OMG OMG OGM: http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/10/14/opera-11-will-have-extensions

maybe it will get an adblocker as powerful as Adblock Plus, and also an effective script blocker similar to NoScript

10/14/2010 4:54:10 PM

11 versions just to get extensions?

no wonder nobody uses opera

10/14/2010 5:19:43 PM

I thought opera was where fat ladies sang.

10/14/2010 5:22:08 PM

about the only use for Opera is on mobile devices, even then i'm not sure it's the best option.

10/14/2010 6:41:21 PM

^^^to be fair it has had widgets for a while, which are kinda like widgets for the OS X Dock or Windows Vista Sidebar or like AIR applications

and it includes several features, like IRC, Newsgroup access, an e-mail client, a BitTorrent client, a userscript manager, a content blocker, a personal webserver (Unite), a synchronization service (Link), an image-compression service for low-bandwidth situations (Turbo), and developer tools (Dragonfly), that some other browsers only offer via extensions, and it's still gentler on system resources than any other mainstream browser

also via editing of INI files, an extremely high level of customization of the user interface can be accomplished, which would normally require relatively bulky extensions or themes

Opera is my favoritest browser and has been for 3 and a half years, since the early days of Opera 9 (and if I had bothered to read the news in 2005 when Opera became completely free and without ads, it would have been "5 years, since Opera 8.5")

[Edited on October 14, 2010 at 8:30 PM. Reason : also since Opera 10.5 it has frequently been the fastest stable browser

10/14/2010 8:29:59 PM

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"11 versions just to get extensions?"

It really never needed them. It does adblocking, mouse gestures, email, IRC, torrent, etc.

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"about the only use for Opera is on mobile devices"

Someone obviously hasn't used it. The only thing any browser has over opera is that firebug is better than dragonfly.

10/14/2010 9:19:36 PM

not really, Opera's adblocker is harder to update than the ones available for Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and IE; the first three automatically update their filter lists, while IE InPrivate Filtering (which can be set to turn on automatically via a Registry entry, although it's different for IE8 and IE9) must be updated manually but can still be updated while the browser is running...but to update Opera's urlfilter.ini you need to close the browser first (only if you use someone else's list, because it is possible to add and remove entries manually with the browser running, just not in a big batch like in IE or the other browsers)

also it has no multi-process architecture, unlike IE (each tab gets a new process) or Firefox (each plugin gets a new process) or Chrome (each tab, plugin, and even extension gets a new process), so if Flash crashes it's time to relaunch your session

also some sites think Opera is a lesser browser, like the new Google Images and Google Instant haven't been released for Opera (instead we get old-school Images and Google Suggest...which IMO is a good thing), and Amazon hasn't let Opera users use the book previews for a couple years...and for some reason the paging in the Hotmail inbox doesn't work correctly either
Opera Software ASA tries to work around many an issue with a special script called browser.js which is updated continuously and pushed out about once per week; most notably in April it fixed an issue in which YouTube kept telling a bunch of different browsers that their Flash Player was outdated even though it wasn't

now there are a couple major annoyances that have popped up ever since Opera 10.5
first if you right-click a link that is also an image and try to open it in a new or background tab, it doesn't work, even though it does work on links that are not images
also ever since Opera stopped using the JRE directly and switched to the plugin like all other browsers, and then Java used a different type of plugin (npDeployJava1) to address fundamental security issues with the old one (npjp2), Java doesn't work in Opera anymore, at least on Windows
also there are issues with the built-in plugin blocker (Enable On Demand Plugin in opera:config), like it doesn't keep PDFs from auto-loading, so I still recommend the old allblocker.js userscript by ruzanow

10/14/2010 11:06:12 PM

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"Opera's adblocker is harder to update than the ones available for Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and IE; the first three automatically update their filter lists"

I made one urlfilter years ago and have never needed to update it.

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"also it has no multi-process architecture, unlike IE (each tab gets a new process) or Firefox (each plugin gets a new process) or Chrome (each tab, plugin, and even extension gets a new process), so if Flash crashes it's time to relaunch your session"

Opera runs faster and more stable regardless.

10/14/2010 11:24:58 PM

^Get this and be amazed: http://fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/

Also if you use Spybot to Immunize your Windows machine, you're already updating it on the regular, and you'll need to run the immunization again after making use of fanboy's handiwork.

[Edited on October 14, 2010 at 11:31 PM. Reason : Does *your* urlfilter.ini block ads in Hulu and YouTube videos?

10/14/2010 11:31:00 PM

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"also some sites think Opera is a lesser browser"

think?

10/15/2010 10:38:04 AM

It's as standards-compliant as Chrome, and it also implements several forward-looking features that will be in HTML5 and CSS3 and ES5; some organizations just think that it takes too long to test in Opera and that there's too much risk in sending off code that works just fine in Chrome and Firefox and even IE, although they are also correct in assuming there isn't a compelling case for ensuring their code works in Opera, as Yahoo! discovered: http://yuiblog.com/blog/2010/02/16/gbs-update-2010q1/

10/15/2010 10:59:52 AM

it's a pretty good OS but it lacks a decent browser.

10/15/2010 11:17:06 AM

...Opera is a browser, not an OS (although its Widgets runtime does allow many another app to run, and since Opera 10.5 the browser itself didn't need to also be running)

the Desktop (as opposed to Mini or Mobile) version of Opera 11 will run on Windows 2000 and later (98 and later unofficially via KernelEx), MacIntel, Linux, and FreeBSD
Opera 10.6x also runs on Mac OS X PPC 10.4+
Opera 10.1x also runs on Solaris
Opera 9.64 also runs on Windows 95 and later

10/15/2010 8:11:33 PM

That was a modified emacs joke fwiw.

10/16/2010 12:03:52 PM

lewl

and its browser is indeed lacking

10/17/2010 11:39:28 AM

ahaha

[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 12:05 PM. Reason : opera 11g]

10/17/2010 12:05:10 PM

OMG OMG OGM IT'S OUT: http://www.opera.com/browser/next/

get yer extensions here: https://addons.labs.opera.com/

If you'd rather not mess up your profile from the stable version of Opera, use this: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-profile-creator

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 6:17 AM. Reason : well it's alpha but still

10/25/2010 6:16:40 AM

If it can open tabs in IE mode, then I would be set. That was my only reason for switching to ChromePlus.

10/25/2010 7:45:09 AM

regular Chrome has an IE Tab extension and has had one for about a year; I believe all other Chromium-based browsers (like SRWare Iron, Flock 3, and ChromePlus) can use it too

anyway there has been a plugin for a while called MeadCo Neptune, but it doesn't work that well, and it would be awesome if it were possible to make "Opera IE Tab"

Also I have found an analogue for NoScript here: http://my.opera.com/BS-Harou/blog/
Also you can disable plugins individually now, just like in IE, Firefox, and Chrome.

10/25/2010 8:17:08 AM

^yeah...I've tried all of those plugins and extensions and they all really suck. You can't continue sessions except with chromeplus. If Opera could get an elegant solution for an IE mode switch, I would be glad to jump ship.

10/26/2010 6:57:56 AM

ChromePlus sounds extremely sketchy...

10/26/2010 11:58:03 AM