BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Once you vote black, youll vote back 10/18/2010 11:26:03 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
haha 10/18/2010 11:26:24 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that. And "hope and change" ain't all it's cracked up to be. 10/18/2010 11:43:20 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
10/18/2010 11:44:21 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Keep the Change! 10/18/2010 11:45:23 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM. Reason : f]
10/18/2010 11:47:11 AM |
qntmfred retired 40716 Posts user info edit post |
i was certain lewisje would try to make this parody 10/18/2010 11:47:37 AM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
way to blame Obama for the fuck ups of the Bush presidency
go Tea Party! 10/18/2010 11:55:56 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
10/18/2010 11:57:47 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52834 Posts user info edit post |
^^
(not to be construed as any defense of the Bush administration) 10/18/2010 12:19:07 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
you don't think the failing economy is the result of unsustainable economic policies and massive deficit spending on the part of the Republicans during the Bush presidency?
its not like it just suddenly happened the moment we elected a black guy 10/18/2010 12:36:09 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
^i don't think thats what people are pissed about.....
at least not the tea partiers i know
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 12:48 PM. Reason : i guess my assumptions are anecdotal then] 10/18/2010 12:46:58 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
He isnt doin shit snewf
his election was nothing more than a historical token.
and its is fault because like a bad email address he didnt deliver
change? looks like the same ol shit to me
reaching across the aisle?? ha ive heard so much partisan crap comin out of this jig's mouth, hes so fuckin political its not funny
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 12:54 PM. Reason : d] 10/18/2010 12:53:22 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
^^ the tea partiers I know are upset about a number of things and I'm sympathetic to a lot of their concerns - I just worry that their desire for mass deregulation might be taken advantage of by the hyper-wealthy in order to make a buck, yet again, on the backs of the working class. I also find the religious zealotry that you sometimes see among that group more than a little distasteful
^ holy shit, a political president? call the press - even if they are a little media biased 10/18/2010 1:09:50 PM |
mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
I am pretty sure the Tea Partiers are against ANY taxation (read: enabling government spending), regardless of the side of the aisle.
Most of the tea parties were started as a way to voice opinions on FairTax. 10/18/2010 1:10:12 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Lessons from Obama: The neo-cons make the mess, had you clean it up, they change their name, come back, and kick you out 10/18/2010 1:10:27 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
thats no change from any other politician, true! 10/18/2010 1:10:36 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
T-minus 2 years, 19 days 10/18/2010 1:12:03 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most of the tea parties were started as a way to voice opinions on FairTax." |
This is mostly true, yes.
But it is misleading to suggest that these groups were started as grass roots organizations by and for the middle class. They are actually VERY well funded NGOs seeking to influence public opinion in ways that benefit extremely wealthy conservative organizations. (Especially the Koch family.)10/18/2010 1:14:03 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Tea party success = American disaster 10/18/2010 1:17:14 PM |
red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
You know, everytime a liberal says "he is cleaning up Bushs mess caused by Bushs policies" they never seem to mention specifically what policies they are talking about 10/18/2010 1:44:22 PM |
TragicNature All American 11805 Posts user info edit post |
A beggar on every corner... 10/18/2010 1:45:07 PM |
qntmfred retired 40716 Posts user info edit post |
linguistically, the OP is a real stretch 10/18/2010 1:47:55 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^thats because no one has told them what to say to that question. My guess it will be the tax cuts for the rich (which somehow now people are starting to understand went to everyone) or "deregulations man..." but you can ask which deregulations and you will just be right back where you started.
Bush was unpopular among fiscal conservatives bc of reckless spending. His last year we had a record deficit of over 400Billion. We have been over a trillion a year since, plus that trillion on the "stimulus" really brought us back like gangbusters. 10/18/2010 1:49:10 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
First of all the Bush Tax cuts did not raise revenue to pay for themselves nor did it stimulate the economy as much as they predicted The removal of regulations on wall street that occurred during the clinton and bush terms by GOP congress the idea that wall street banks would regulate themselves Cutting capital gains taxes below clinton years levels tax breaks that encourage outsourcing
and many many more 10/18/2010 1:51:22 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52834 Posts user info edit post |
Bush was only one of many who contributed to our fiscal problems (although he was a particularly bad one). In any event, the fix for a government growing out of control is certainly not more leftist politics. 10/18/2010 1:52:56 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
And i like the characterization that liberals are the ones recieving the welfare while teabaggers are working hard, when statistics show there are as many white trash tea baggers on welfare as anyone else If tea bagger politicians ever messed with their money you'll see who's on welfare real quick 10/18/2010 1:53:30 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
In times of economic crisis, govt has had to spend more money, the opposite has been tried and failed repeatedly, here and around the world
healthcare is up for debate, but its a new direction, we've tried the old, obama got elected, he got his bill passed, live with it dont complain till we have seen some results
but the same old, free market cry is wearing thin with anyone with a memory and common sense how many times are we gonna dig ourselves a hole before we learn how to regulate the market so it can function properly for a long period of time 10/18/2010 1:56:03 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
^care to tell me where the free market failed?
Sure you have corrupt people everywhere, the free market does its role to prevent as much damage to the most people. Enron didnt fuck over 99% of the population. The govt securing and buying trillions of dollars in mortgages, establishing a new right to homeownership, certainly had more of a widespread effect. 10/18/2010 2:11:20 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^that is not what created the giant bubble, not even close
im too tired to explain right now 10/18/2010 3:34:26 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
I keep having this dream that the GOP sweeps the house and senate in Nov. And I'm on the news with a giant "YOU'RE NEXT" in front of the white house. 10/18/2010 3:36:53 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
Cycles are indeed fun.
the pendulum just continuously goes from side to side every 8 years or so.
adults working hard to act like children
when it really, really doesn't make a fuck. 10/18/2010 3:40:30 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Why I dislike Obama... He killed NASA. Instead of spending all that stupid money on healthcare reform that's going to cost more problems then it solves, spend it on research and development or the next best way to take over the world with pennies on the dollar. 10/18/2010 3:44:13 PM |
qntmfred retired 40716 Posts user info edit post |
i thought he increased NASA's budget 10/18/2010 3:46:01 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
it's not QUITE time to indulge in a new planet.
this one isn't completely plundered yet!
Shit, we haven't even had our Holy War yet!
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM. Reason : durrrr] 10/18/2010 3:47:10 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
so following Snewfs logic - All the economic success of Bill Clinton came from the hard work of Reagan and Bush senior.
Cool. 10/18/2010 3:48:32 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
or from Carter if you really wanna play that game. 10/18/2010 3:49:55 PM |
qntmfred retired 40716 Posts user info edit post |
or Bill Gates if you're really serious
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 3:50 PM. Reason : super cereal] 10/18/2010 3:50:31 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
chit chat politics thread 10/18/2010 3:50:38 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
checked his 4 or so posts
didn't see anything that would lend to such "logic"
keep hammerin', fella 10/18/2010 3:51:23 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
When I hear someone say Obama killed NASA, i wonder how they got into college 10/18/2010 3:54:27 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
I never wonder how anyone got into college
the biggest dipshits I've ever met all went to college
it ain' hard to do, playa. 10/18/2010 3:56:17 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
lolz 10/18/2010 4:01:02 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i wonder how they got into college" |
By pure awesomeness
By Killed, I mean that projects are halted and a number of jobs were cut in that aspect. Even CNN covered this earlier this month with a number of people being laid off. Although, admittedly, we have more pressing issues at hand then space exploration, but NASA tends to give kids hopes and give national pride (a bit we are lacking besides the whole us vs. terrorists).
So when is the government going to tax breathable air for revenue generation?10/18/2010 4:03:02 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
some of these people need to pick up a newspaper once in a while or stop watching fox news 10/18/2010 4:03:14 PM |
titans78 All American 4035 Posts user info edit post |
The spending is clearly out of control, but I don't see how anyone on either side being elected is going to be able to get it back into control without basically conceding there is a good chance they won't get reelected. Because whoever comes in and cuts back spending is going to anger so many groups because the only way to get it back in control is to cut the budget on everyone across the board. That goes from military to welfare to even education. The out of control spending has gone back more than Bush or Obama. I'd def. vote Republic if I felt they would come in and get spending under control but I don't see that happening. Money might be spent differently, but it will still be spent.
And most likely with those cuts, will have to be tax raises as well. I find it hard to believe we will elect/find someone willing to be unpopular enough to fix our country which is what it is going to take. 10/18/2010 4:04:11 PM |
qntmfred retired 40716 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NASA tends to give kids hopes and give national pride" |
go back a few decades and maybe
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 4:05 PM. Reason : younguns nowadays are all about new kids on the block, power rangers and justin bieber]10/18/2010 4:04:11 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Ok well you can word it a lot better than you did, he killed one program of many programs.
but really he did what most tea baggers would like, privatizing near earth orbit space travel its not only gonna save NASA money, but its gonna open up a whole new space tourism market and put US out in front of the world yet again
[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ^] 10/18/2010 4:04:53 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I only know nerdy kids. Oh well, fuck our current and future generation. We in the hole anyhows, lets just vote the best guy to give us more fake money and worry about national debt till the next president.
Also, do kids still watch power rangers? I grew up on that in Japan. Wouldn't think that they are still viable. 10/18/2010 4:11:42 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Fox news is not as bias as YOU people like to think. 10/18/2010 6:31:06 PM |