dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If George Etzel Pearcy had his way, Lynyrd Skynyrd’s famous song would have been called “Sweet Home Talladego.” In 1973, the California State University geography professor suggested that the U.S. should redraw its antiquated state boundaries and narrow the overall number of states to a mere thirty-eight.
Pearcy’s proposed state lines were drawn in less-populated areas, isolating large cities and reducing their number within each state. He argued that if there were fewer cities vying for a state’s tax dollars, more money would be available for projects that would benefit all citizens.
Because the current states were being chopped up beyond recognition, part of his plan included renaming the new states by referencing natural geologic features or the region’s cultural history.
While he did have a rather staunch support network—economists, geographers, and even a few politicians argued that Pearcy’s plan might be crazy enough to work—the proposal was defeated in Washington, D.C. Imagine all the work that would have to be done to enact Pearcy’s plan: re-surveying the land, setting up new voter districts, new taxation infrastructure—basically starting the whole country over. It’s easy to see why the government balked.
The map above was published in 1973. Oddly, it doesn’t show any city locations to help illustrate Pearcy’s argument. At this point, I should tell you that I make maps for a living. So I did my best to replicate Pearcy’s map using population data from the 2000 census to show current high population cities and where they would fall within the new states." |
other guy's map
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d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. 2/28/2011 10:55:31 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89769 Posts user info edit post |
what a shitty map
who the fuck would go to Biscayne for a vacation? 2/28/2011 10:59:34 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
I don't wanna live in Albermarle.... 2/28/2011 11:01:00 PM |
BubbleBobble Veteran :3 114347 Posts user info edit post |
at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. at least throw a couple straight lines in there. jesus. 2/28/2011 11:01:19 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37664 Posts user info edit post |
he is supposed to split up cities, but of the 9 big ones, 3 are still in one state and 2 are in another. and biscayne would still have s a ton of very populous cities. 2/28/2011 11:02:40 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
there's no littlefoot for bighorn to play with 2/28/2011 11:02:52 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
he didnt provide a proposed abbreviation for each state though 2/28/2011 11:07:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Did he plan on changing the American Flag? 2/28/2011 11:08:25 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
They would have to change the song to "38 Nifty United States" and that wouldn't work. 2/28/2011 11:09:04 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Albemarle State Wolfpack... 2/28/2011 11:11:43 PM |
DJ Lauren All American 15721 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it would work because of how many states are land locked. Also, a lot of state's borders were decided so trains could go through them. This is pretty ridiculous, and i'm pretty sure the administrations decided very meticulously why our states have their borders.
I know that NC has that little change in latitude because of native american tribes...that was always interesting to me. However, a lot of states are based on that same latitude as NC's northern border.
That Stein guy wrote a really cool book about how the states got their shapes. 2/28/2011 11:15:41 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
That seems really unfair to Charlotte to make it a part of what is essentially South Carolina. No city deserves that fate if it has already experienced freedom. 2/28/2011 11:18:21 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he is supposed to split up cities, but of the 9 big ones, 3 are still in one state and 2 are in another. and biscayne would still have s a ton of very populous cities." |
He also made this map 38 years ago when city populations were much different than they are today.
Also, this ^
Plus I don't want to have to learn all the new states to hate.
[Edited on February 28, 2011 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ]2/28/2011 11:21:39 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Albemarle State Wolfpack..." |
LOL!
Then again, it would probably remain NC State. Wake Forest University left the town of Wake Forest and kept the name though.2/28/2011 11:22:54 PM |
BubbleBobble Veteran :3 114347 Posts user info edit post |
whoever came up with this bullshit needs to get dey head checked 2/28/2011 11:22:56 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
why the hell didnt he get rid of Michigans little tip that should belong to Minnesota 2/28/2011 11:24:10 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
cochise? 2/28/2011 11:27:59 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
pronounced COCK-EYES 2/28/2011 11:33:51 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
he should have chopped off a little piece of hawaii and given it to cali 2/28/2011 11:35:11 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, a lot of state's borders were decided so trains could go through them." |
the fuck are you talking about?2/28/2011 11:43:28 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
I seriously thought that said "Bonerville"
And kudos to Michigan for stubbornly holding on to the upper peninsula.
[Edited on February 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM. Reason : ] 2/28/2011 11:45:31 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
It would serve those mormons right if we changed it to Bonerville. 2/28/2011 11:50:18 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
3/1/2011 12:16:56 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
The state called "Erie" would throw a fit for not having access to one of the Great Lakes. There was a show on the History Channel IIRC that explained why the states were shaped the way they were, and a lot of it, at least for the earlier states, came down to access to waterways. Hence why Pennsylvania has that little area that connects to Lake Erie. 3/1/2011 12:53:27 AM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ cochise 3/1/2011 12:59:18 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
NATHAN WIND 3/1/2011 4:29:27 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck that. We are the real state of Carolina. South Carolina should be renamed Myrtle. 3/1/2011 6:41:26 AM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
vote bonner james iv for '74 governor3/1/2011 7:14:08 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like someone was trying as hard as they could to justify some research $texas received or trying too hard to secure some $texas for further research. They had to come up with something jarring, otherwise the people that funded the study wouldn't be impressed. I mean he didn't even respect the Mississippi river as a natural border.
Seriously, it looks like he went out of his way to make sure none of the new state lines matched up with an old state. They couldn't shift the state border of "Talladego" on all sides by about 30-40 miles because -gasp- that would be the same as the existing border... and we simply can't have that!
Meh, they couldn't even get the US on metric, I don't see how this had any hopes. Especially considering all things politics: Senate/Congress seats, people in power vying to get as much tax revenue as possible, etc.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 7:43 AM. Reason : -] 3/1/2011 7:38:49 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Heard they're instating this on Friday.
The line at the DMV is gonna be super serial. 3/1/2011 7:53:25 AM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They would have to change the song to "38 Nifty United States" and that wouldn't work." |
38 Pretty Great United States?3/1/2011 7:54:21 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of and I don't even know why history remembers that crap. 3/1/2011 9:26:30 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I like what he's trying to do. Re-drawing the entire country for efficiency's sake could save trillions. 3/1/2011 9:27:54 AM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Thiessen polygons ftw
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 9:41 AM. Reason : .] 3/1/2011 9:41:00 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Why would he split Alaska? The northern part doesn't even have a city big enough to list.
And I've never seen it called "Boise city" 3/1/2011 9:41:45 AM |
CassTheSass cupid 35382 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Heard they're instating this on Friday.
The line at the DMV is gonna be super serial." |
lolz3/1/2011 10:25:26 AM |
marlndarln All American 1859 Posts user info edit post |
i like that many of the names are connected to riverine or geologic names of the area. i may actually be able to remember where some shit is now 3/1/2011 10:29:20 AM |
classy_J Veteran 233 Posts user info edit post |
We can just give Alaska to Canada...solve the whole Palin for president thing real quick like. Amirite?
Also, San Luis has a boner. 3/1/2011 10:29:25 AM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^Polygons
3/1/2011 10:48:43 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
3/1/2011 10:50:06 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That seems really unfair to Charlotte to make it a part of what is essentially South Carolina. No city deserves that fate if it has already experienced freedom." |
haha I was thinking that too.3/1/2011 11:05:23 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
I am okay with this idea. Would be a fun change 3/1/2011 11:09:14 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
AL - Alamo AM - Albemarle AG - Allegheny AP - Appalachia BY - Bayou BH - Bighorn BS - Biscayne BR - Bitterroot BV - Bonneville CR - Carolina CA - Cascade CH - Chesapeake CO - Cochise CU - Cumberland DK - Dakota DB - Dearborn ED - El Dorado ER - Erie HD - Hudson KN - Kennebec KI - Kilauea KD - Kodiak MA - Mackinac MO - Mohawk OS - Osage OZ - Ozark PM - Piedmont PT - Platte PY - Plymouth PR - Prairie SG - San Gabriel SL - San Luis SW - Seward SH - Shawnee SU - Superior SQ - Susquehanna TA - Talladego WA - Wabash 3/1/2011 11:19:48 AM |
classy_J Veteran 233 Posts user info edit post |
some of these are descriptions...some of them just illustrate what the abbreviation means. you figure it out...and the ones i left blank AL - big gay guy from south park AM - any time after midnight but before noon AG - what wal mart nation knows our school as, and frankly it's cool because we're good at it. suck it chapel hill. AP - almost the full spelling of games on the iphone BY - something you don't end a sentence with. wait a minute... BH - bull hockey BS - poop from a bull BR - break room (lame yes...but i'm at work and about to go eat lunch in one, so it's on my mind) BV - CR - CA - already used for california...too many people that live there are currently high. this would confuse them. try again. CH - the worst school ever CO - already used for colorado...too many people that live there are currently high. this would confuse them. try again. CU - L8R DK - super awesome fun times nintendo game DB - ED - disease for which we have viagra ER - emergency room...not fun to be in. HD - hillary duff? KN - ights of the round table KI - abbreviation for the fight for your right intro KD - MA - already used for massachusetts...too many people that live there are currently arrogant. this would infuriate them. try again. MO - larry and curly OS - operating system OZ - where the wizzard lives PM - any time after noon but before midnight. PT - physical training PY - is delicious...but you spelled it wrong PR - personal record SG - a sweet guitar SL - SW - this is already a direction. too many people that are alive are currently high. this would confuse them. try again SH - SU - short for 'sup' SQ - TA - this guy fumbles too much and doesn't deserve to have a state abbreviated after him. WA - add more a's and it's a meme... 3/1/2011 12:22:02 PM |
bobster All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand why they still gave the upper peninsula to the Mackinac/Michigan instead of Superior/Wisconsin. 3/1/2011 12:22:10 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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I was trying so hard not to laugh out loud in the middle of my office that I share while reading this thread.
then I came to:
Quote : | "Also, San Luis has a boner." |
and scrolled up and sure enough, it does.
I laughed!
I got busted! 3/1/2011 4:43:30 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
LOL I agree that he totally disregarded natural borders like the frikking Mississippi River and Rocky Mountains. A lot of our state lines don't make any sense, but it's not like his make any more sense. Seems ridiculous that he ever thought this would be adopted, people have waaaaay too much of an emotional connection to their state. Can you imagine Texas signing on to this? 3/1/2011 5:19:49 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
NERDCHICK WHY ARE YOU TROLLING THIS SERIOUS MAPMAKER
TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL 3/1/2011 5:25:06 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
set em up 3/1/2011 5:30:40 PM |