ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
what kind of player will he be? what team(s) have a need for a Cam Newton? 12/22/2010 9:22:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
upside is Michael Vick
downside is Marcus Vick 12/22/2010 9:23:59 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
NFL thread.
College football thread.
Draft thread.
Lock
Suspend
Terminate 12/22/2010 9:31:44 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
it's an NFL subject about a college player
this transcends threads
(and NYM is in Cali) 12/22/2010 9:33:24 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
elevator in my crib cause it's five floors not expectin you to have one inside yours Vince Young, suicide doors life's a bitch, now die for her 12/22/2010 9:49:07 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
why they gotta be black comparisons? upside of steve young, downside of eric crouch 12/22/2010 9:49:20 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
Why are we talking about dudes that are 6'0-6'2 and 200-215 lbs in this thread? 12/22/2010 9:55:50 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Upside Vince Young
Downside Troy Smith 12/22/2010 9:59:09 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Who can tell me what these are (w/o googling obviously)?12/22/2010 10:45:33 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62436 Posts user info edit post |
dont know yet, all the agents are at his dad's place 12/22/2010 10:50:07 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
zing! 12/22/2010 10:50:54 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
I don't have to google to know they're doors that swing open toward the rear of the car (opposite of normal). 12/22/2010 10:57:35 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Redskins
^^^^ yeah, who couldnt tell you that? and I got em
[Edited on December 22, 2010 at 11:23 PM. Reason : D] 12/22/2010 11:22:45 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I would say more upside = big Vick
Downside = JaMarcus Russell 12/22/2010 11:23:57 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
I guarantee the Redskins draft him. Especially since the last Auburn QB they drafted turned out so well. 12/22/2010 11:26:53 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
perfect fit... Luck wont make it to him, Shanahan loves a big arm 12/23/2010 12:01:39 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72826 Posts user info edit post |
He's as pretty as Sanchez! 12/23/2010 9:41:22 AM |
costigan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
bust 12/23/2010 10:02:18 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
He's not there yet. I can't wait till they make him give that stiff arm trophy back. 12/23/2010 10:33:44 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Upside = McNabb
Downside = Aaron Brooks
Likely scenario = Tavaris Jackson 12/23/2010 2:52:55 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Will he be better than Terrell Pryor?
I say definitively maybe. 12/23/2010 8:11:15 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Good enough that the Panthers will think he's the answer and draft him
Bad enough to not be the answer and stick us with another freshmen QB and a 2 win season in 2011 12/23/2010 10:51:10 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Anything has got to be better than Clawlson. Look at how Sanchez came into the league, we could hope for something like that happening. 12/23/2010 10:55:57 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Sam Bradford hasn't done bad either. Nor has Colt McCoy (kind of) 12/23/2010 11:13:43 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look at how Sanchez came into the league, we could hope for something like that happening." |
12 TD and 20 Int?
63 passer rating?
Shoot for the stars!12/23/2010 11:18:42 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
12/24/2010 6:42:04 AM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
bizzybump 3/31/2011 4:52:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39233 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6277093
come on Warren, I thought you were better than that 3/31/2011 4:52:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
i think he is partially right 3/31/2011 4:59:04 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
Cam newton will be fucking worthless. Doesn't the kid always play in shotgun 3/31/2011 5:51:06 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^You're thinking of Tom Brady 3/31/2011 5:53:16 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
peyton manning, too, is worthless 3/31/2011 5:53:28 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Very disingenuous – has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement that continually invites trouble and makes him believe he is above the law – does not command respect from teammates and always will struggle to win a locker room. Only a one-year producer. Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness – is not punctual, seeks shortcuts and sets a bad example. Immature and has had issues with authority. Not dependable." |
http://deadspin.com/#!5786964/one-nfl-draft-expert-really-thinks-cam-newtons-a-dick3/31/2011 6:02:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
the guy who wrote that stuff wrote what some NFL scout said...the guy who wrote the stuff never even talked to Cam Newton
what kinda of hack ass journalist wastes time calling out somebody for having a fake smile? 3/31/2011 6:04:24 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
^hahahah
He was prolly an alabama fan or some other SEC school.
hate hate hate 3/31/2011 6:09:35 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Upside - Ben Roethlisberger
Downside - Vince Young 3/31/2011 11:59:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
upside - Joe Montana downside - Ryan Leaf 4/1/2011 12:30:01 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Warren Moon think all the criticism is racially-based.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6277093 4/1/2011 12:50:23 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
10 posts up boss, why the thread was bttt'd in the first place 4/1/2011 12:51:59 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Upside - Ben Roethlisberger" |
Quote : | "Warren Moon think all the criticism is racially-based." |
If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones.4/1/2011 10:06:31 AM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
How about we wait until he plays a game before we comment on him? 4/1/2011 10:16:36 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^yeh, nobody ever has opinions on incoming rookies 4/1/2011 10:17:31 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
i just hope when he plays that game and we get to comment, it's not for the panthers. i'm trying to think of other QBs that might be "slick" like that article makes him sound. pretty much the only one i could see is Jimmy Clausen 4/1/2011 10:21:25 AM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of those traits the scout listed you could tell from just watching him on the sidelines. I mean he was acting "too cool for school" even when they won the NCAA title. 4/1/2011 11:24:23 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones." |
He's the same height as Vince Young, about 10 pounds heavier, always plays from the shotgun, and has pretty much the exact same 40 time. I'd say the comparisons are valid.
[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ]4/1/2011 12:30:02 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^If Vince Young is actually 6-5 235 I'd be shocked
I still consider young's game much closer to Vick's than I would Newton but I'll fully concede this along with the size/weight could just be my eyes playing tricks on me.
Also, I like Vick's game anyway so no real judgement on styles or etc. Vick throws much better than he's given credit for I think the only drawback is durability. 4/1/2011 1:59:08 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
I'm inclined to disagree with the wife beater and drunk driver. 4/1/2011 2:05:49 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
If the Panthers draft this clown with the #1 overall pick they should just fold the franchise.
He is going to suck total nutsac in the pros.
Take Dareus and look for a QB next year.
There isnt a single good QB in this draft so why draft one just to prove it? 4/3/2011 1:04:32 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you really look at newtons game,size, and skillset I'd say he'll end up being closer to Roethlisberger or even maybe Joe Flacco than he is to Vick or Young, he much bigger than young or vick and can definitely see where someone could see it as racially based because there are more white QBs he's like than black ones." |
He has size like Roethlisberger or Flacco. But that is really all he has in common with them.
He runs and passes like Vince Young. Strong arm, questionable accuracy, suspect decision-making. Also, much like Young, he has major character and maturity questions. And as noted, Young is almost the same size.
In summation, he should be compared to Vince Young.4/3/2011 2:19:20 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
newton has total shit for footwork, completely collapsed against Oregon in the title game, isn't known as a thinking QB, has almost no collegiate QB experience, and he's a run first QB in a pass first era of the NFL.
He looks like a 3rd round pick to me if you want to take a flyer on a guy that could maybe be one of the worst starters in the league on any given week.
Cant believe anyone would risk their franchise on such a raw project without that much upside. 4/3/2011 10:34:21 PM |