Does anyone practice this. I am wanting to get more into this both for spiritual/health/discipline reasons.

10/10/2010 3:27:46 PM

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"Does anyone practice this."

> billion Muslims, for a month every year, from sunset to sundown.

10/10/2010 3:30:53 PM

I meant on here. There are other religions that have always practiced fasting.

10/10/2010 3:34:21 PM

I did, as a kid, in the way described above (no food no water).

Difficult at first, but your body gets used to it.

10/10/2010 4:04:47 PM

I do this every night from 8 or 9 pm till about 7:30 am the next morning. That's when I break the fast.

10/10/2010 4:13:58 PM

"sunset to sundown"

wtf?

i meant sunrise to sunset. actually, about an hour before sunrise until sunset.

10/10/2010 4:33:39 PM

sounds pretty dumb to me

10/10/2010 4:33:59 PM

I fast for 16 hours, eat for 8


just a matter of preference

10/10/2010 4:45:42 PM

there is no health benefit to fasting that you can't get from eating less and exercising before you eat.

10/10/2010 5:15:59 PM

there are negative health benefits.

10/10/2010 5:22:28 PM

^^ the 1st thing mentioned was for spiritual reasons. that's my primary reason but I know the nature of TWW so i am not going to get into that.

I am wondering if others practice this for anyone of those reasons though.

10/10/2010 6:26:30 PM

life is too short refrain from food....


or in other words

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"Fasting? GoldenGirl 11 187 6:49 PM by KeB this is ludicrous.... skyfallen 5 32 6:47 PM by OldBlueChair"

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10/10/2010 6:49:00 PM

What does fasting have to do with spirituality? Not trying to be rude, just curious.

10/10/2010 7:29:08 PM

i stopped eating for 7 days once; it's not that exciting

10/10/2010 9:24:23 PM

Want to fast.
For spirituality
health
discipline

10/10/2010 9:44:10 PM

I'm Eastern Orthodox and they are big on fasting of a sort. Fast days you're supposed to refrain from meat, dairy, oils, and some other things. I used to fast for Lent (normally longer than the Western version) but I've slacked off in recent years. I did notice the spiritual element, and it made the Easter celebration an even bigger deal.

10/10/2010 10:50:35 PM

I can definitely see how you would be more susceptible to religious hokum if you were starving.

10/10/2010 10:56:58 PM

Nah, I'm usually pretty level in my susceptibility, but I'm way more willing to be sociable with people who make me uncomfortable when doing so means I get to gorge myself on goat after abstaining from good food for a month and a half.

10/11/2010 9:52:22 AM

A fast for us is a 24 hour period without food or drink, once a month and whenever you feel like you need to do it in addition to that.

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"What does fasting have to do with spirituality? Not trying to be rude, just curious."

Not sure about all the religions, but our fasts are preceded by prayer, usually for a special blessing. You'll get hungry at some point during the fast, and you can use that as a reminder that you are placing that spiritual need (the blessing) before your carnal needs (eating). So in short you're making a carnal sacrifice for a spiritual blessing.

10/11/2010 9:58:16 AM

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"life is too short refrain from food...."

THIS.

10/11/2010 10:40:42 AM

this will get you nowhere, except hungry & miserable. just eat.

10/11/2010 10:53:17 AM

^not true


just because it is not conventional, does not mean there is anything wrong with it


look up Intermittent Fasting...tons of research and studies done to show benefits to fasting for periods throughout the day and even working out fasted

10/11/2010 11:11:11 AM

i don't believe it. this is one of those things where if the majority of doctors/the medical community/scientific community don't think it's good, i'm not going for it. i'm staying w/ my original statement.

even if all of them decided it was a great idea...fuck that shit. i just eat.

10/11/2010 11:27:14 AM

I don't see any physical benefit to fasting.

But, why is that even a question? As a matter of fact, the whole point of fasting not to connect, but to DISCONNECT from the physical. It's about feeding the soul and spirit, not the flesh.

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10/11/2010 11:38:41 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Jainism

i dont do it but my parents and most of the family does

10/11/2010 11:52:43 AM

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"i don't believe it. this is one of those things where if the majority of doctors/the medical community/scientific community don't think it's good, i'm not going for it. i'm staying w/ my original statement."

You can believe it or not...it doesn't change the data from recent studies. I find the medical community as a whole to be a joke when it comes to exercise and "diet"

10/11/2010 1:41:39 PM

recent != general consensus

10/11/2010 1:52:09 PM

general consensus != correct

10/11/2010 2:03:28 PM

general consensus > a couple of studies

you're not going to convince me. we can do this all day. fasting is stupid.

10/11/2010 2:45:44 PM

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"I don't see any physical benefit to fasting. "

I thought the benefit to fasting was that since there was no new food being introduced to the body, the body would continue its normal routine and purge itself further (up to a certain point, of course). For instance, we've all seen those products that talk about getting rid of all the caked on crap (literally) inside our bodies. Fasting would put the body into the state to more efficiently remove that.

Or so was the theory I heard. I haven't seen a specific study stating this, but it does have a logical ring to it.

10/11/2010 3:12:54 PM

crap doesn't get caked up inside you unless you have a serious medical condition, which would have put you in the hospital already. your intestines aren't house plumbing.

i'm not really following the logic here. if you're starving yourself, why would your body want to get rid of potential nutrients faster? maybe it does, i'm not a doctor, but that doesn't seem logical to me.

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10/11/2010 3:16:34 PM

fasting to purge would be stupid. "purges" are stupid period though.

10/11/2010 3:41:29 PM

how does fasting = starving ?

the body doesn't even go catabolic until something like 36 hours after having your last meal

10/11/2010 4:01:21 PM

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"starvation: the act of depriving of food"

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"fast: abstaining from food"

as far as i'm concerned, abstaining & depriving are synonyms in this case.

10/11/2010 4:04:33 PM

wow, nice logic

except you're completely mistaken


EDIT: I guess it really depends on the length of the fast, but I still have a hard time comparing fasting to starvation

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10/11/2010 4:05:50 PM

Are you really playing the dictionary game

Fasting is dumb, but it's not fucking starvation

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"Definition of STARVE intransitive verb 1 a : to perish from lack of food b : to suffer extreme hunger 2 a archaic : to die of cold b British : to suffer greatly from cold 3 : to suffer or perish from deprivation "

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"you're not going to convince me. we can do this all day. fasting is stupid."

No one is trying to convince you of anything. They're simply refuting your shit logic and wishing you would stop being a dumb cunt all over their thread. Just go somewhere else.

10/11/2010 4:07:22 PM

aahahahahahah god i love this place.

starving or fasting yourself on purpose is stupid.

10/11/2010 4:24:59 PM

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think you have to play a pretty selective "dictionary game" to support the fact that starving can't be a synonym of fasting. Both words have a lot of definitions and accepted usage: A pretty common definition of starving includes deprivation (generally of food/water/nourishments/whatever) while fasting would definitely include abstaining...

It really gets into splitting hairs on the level of severity, purpose, and POV to say that one couldn't be used as a synonym for the other in a certain context.

Either way, it isn't really worth arguing over

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10/11/2010 4:45:38 PM

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"For instance, we've all seen those products that talk about getting rid of all the caked on crap (literally) inside our bodies."

Watch a video of a colonoscopy and tell me where the "caked on crap" is inside your body. Before one of those they have you have a good poop. That's it. Your body is already great at removing waste, you don't need to do anything extra.

10/12/2010 1:06:38 AM

Don't you have to fast before getting a colonoscopy?

10/12/2010 7:40:37 AM

medically speaking, starvation is when the body starts to break down its own muscle mass to sustain itself.

that usually takes a couple of days without food, and no one here is talking about doing a 2 day fast.

so yeah, in the context of this thread, fasting != starvation, unless you are anorexic to begin with, in which case you are starving all the time.

10/12/2010 10:48:38 AM

I, too, believe that depriving your body of vitamins and nutriets is good for it.

10/12/2010 1:03:03 PM

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"Watch a video of a colonoscopy and tell me where the "caked on crap" is inside your body. Before one of those they have you have a good poop. That's it. Your body is already great at removing waste, you don't need to do anything extra."

Yes. Colon "cleanses" are full of shit (literally and figuratively). The "toxins" and "junk" they pump out of you is just poop.

10/12/2010 1:44:51 PM

aint nothing wrong with Fasting.

10/12/2010 8:48:53 PM

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"I guess it really depends on the length of the fast, but I still have a hard time comparing fasting to starvation"

so as a certified CSE trainer you would recommend fasting while in a training regiment to one of your clients???

But then again any "trainer" who has pictures of himself drinking 40's in his gallery really isn't trying to be taken seriously as a personal trainer...

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10/13/2010 1:30:42 AM

What I follow myself and what I recommend to my clients are two separate things. I never said anyone HAD to fast, it's just my preference and I haven't notice any ill effects from doing so. It also works way better with my schedule, as it's much easier to fit in 2-3 big meals instead of a bunch of tiny ones when there is no difference whatsoever (researched and proven). My biggest grip is that people are making false claims about fasting being bad.

Your other point...seriously? You're going to judge me as a trainer because I have some old pictures in my WOLF WEB photo gallery....really? Grow up.

10/13/2010 3:05:51 PM

I think I'll start fasting after my blood-letting appointment.

This thread is making me hungry.

10/13/2010 4:54:36 PM

I often fast after a way-too-long night of drinking the previous night

Unless drinking Dr. Pepper the next day counts as not fasting

10/13/2010 5:15:32 PM

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"Your other point...seriously? You're going to judge me as a trainer because I have some old pictures in my WOLF WEB photo gallery....really? Grow up. "

Absolutely. And I would expect any person who is looking to pay someone for a service such as personal training to think the same.

It speaks loudly of your professionalism and how you treat your own body esp in a profession such as a personal trainer. Do I want the PT who has pictures of themselves working out, doing healthy activities or the one with pictures of you chugging 40's. If you are trying to sell yourself as a professional you have to think about the image you are projecting. I mean I understand that it's only TWW but at the same time TWW is full of potential clients. Maybe once YOU grow up you will realize that....

10/13/2010 5:26:01 PM

I typically fast for around 23 hours every weekday, but for convenience

10/13/2010 6:45:54 PM