aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/CigaretteProductWarningLabels/default.htm
really? i mean, give me a break.
1) new labels aren't going to persuade anyone to quit. Everyone knows the dangers, and most don't give a shit. 2) maybe shit like this is why we can't have better medicines and the like. The FDA is too busy doing shit like this instead of reviewing the studies on drugs like Avandia.
what a waste of fucking time and money. yaaaaaaay nanny state!
what's next? pictures of fat people on Doritos bags and McDonald's milkshakes?] 11/13/2010 11:01:25 PM |
llama All American 841 Posts user info edit post |
Did someone hack the FDA website? No way the proposed graphics are real.
11/13/2010 11:12:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
This is what happens when you live in a country created by puritans. Gotta browbeat smokers on top of taxing them and already having a mountain of anti-smoking programs. 11/13/2010 11:49:11 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Cool, they've made cigarette trading cards for the kids.
"What a lovely day, I think I might
HHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG"
[Edited on November 14, 2010 at 12:11 AM. Reason : I demand photos of fat women on beer bottles.]
[Edited on November 14, 2010 at 12:11 AM. Reason : god I could really go for a smoke right now] 11/14/2010 12:07:10 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
I don't even smoke but I kind of want to start collecting these, if they're even real.
[Edited on November 14, 2010 at 2:13 AM. Reason : .] 11/14/2010 2:13:29 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Cigarettes, now with a 40% chance of bubbles
WTF does this have to do with anything?
Cigarettes, now with a 60% chance of lightening
This one might actually be effective at the goal, its not cartoony, and is health related. Many of them look almost like collectors items.
Joe Camel is too cartoony, therefore it appeals to kids, but if its the FDA putting cartoons all over cigarettes, that's no problem.
Quote : | "what's next? pictures of fat people on Doritos bags" |
I'd buy Gorditos.
[Edited on November 14, 2010 at 2:17 AM. Reason : .]11/14/2010 2:14:46 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Supplanter: Cigarettes, now with a 40% chance of bubbles
WTF does this have to do with anything?" |
Are you a heavy smoker?
Cause to me bubble girl is the most compelling of them all to me.11/14/2010 3:19:19 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
not as bad as australia's packaging:
11/14/2010 10:06:38 AM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Ha, the example "Brand" label on all those looks like some packaging for some tampons or something.
Those are fucking ridiculous. Tax dollars actually went towards creating those images... 11/14/2010 5:24:01 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
True, though getting people to stop smoking will save dollars, tax and otherwise, down the line.
A couple of those looked like they might be effective, but for the most part they're inane. I especially at the "cigarettes are addictive one." Trust me, we know. 99.99% of packs of cigarettes have to be going to people like me who are already thoroughly addicted and aware of it.
The effective ones are the ones that aren't abstract, that put gross images with concepts that we can rationalize away. The lung and mouth cancer ones work. 11/14/2010 5:30:43 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^^oops. just google the australian packaging. i think it's something like 90% of one side has to be a graphic picture of cancer or something and 25% of the other side.
[Edited on November 14, 2010 at 5:32 PM. Reason : .] 11/14/2010 5:31:45 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/11/14/802255/cigarette-giants-put-out-over.html
Cigarette giants put out over global restraints
Quote : | "As sales to developing nations become ever more important to giant tobacco companies, they are stepping up efforts to fight tough restrictions on the marketing of cigarettes.
Companies like Philip Morris International and British American Tobacco are contesting limits on advertising in Britain, bigger health warnings in South America and higher cigarette taxes in the Philippines and Mexico. They are also spending billions on lobbying and promotional campaigns in Africa, and in one case providing undisclosed financing for TV commercials in Australia.
The industry has ramped up its efforts in advance of a gathering in Uruguay this week of public health officials from 171 nations, who plan to shape guidelines to enforce a global anti-smoking treaty.
Earlier this year, Philip Morris International sued the government of Uruguay, saying its tobacco regulations were excessive. World Health Organization officials say the suit represents an effort by the industry to intimidate the country, as well as other nations attending the conference, that are considering strict marketing requirements for tobacco.
Uruguay's law mandates that health warnings cover 80 percent of cigarette packages. It also limits each brand, like Marlboro, to one package design, so that alternate designs don't mislead smokers into believing the products inside are less harmful.
The lawsuit against Uruguay, filed at a World Bank affiliate in Washington, seeks unspecified damages for lost profits.
"They're using litigation to threaten low- and middle-income countries," says Dr. Douglas Bettcher, head of the WHO's Tobacco Free Initiative.
Uruguay's gross domestic profit is half the size of the company's $66 billion in annual sales.
Peter Nixon, a vice president and spokesman for Philip Morris International, said the company was complying with every nation's marketing laws while selling a lawful product for adult consumers. He said the company's lawsuits were intended to combat what it felt were "excessive" regulations and to protect its trademark and commercial property rights.
Cigarette companies are aggressively recruiting new customers in developing nations, Bettcher said, to replace those who are quitting or dying in the United States and Europe, where smoking rates have fallen precipitously. Worldwide cigarette sales are rising 2 percent a year.
But the number of countries adopting tougher rules, as well as the global treaty, underscore the breadth of the battleground between tobacco and public health interests in legal and political arenas from Latin America to Africa to Asia.
The cigarette companies work together to fight some strict policies and go their separate ways on others. For instance, Philip Morris USA, a division of Altria Group, helped negotiate and supported the anti-smoking legislation passed by Congress last year and did not join a lawsuit filed by Winston-Salem-based R.J. Reynolds, Lorillard and other tobacco companies against the Food and Drug Administration. So far, it is not protesting the agency's new rules, proposed last week, requiring graphic images with health warnings on cigarette packs.
But Philip Morris International, the separate company spun out of Altria in 2008 to expand the company's presence in foreign markets, has been especially aggressive in fighting new restrictions overseas.
Other nations targeted
It has not only sued Uruguay but also Brazil, arguing that images the government wants to put on cigarette packages do not accurately depict the health effects of smoking and "vilify" tobacco companies. The pictures depict more grotesque health effects than the smaller labels recommended in the United States, including one showing a fetus with the warning that smoking can cause spontaneous abortion.
In Ireland and Norway, Philip Morris subsidiaries are suing over prohibitions on store displays.
In Australia, where the government announced a plan that would require cigarettes to be in plain brown or white packaging to make them less attractive to buyers, a Philip Morris official directed an opposition media campaign during the federal elections last summer, according to documents obtained by an Australian television program and later obtained by The New York Times.
The $5 million campaign, purporting to come from small store owners, was also partly financed by British American and Imperial Tobacco. The Philip Morris official approved strategies, budgets, ad buys and media interviews, according to the documents.
Nixon, the spokesman, said Philip Morris made no secret of its financing of that effort.
"We have helped them, not controlled them," he said.
Nixon said that Philip Morris agreed that smoking is harmful and supported "reasonable" regulations where none exist.
"The packages definitely need health warnings, but they've got to be a reasonable size," he said. "We thought 50 percent was reasonable. Once you take it up to 80 percent, there's no space for trademarks to be shown. We thought that was going too far."
On the defensive
In courts around the world, the tobacco giants find themselves on the defensive far more than playing offense. The WHO and its treaty encourage governments and individuals to take legal action against cigarette corporations, which have encountered growing numbers of lawsuits from smokers and health care systems in Brazil, Canada, Israel, Italy, Nigeria, Poland and Turkey.
But in other parts of the world, notably Indonesia, the fifth-largest cigarette market, which has little regulation, tobacco companies market their products in ways that are prohibited elsewhere. In Indonesia, cigarette ads run on TV and before movies; billboards dot the highways; companies appeal to children through concerts and sports events; cartoon characters adorn packages; and stores sell to children.
Officials in Indonesia say they depend on tobacco jobs, as well as the revenue from excise taxes on cigarettes. Indonesia receives $2.5 billion a year from Philip Morris International alone.
"In the U.S., they took down billboards, agreed not to sponsor music events, no longer use the Marlboro cowboy," said Matthew L. Myers, president of the Washington-based Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. "They now do all of those things overseas."" |
Interesting how the tobacco companies are using tactics overseas that would land them in deep shit in the US. A lot of them are in an ethical grey area, but intentionally targeting children is not, and they have no problem doing it.11/14/2010 6:47:42 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
^ this is the main argument i have against legalization of most drugs. 11/14/2010 8:39:56 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
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When I was a young lad I would have thought that was awesome
These idiots are completely out of touch.11/15/2010 5:17:24 AM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
They should've purchased their images from a professional place like istockphoto instead of yahoo image search. 11/15/2010 11:13:29 AM |
rtc407 All American 6217 Posts user info edit post |
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