on Apple getting Blu-Ray in their next Macbook? I could go external but.... I would rather not...

1/4/2011 12:11:22 AM

blu ray would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there.

1/4/2011 12:26:10 AM

won't happen, jobs is on the digital-distribution-is-the-future-of-media train.

[Edited on January 4, 2011 at 12:44 AM. Reason : http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/03/final-cut-updates-due-in-march-or-april-steve-jobs-still-sour-o/]

1/4/2011 12:43:02 AM

I guess I might have to look into external then.

With DVD's still making good over the blu-ray push, I think DVD will continue to go that route. Jobs could be right I guess. With 720p movies on itunes, it's hard to think that people really want more than that... then again, watching blu-ray is also really cool in its own right.

1/4/2011 11:33:03 AM

DVD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there.

CD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there.



Sometimes Steve Jobs is an idiot.

1/4/2011 11:40:53 AM

Quote :

"With 720p movies on itunes, it's hard to think that people really want more than that..."

I want all the p I can get. I was disappointed that the planet earth blu-rays were only 720p. It's not because I could objectively tell the difference, but because I know that there is one.

1/4/2011 11:50:36 AM

^ and it's not necessarily about wanting 'more' than that. I have blu rays, and Id like to be able to play them on my laptop. I shouldn't have to purchase/rent them again for laptop viewing.

1/4/2011 12:05:57 PM

^ you don't have to...you can buy an external player for it

1/4/2011 12:28:29 PM

not convenient on a plane, train, coffee shop, or most places one would take a laptop.

[Edited on January 4, 2011 at 2:59 PM. Reason : but you know that. you just have to be pedantic. ]

1/4/2011 2:59:20 PM

ibt "who the hell still uses a laptop anymore"

1/4/2011 3:35:31 PM

Quote :

"DVD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there. CD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there. Sometimes Steve Jobs is an idiot."

to be fair Jobs has eliminated the physical drive in the macbook air.

1/6/2011 10:20:07 PM

It will never happen. Jobs is counting on downloads to leap frog blu-ray

1/6/2011 10:27:36 PM

Well it would ultimately benefit Sony to give the blu-ray drive to Mac... If people are using the computers and medium, I think a lot more companies and consumers would actually start buying blu-rays to store data or watch movies...

I can see why Steve Jobs thinks he has the upper hand here, but he could force the consumer to pay the royalties and have the option to upgrade should the consumer choose to git it.

Aside from that, I'm still wondering why HDMI hasn't hit the macbook pro or imac yet...

1/7/2011 1:18:35 AM

I just use a MiniDisplay Port>HDMI adapter on both my MB and MBP. Works perfectly.

1/7/2011 1:35:22 AM

^that's if you don't want audio though...

1/7/2011 1:41:58 AM

Well, actually I have one of these....Minidisplay/USB audio

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=5969&seq=1&format=2



Only downside really is that it doesnt support 5.1

[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 3:43 AM. Reason : .]

1/7/2011 3:42:13 AM

Quote :

"^that's if you don't want audio though..."

Actually all current MB/MBPs support audio through the mini-display port

1/7/2011 7:43:46 AM

Quote :

"DVD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there. CD would take away sales from itunes and requires apple to pay royalties. they wont ever put one in there. Sometimes Steve Jobs is an idiot."

the ITMS made its debut after DVD and CD were well-established formats in the marketplace. blu-ray was made popular afterwards.

1/7/2011 9:16:08 AM

Quote :

"Well it would ultimately benefit Sony to give the blu-ray drive to Mac..."

Why? Blu-ray has a bigger marketshare than Apple already.

1/7/2011 9:24:56 AM

Sony is bigger than Apple.

1/7/2011 11:28:59 AM

I don’t think Apple has implemented the secure path required by the AACS license, so there’s no legal way to play the movies yet anyway.

1/12/2011 9:26:22 AM

I just can't fathom how a $2k laptop doesn't come with a blu-ray drive, or even offer the option. but have no fear, when they finally offer it it'll be a HUGE deal even though non-mac laptops will have had em for like a decade at that point

1/12/2011 12:45:36 PM

Revolutionary!

1/12/2011 1:00:27 PM

^^ it might happen with the next OS revision.

They haven't found the need to kowtow the the content industries demands on how they write their OS yet.

1/12/2011 1:03:00 PM

mac apologists

1/12/2011 1:24:10 PM

^

1/12/2011 2:58:57 PM

your holding it wrong

1/12/2011 8:34:05 PM

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD

You can’t play them in Linux either yet without breaking the law.

You can buy the drive after market for mastering, etc., but for consumer movie playback there is no easy way yet.

1/12/2011 8:47:32 PM

mac apologists

1/12/2011 9:52:21 PM

dvd support is an artifact of previous versions of osx pre-itunes. Blu-ray support would require an h264 decoder (which they already have) a VC1 decoder (which they dont have), new software they'd have to write and support, and licensing and compliance costs for decrypting content from the discs.

And in return they wouldn't get any benefit. People who buy apple computers already buy into the itunes store so they dont care about blu ray support. Even if they would like blu ray support, lack of support isn't going to prevent them from buying a mac.

1/12/2011 10:48:49 PM

Quote :

"People who buy apple computers already buy into the itunes store so they dont care about blu ray support"

So what they buy their movies twice now?

Quote :

"Even if they would like blu ray support, lack of support isn't going to prevent them from buying a mac."

Certainly it'll rarely be a sole reason not to buy one, but I'm sure it's often a contributing factor.

1/12/2011 11:38:12 PM

Cost of adding blu-ray to osx = z. Cost due to loss of itunes revenue to blu-ray = y. Total cost of adding blu-ray = y+z=x per mac.

Total units sold pre-blu-ray = A
Total units sold post-blu-ray = B

Profit pre-blu-ray=P
Profit pre-blu-ray=P-X

if B(P-X)>A*P then apple adds blu-ray to macs

I'd wager the difference between A and B is nothing.

1/13/2011 12:07:06 AM

You guys realize that Apple makes almost nothing from iTunes sales of music or movies?

There is no business justification that Apple can honestly make for iTunes vs. Blu-ray. They would make an insanely higher margin from Blu-Ray drives than they do from iTunes downloads.

1/13/2011 12:09:39 AM

Dude he has an equation. It must be true

1/13/2011 12:19:19 AM

I think an option should still be there. Buy it from the Apple store and you get choice (A) DVD and CD support or (b) Blu-ray read write support with DVD and CD (+$300).

throw the royalties in the price and you've you got profit for Apple and profit for customer.

1/13/2011 12:33:48 AM

It's Apple, though.

They don't care what you think.

1/13/2011 8:49:02 AM

Quote :

"You guys realize that Apple makes almost nothing from iTunes sales of music or movies? There is no business justification that Apple can honestly make for iTunes vs. Blu-ray. They would make an insanely higher margin from Blu-Ray drives than they do from iTunes downloads. "

even if y is 0 (which its not) then the equation is:

B(P-z)>A*P

its still a hit to profit for no benefit.

1/14/2011 4:45:57 PM