.2 (1.1-2.9)

Looks to me that the harm itself is pointless, but I'm all about fairness/social justice. Apparently loyalty to group is extreme even by Republican standards, and I typically am a strong support of existing authority. I am middle-of-the-road on purity issues. Not sure what this makes me: an autocrat? Lawful Neutral?

[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .]

9/13/2010 10:57:57 AM

Lavim
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[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 12:37 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2010 12:35:01 PM

Lumex
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I find these questions poorly worded and the answers are often misinterpreted.

9/13/2010 1:29:41 PM

xvang
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Man, I'm all over the board.



[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 1:45 PM. Reason : oops]

9/13/2010 1:43:54 PM

Supplanter
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This may be reading too much into it. But it looks like being high on fairness is common among liberals and libertarians, and that care about harm is what is differentiating the two. Harm perhaps taps into where one draws the line between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.

Loyalty and authority seems to be something we all have a little of, but aren't defining characteristics for many tdubbers.

I assume purity is getting at social conservatism?

9/13/2010 3:53:12 PM

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[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM. Reason : ]

9/13/2010 5:30:47 PM

1337 b4k4
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^^ Yeah purity on that site seems to be about either god or if you think "unnatural" things are wrong.

9/13/2010 8:32:33 PM

TULIPlovr
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I hate these quizzes, because every single question makes me say "Well, it depends on what you mean by that."

[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 8:55 PM. Reason : a]

9/13/2010 8:52:35 PM

Supplanter
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Easier to compare when they're easier to see. I already posted Duke's, here's the rest of the small ones:

McDanger


mcfluffle


Lavim


d357r0y3r


GoldenViper


TULIPlovr


[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2010 9:15:35 PM

theDuke866
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Quote :
"I hate these quizzes, because every single question makes me say "Well, it depends on what you mean by that.""


Yeah, that's why my scores are neither extremely low nor high in most categories.

Quote :
"By totaling the scores we can finally ranks TSB posters in order of best to worst person (I'm looking at you here lewisje)"


For the aforementioned reason, you can't really make that sort of comparison. What's more important is how each of the categories rank relative to each other for the same person.

9/13/2010 9:39:18 PM

eleusis
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that had to be the most horribly worded questionaire I've ever completed.

9/13/2010 11:16:15 PM

sparky
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Here is mine. I'm registered as a Democrat but consider myself to be Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative.



man i'm definitely more on the authority and loyalty parameters which seems to be counter-tww

[Edited on September 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .]

9/14/2010 11:52:15 AM

wdprice3
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0.0
2.0
4.5
3.0
0.7

9/14/2010 2:27:03 PM

HUR
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9/14/2010 4:36:32 PM

Supplanter
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^congrats on being the first person to fail the morality test

9/14/2010 5:43:41 PM

tromboner950
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I'd been meaning to take this ever since I saw the thread.




...yeah, fuck authority.

9/24/2010 2:34:52 PM

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9/24/2010 2:48:05 PM

Lavim
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bttt since I'm curious if any new posters will take this test.

Also

Quote :
"This may be reading too much into it. But it looks like being high on fairness is common among liberals and libertarians, and that care about harm is what is differentiating the two. Harm perhaps taps into where one draws the line between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome."


Seems accurate for me as I consider myself Libertarian on some issues and strongly Liberal on others.

[Edited on August 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM. Reason : .]

8/15/2011 9:28:17 PM

qntmfred
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Looks interesting. I'll probably take it, I'm honestly curious where I'd fall these days

8/15/2011 9:39:39 PM

Lavim
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I thought of this since I was thinking about if my score would change after a year or so if I took it again.. but then I got too lazy to take it again.

8/15/2011 9:50:35 PM

Str8Foolish
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Not surprising I guess



[Edited on August 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .]

8/16/2011 9:55:48 AM

AndyMac
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I was pretty average.

The questions were terrible. Like "it is never acceptable to kill another human" Even if I don't support the death penalty there are times when taking a life is necessary, so I can't very well say I slightly disagree when I think there are very clear (although rare) times when someone needs to die.

Likewise if i'm crazy enough to think that it's never acceptable to kill another human then I don't see how I would put anything other than strongly agree.

8/16/2011 4:56:32 PM

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8/16/2011 5:32:42 PM

PinkandBlack
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On a second look, I don't think mine is accurate. I need to retake this.

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 5:01 PM. Reason : x]

8/24/2011 4:52:37 PM

lewisje
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Thread needs a bump.

5/17/2014 10:15:57 PM

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