lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
obviously as a liberal atheist I am amoral: http://yourmorals.org/
Most of the surveys deal with 5 components of morality: Harm/Care, Fairness/Justice, Ingroup/Loyalty, Authority/Respect, and Purity/Sanctity. The first two are valued greatly across the political spectrum, more by liberals than by conservatives; liberals base their morality on only those two, while conservative morality is based on all five components (with fairness being slightly less valued than the others): http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html
When I took the Moral Foundations Questionnaire, I valued the Harm component just a little more than the conservatives and less than the liberals, while for the other ones I was considerably more extreme in valuing or devaluing than the liberals, including placing no value on the Purity/Sanctity component. 9/11/2010 5:28:50 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
I would describe myself as a moderate, pragmatic, right-leaning libertarian...but at least by the metrics in this study, my mind works more like that of a filthy leftist.
9/11/2010 7:38:33 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Duke's Score
My Score
^You can take comfort in not being as filthy leftist as me at least, although I still scored less on harm/fairness than the average liberal and on harm I scored less than the average conservative
Given those 5 parameters I guess I'm happy that I scored highest on fairness. 9/11/2010 8:18:04 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 8:42 PM. Reason : FUCK AUTHORITY
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moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
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McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
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mcfluffle All American 11291 Posts user info edit post |
9/11/2010 10:38:23 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
2.7 4.2 1.8 1.5 0.8
I pretty much tracked well within supposedly liberal morals.
Except for the harm one. Apparently, that shit don't matter to me. 9/12/2010 5:55:28 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
2.7 2.8 2.5 2.7 1.5 9/12/2010 6:25:59 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
I feel decidedly stupider after playing around with this site. The moral dilemmas in particular were tedious and absurd. My morality doesn't fit well in their boxes.
[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM. Reason : image] 9/12/2010 6:30:38 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
By totaling the scores we can finally ranks TSB posters in order of best to worst person (I'm looking at you here lewisje)
Avg conservative – 15.4 Avg liberal - 13 moron -12.8 McDanger – 12.6 1337 b4k4 - 12.2 BridgetSPK - 11 Supplanter - 10.1 theDuke866 – 10 mcfluffle – 9.7 lewisje – 9.6 GoldenViper - 9.5
[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 6:39 PM. Reason : a challenger appears!] 9/12/2010 6:35:44 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
A more interesting comparison might be avg conservative vs avg liberal vs avg tdubber (so far):
avg conservative: harm 3.0, fairness 3.1, loyalty 3.1, authority 3.3, purity 2.9
avg liberal: harm 3.7, fairness 3.8, loyalty 2.1, authority 2.1, purity 1.3
avg tdubber: harm 3.2, fairness 3.7, loyalty 1.7, authority 1.5, purity 0.8
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avg tdubber distance from avg conservative: harm 0.2, fairness 0.6, loyalty 1.4, authority 1.8, purity 2.1
avg tdubber distance from avg liberal: harm 0.5, fairness 0.1, loyalty 0.4, authority 0.6, purity 0.5
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Tdubber totals:
Fairness - 33.3 Harm - 28.7 Loyalty - 14.9 Authority - 13.7 Purity - 6.9
[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:06 PM. Reason : .] 9/12/2010 7:05:52 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:44 PM. Reason : double post]
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d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 7:46 PM. Reason : ]
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IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Bout where I figured I would fall. Slightly more to the middle than liberal. And also very close to moron which isn't surprising because I feel like we agree on almost everything.
9/12/2010 8:08:59 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
2.3 3.8 4.0 2.7 2.0
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dagreenone All American 5971 Posts user info edit post |
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shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
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smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
There's no such thing. 9/12/2010 9:46:32 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 9:08 AM. Reason : lol nm]
9/13/2010 9:07:55 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
9/13/2010 9:40:26 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
(Trait - My Score (Lib - Con))
Harm - 2.3 (3.7-3.0) Fairness - 3.8 (3.8-3.1) Loyalty - 3.7 (2.1-3.1) Authority - 3.2 (2.1-3.3) Purity - 2.2 (1.1-2.9)
Looks to me that the harm itself is pointless, but I'm all about fairness/social justice. Apparently loyalty to group is extreme even by Republican standards, and I typically am a strong support of existing authority. I am middle-of-the-road on purity issues. Not sure what this makes me: an autocrat? Lawful Neutral?
[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .] 9/13/2010 10:57:57 AM |
Lavim All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
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Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I find these questions poorly worded and the answers are often misinterpreted. 9/13/2010 1:29:41 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Man, I'm all over the board.
[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 1:45 PM. Reason : oops] 9/13/2010 1:43:54 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
This may be reading too much into it. But it looks like being high on fairness is common among liberals and libertarians, and that care about harm is what is differentiating the two. Harm perhaps taps into where one draws the line between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
Loyalty and authority seems to be something we all have a little of, but aren't defining characteristics for many tdubbers.
I assume purity is getting at social conservatism? 9/13/2010 3:53:12 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
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1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Yeah purity on that site seems to be about either god or if you think "unnatural" things are wrong. 9/13/2010 8:32:33 PM |
TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
I hate these quizzes, because every single question makes me say "Well, it depends on what you mean by that."
[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 8:55 PM. Reason : a]
9/13/2010 8:52:35 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Easier to compare when they're easier to see. I already posted Duke's, here's the rest of the small ones:
McDanger
mcfluffle
Lavim
d357r0y3r
GoldenViper
TULIPlovr
[Edited on September 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM. Reason : .] 9/13/2010 9:15:35 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hate these quizzes, because every single question makes me say "Well, it depends on what you mean by that."" |
Yeah, that's why my scores are neither extremely low nor high in most categories.
Quote : | "By totaling the scores we can finally ranks TSB posters in order of best to worst person (I'm looking at you here lewisje)" |
For the aforementioned reason, you can't really make that sort of comparison. What's more important is how each of the categories rank relative to each other for the same person.9/13/2010 9:39:18 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
that had to be the most horribly worded questionaire I've ever completed. 9/13/2010 11:16:15 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
Here is mine. I'm registered as a Democrat but consider myself to be Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative.
man i'm definitely more on the authority and loyalty parameters which seems to be counter-tww
[Edited on September 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .] 9/14/2010 11:52:15 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
0.0 2.0 4.5 3.0 0.7 9/14/2010 2:27:03 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^congrats on being the first person to fail the morality test 9/14/2010 5:43:41 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
I'd been meaning to take this ever since I saw the thread.
...yeah, fuck authority. 9/24/2010 2:34:52 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
9/24/2010 2:48:05 PM |
Lavim All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
bttt since I'm curious if any new posters will take this test.
Also
Quote : | "This may be reading too much into it. But it looks like being high on fairness is common among liberals and libertarians, and that care about harm is what is differentiating the two. Harm perhaps taps into where one draws the line between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome." |
Seems accurate for me as I consider myself Libertarian on some issues and strongly Liberal on others.
[Edited on August 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM. Reason : .]8/15/2011 9:28:17 PM |
qntmfred retired 40723 Posts user info edit post |
Looks interesting. I'll probably take it, I'm honestly curious where I'd fall these days 8/15/2011 9:39:39 PM |
Lavim All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
I thought of this since I was thinking about if my score would change after a year or so if I took it again.. but then I got too lazy to take it again. 8/15/2011 9:50:35 PM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
Not surprising I guess
[Edited on August 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .] 8/16/2011 9:55:48 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I was pretty average.
The questions were terrible. Like "it is never acceptable to kill another human" Even if I don't support the death penalty there are times when taking a life is necessary, so I can't very well say I slightly disagree when I think there are very clear (although rare) times when someone needs to die.
Likewise if i'm crazy enough to think that it's never acceptable to kill another human then I don't see how I would put anything other than strongly agree. 8/16/2011 4:56:32 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
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PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
On a second look, I don't think mine is accurate. I need to retake this.
[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 5:01 PM. Reason : x] 8/24/2011 4:52:37 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Thread needs a bump. 5/17/2014 10:15:57 PM |