Anyone done it or known someone that has done it? What is the process?

12/22/2010 8:02:18 PM

Yes, and yes.

The process is:

Come up with an idea, sketch it out on paper.
Sign up as a developer and pay the 99 bucks
Download xcode
Learn objective C
Write your app
Submit to Apple
Wait
Profit.

12/22/2010 8:42:22 PM

no, no one has ever done this before.

12/22/2010 8:51:46 PM

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"Download xcode Learn objective C Write your app"

Lost me here.

12/22/2010 9:11:30 PM

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"Come up with an idea, sketch it out on paper. Sign up as a developer and pay the 99 bucks Download xcode Learn objective C Write your app Pay an Indian freelancer $200 for poorly coded, poorly documented piece of shit Submit to Apple Wait Profit."

12/22/2010 9:23:17 PM

In Search Of: Indian freelancer

12/22/2010 9:29:59 PM

Actually it's more like 1,500-2,500 for a small app, and 5-7,000 for an app with any specialized or novel code in it.

Add an extra 20-30% to that number for a US contract developer. But Ernie is right, it's pretty shit code (the foreign guys anyway, most of the US contractors do pretty good stuff).

12/22/2010 11:28:03 PM

you missed a step

own a machine running osx to run xcode on

12/23/2010 12:52:21 AM

I just want to feed ideas to Noen and split that shit 50/50

12/23/2010 1:19:16 AM

I am an iPhone developer by trade. Hardest part is having good design and ideas. Developing isn't too bad, obj c is a fairly simple. Building an app that looks good is the most important part, no matter how awesome it is no one will play/use it if it looks shitty. My team is developing an ecommerce platform for iOS, android and mobile web, we don't worry too much about design outside of ux, clients eventually hire design firms to prettify our stuff.

12/23/2010 1:31:41 AM

just make a flash app

12/23/2010 9:49:58 AM

thought they allowed flash export from adobe now? Or did they revoke that again?

12/23/2010 10:25:17 AM

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" I have a great idea! My idea, your coding skills, 90/10 split. 10% OF THIS IDEA WILL BE MILLIONS. Please don't flag this post, this is a serious business guys."

12/23/2010 12:13:47 PM

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"Client: “I want something breakthrough, something no one’s ever seen before. But proven.” Me: “So you want proven breakthrough?” Client: “Exactly.”"

12/23/2010 1:56:55 PM

Actually - have you investigated a web app? It handles 90% of what I needed for our internal stuff, and you write it in familiar HTML/XML with the addition of several flags to add in card effects or whatever else you want it to do.

Added bonus: it translates almost seamlessly to WebOS.

12/23/2010 11:10:57 PM

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"thought they allowed flash export from adobe now? Or did they revoke that again?"

last I heard, Packager for iPhone was a-OK again

also there are commercial SDKs for Visual Studio, but idk about any way to make iPhone apps from Linux

12/24/2010 1:18:00 AM

^there aren't any SDKs for visual studio. The only thing you can use is the monotouch framework which uses C# and a set of classes that just implement all the cocoa touch stuff, and even then you have to have a Mac. haven't looked at it personally, but I see no reason to use it unless you're just *that* against using objC (which, might I add, is my favorite language ever. It's just so elegant.)

Developing for iOS really isn't that hard. The biggest challenge I've seen people have is getting their head around proper memory management, especially if they're coming from something like a .NET language. Other than that, as long as you have a good grasp of OOP (and that in ObjC, pretty much everything is async - you send an object a message to do something to itself along with a callback method; it tells your callback whenever (if ever) it gets around to doing it) you should be fine. ObjC pretty much forces you to code in the proper way. Just keep the Apple dev references handy (you won't memorize everything in cocoa touch, don't even try) and become intimately familiar with Instruments.

12/27/2010 8:42:37 AM

Objective C is many things. Elegant is not one of those things.

12/27/2010 8:55:46 AM

^

12/27/2010 9:32:27 AM

Well I like it. So there.

12/27/2010 10:04:13 AM

I'm slowly coming around--by which I mean that I think Objective-C is not quite as bad as AIDS--but yeah, given the choice, I don't think I'd ever program in Objective-C. I'm at the point now where I no longer feel like I'm programming versus the language, but it still feels like I'm just using a shitty tool because that's all I have available to me. It's like trying to hammer a nail in with the handle of a screwdriver.

12/27/2010 11:55:27 AM

[Edited on December 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM. Reason : i am above that kind of trolling]

12/27/2010 11:58:41 AM

“elegance” depends on what you value.

12/27/2010 1:17:10 PM

wtf smart quotes

12/27/2010 1:28:14 PM

It’s built into Snow Leopard. Go to the “Edit” menu then “Substituions” then “Smart Quotes."

12/27/2010 2:58:58 PM

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" “Smart Quotes." "

apparently not too smart

[Edited on December 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM. Reason : crazy quotes]

12/27/2010 3:04:46 PM

ha yeah, if i don't put another character after it, it doesn't process the last smart quote...

12/27/2010 3:30:07 PM

they are awful and distracting

stop it

12/27/2010 3:52:24 PM

Adam Saltsman, who is a pretty badass dude, just released the source code for Canabalt (along with the iOS port of flixel, his flash game framework). Download this, check it out, and learn!

https://github.com/ericjohnson/canabalt-ios

12/31/2010 11:25:47 AM

I am a fan of ObjC.

12/31/2010 3:27:12 PM

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"Added bonus: it translates almost seamlessly to WebOS."

yay! webOS owns

12/31/2010 4:45:19 PM