Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone here ever grown Salvia Divinorum? I'm thinking about buying a plant so I can chew the leaves. It's supposed to put you in a pretty cool mental state. It's not like that shitty fake stuff from the gas stations that kids smoke, rather the real plant that indians used to use for rituals, meditating etc. It's totally legal, I just don't know anyone personally who's tried chewing the leaves. 2/3/2011 4:19:49 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
lol ... this topic has never been discussed before on TWW!! 2/3/2011 4:21:26 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
stfu... salvia has been discussed, but not growing the actual plant and chewing the leaves. 2/3/2011 4:23:20 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
gtfo noob. 2/3/2011 4:25:11 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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have you done any google research, and following reading. There are a couple of very informative sites on the web.
It takes quite a few leaves, and they taste very bitter from the reading I've done. Also read that it is a relatively difficult plant to get to stay alive. 2/3/2011 4:25:11 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "State Law 2009-0538 was signed into law by Governor Bev Perdue on August 28, 2009 and came into effect Dec 1st, 2009. The bill makes it unlawful to manufacture, sell, deliver, or possess Salvia divinorum. A violation of the law on the first or second offense is subject to a fine of not less than twenty-five dollars ($25.00). On a third or subsequent offense the person is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. There is an exception that the law does not apply to (1) employees or contractors of any accredited college or school of medicine or pharmacy at a public or private university in North Carolina while performing medical or pharmacological research for such institution or to (2) possession, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting of a plant strictly for aesthetic, landscaping, or decorative purposes." |
i guess you could just say its for aesthetics but you better not have old chewed on leaves just lying around
why not just grow some catnip, california poppy, and whatever else is in k2...at least you could make some money off that legally2/3/2011 4:25:43 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, I've read up on it a good deal. I was just looking for some personal experiences from ya'll.
[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .] 2/3/2011 4:26:42 PM |
toemoss All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
haha... I heard it was illegal now, but honestly a slap on the wrist would be a harsher punishment than that ^^
[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ^] 2/3/2011 4:27:30 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not less than twenty-five dollars ($25.00)" |
i guess it just has a reasonable limit, probably $500 or something2/3/2011 4:29:47 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Well I don't know about what's being sold in gas stations now, but before last year, you could easily buy "the real deal" in many headshops. Smoking the leaves is more popular because chewing them sucks and is inefficient. Smoking the extract is more popular because smoking cured leaves sucks.
The seed isn't very viable, so you need to find a cutting or rooted plant. I got one from the farmers market a few years ago, but I forgot which vendor had it. This is a big plant we are talking about, they frequently get more than a meter in height. they also get pretty floppy so plan on staking it if you want to see flowers. Grow it in a large container (2 gal+) outside, overwinter inside in a sunny spot. You may be able to overwinter it outside by planting in the ground and cutting the stems off about 6" high (below any surviving leaves) and mulch it heavily, but it's not as cold hardy as some of the other sages that are more popular as garden plants.
For a nice site with more detailed cultivation info and more, check out http://www.sagewisdom.org
[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM. Reason : it's [i]Salvia divinorum[i]] 2/3/2011 4:31:33 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^Can you get high just off the herbs in K2? I thought it had to have that synthetic stuff sprayed on it? I don't wanna smoke it anyways. Never been a big smoker so being able to chew natural salvia was attractive to me.
[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ^] 2/3/2011 4:32:11 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
chewing works, takes a while, but it works 2/3/2011 4:34:15 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
thnx for the info. I know that chewing doesnt get you as high, but I'm honestly not trying to get super fucked up and trippy. Chewing is supposed to provide a deeper and longer lasting experience. Guess I'll check the farmers market to see if anyones got the plant. 2/3/2011 4:35:34 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
well, you probably won't find one til the summer unless you do mail order
also, being "just a little high" doesn't make it deeper or more long lasting. I also scoff at using drugs to emulate a mystical experience 2/3/2011 4:42:47 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
the last time i chewed some i thought the walls were moving, it was actually kind of terrifying. i can't remember how many leaves i had, but it was a good sized wad and i had it in my lip for about 30 minutes before i really started to feel anything. i don't know that it lasted any longer, but it took longer to get there. 2/3/2011 4:50:44 PM |
BubbleBobble Veteran :3 114347 Posts user info edit post |
shoulda posted it at 4:20 2/3/2011 5:11:47 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i think those kind of visual distortions are pretty common with it, along with strange physical sensations and proprioception. Higher doses can give you closed or even open eye hallucinations, but it's hard to chew that much. 2/3/2011 5:12:44 PM |
Tarpon All American 1380 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I also scoff at using drugs to emulate a mystical experience" |
Just wondering, why are you against it? People have been using drugs like this for thousands of years to help them enter a spiritual state or become closer to god.
If you're saying that people shouldn't take hallucinogens as their only way to have mystical experiences well then I agree. But....what's the problem with chewing a little salvia to enhance meditation or prayer and help elevate to a different level?2/3/2011 7:43:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148429 Posts user info edit post |
move to the mountains in Mexico 2/3/2011 7:51:48 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "People have been using drugs like this for thousands of years to help them enter a spiritual state or become closer to god." |
Because it's disillusionment. Fucking up the chemical balance in your brain to change your perception of reality isn't spiritual or getting you closer to an imaginary friend...2/3/2011 7:56:54 PM |