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EMCE
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Barack "panda bear" Obama quietly giggles from the back.

3/20/2011 10:57:36 AM

kiljadn
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some bullshit


we didn't even want a part of this shit and the pussy ass french, english, and italians volunteered us for it


shit makes me so angry

3/20/2011 10:59:12 AM

ThePeter
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Its a dark day when these guys have to take military charge in the world when America won't step up

3/20/2011 10:59:46 AM

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Pretty much how we ended up in Vietnam. Fuck the French.

3/20/2011 11:00:35 AM

EMCE
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I'm inclined to agree. I think thats why we were so hesitant to do anything.

3/20/2011 11:01:28 AM

qntmfred
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let Europe handle it. it's their backyard, not ours

aren't we supposed to be broke anyways? let the military absorb some budget cuts for once

[Edited on March 20, 2011 at 11:05 AM. Reason : USA#1]

3/20/2011 11:05:19 AM

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I am anti military cuts... a lot of jobs come from that. Just bring them home and have them start doing shit here

3/20/2011 11:08:11 AM

ThePeter
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yeah, like mine

3/20/2011 11:10:31 AM

d7freestyler
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why we gotta go bully my father's birth country!

3/20/2011 11:10:53 AM

EMCE
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We are never going to shake this image as world police

3/20/2011 11:11:25 AM

Joie
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^^that makes you african american

3/20/2011 11:15:20 AM

kiljadn
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that explains a lot

[Edited on March 20, 2011 at 11:16 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2011 11:16:20 AM

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Quote :
"WITH GREAT POWER THERE MUST ALSO COME - - GREAT RESPONSIBILITY! "

3/20/2011 11:17:06 AM

Mr. Joshua
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People don't realize that Top Gun was based on the Gulf of Sidra incident.

3/20/2011 11:17:57 AM

ThePeter
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I think its a personal matter for our Marines that we have to at least make some effort. Tripoli (in Libya) is in the Marine Corps Hymn after all

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" From the Halls of Montezuma,
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean:
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine. "


I am highly opposed to putting troops in there, we are spread thin as it is, but sending a few missiles at a psychotic tyrant's forces is OK with me.

[Edited on March 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ibt"Our country's battles" its not our country herp derp]

3/20/2011 11:20:26 AM

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this is one job Reagan should have finished

3/20/2011 11:21:27 AM

EMCE
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Decent article in the washington post this morning...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-actions-may-speak-louder-than-words/2011/03/19/ABVWsZx_story.html

3/20/2011 11:31:46 AM

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What impact will this have on gas prices? $4 in 2 weeks?

1 tomahawk missile = $760,000

120 = $91,200,000

And America gets what out of bombing this country?

[Edited on March 20, 2011 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2011 11:35:30 AM

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"I am anti military cuts... a lot of jobs come from that."


I don't care if a lot of jobs come from the military. We don't have the money and it's unnecessary to have 25% of our budget devoted to the military. It's just stupid.

3/20/2011 11:48:31 AM

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Why is everyone complaining? Peace on Earth is only possible if everyone is a participant.

3/20/2011 12:16:02 PM

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"1 tomahawk missile = $760,000

120 = $91,200,000"


Shit's long been paid for, and those things do have a shelf life, this way all that money hasn't gone to waste

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"And America gets what out of bombing this country?"


Training, Oil, sightly more influence in the region with the relationship with Egypt strained and tenuous, and setting the precedent that we aren't all talk with respect to genocidal maniacs that have harassed US forces for decades.

3/20/2011 4:08:25 PM

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"I don't care if a lot of jobs come from the military."


not that I am really into this sort of debate...

but how do you feel about the current unemployment rates?

3/20/2011 4:15:39 PM

roddy
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Combat folks have a much harder job finding regular jobs once they come back (except DOD jobs).

3/20/2011 4:15:57 PM

datman
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it was unanimous among all the security council that this action be taken. the US is one part to all of this and France actually went in first.

even the arab nations requested help be sent

[Edited on March 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2011 4:55:36 PM

BigMan157
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We haven't pew-pewed anyone in a while, so let's do it

3/20/2011 5:00:53 PM

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It was unanimous in the sense that there were no opposing votes, but not in the sense that all members of the Security Council approved it. The vote was 10-0, and among the abstentions were both Russia and China, who have veto power.

3/20/2011 5:10:38 PM

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yea both of them wondered if this was what should be done. but they didnt want to stand in the way. but they voted for it. otherwise they would have gotten flack about it.

3/20/2011 5:16:22 PM

EMCE
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ttt

3/20/2011 10:13:06 PM

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3/20/2011 10:13:42 PM

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I think it's pretty badass that we launched B2 Stealth Bombers from Missouri to fly all the way to libya and bomb shit. 25 hour round flight and their back home....

3/20/2011 11:24:50 PM

EMCE
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Compound in Tripoli lays in ruins

Giant fisting statute, mockingly, still in erect

3/21/2011 7:04:45 AM

ThePeter
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Speaking of Russia...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/putin-likens-u-n-libya-resolution-crusade-calls-20110321-052402-752.html

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"VOTKINSK, Russia (Reuters) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin Monday likened the U.N. Security Council resolution supporting military action in Libya to medieval calls for crusades.

Putin, in the first major remarks from a Russian leader since a coalition of Western countries began air strikes in Libya, said that Muammar Gaddafi's government fell short of democracy but added that did not justify military intervention.

"The resolution is defective and flawed," Putin told workers at a Russian ballistic missile factory. "It allows everything. It resembles medieval calls for crusades."

Putin said that interference in other countries' internal affairs has become a trend in U.S. foreign policy and that the events in Libya indicated that Russia should strengthen its own defense capabilities.

Russia, a veto-wielding permanent Security Council member, abstained from the vote Thursday in which the council authorized a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians against Gaddafi's forces."


Funny how Russia is all talk...in Russia, but they abstained from the vote when they really could have said something of consequence.

And of course China abstained, they didn't want to look hypocritical by stopping one government from slaughtering its people when China's own human rights are despicable.

[Edited on March 21, 2011 at 8:42 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/21/2011 8:41:14 AM

EMCE
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I saw that shit coming a mile away


"america is the worlds police....so we need to strengthen our own defences to gaurd against this tyrant"

3/21/2011 8:46:23 AM

EMCE
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U.S. F-15 jet crashes in libya

Gadhafi calls, U.N. a bunch of cockblocks

3/22/2011 7:17:25 AM

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3/22/2011 12:54:50 PM

qntmfred
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ragecomics are starting to piss me off

3/22/2011 1:01:05 PM

ThePeter
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Would you say they make you.....rage?

3/22/2011 1:19:27 PM

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"I am highly opposed to putting troops in there, we are spread thin as it is, but sending a few missiles at a psychotic tyrant's forces is OK with me.
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Pretty much.

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"What impact will this have on gas prices? $4 in 2 weeks?

1 tomahawk missile = $760,000

120 = $91,200,000

And America gets what out of bombing this country?"


Well, I think you answered your own question. Bombing the country will help the opposition win, and if that happens there's a chance that stability will return to the country -- and with it, our oil prices.

Assuming that stability does follow Kadhaffi's ouster and the oil starts flowing without fear of civil war, I expect the overall economic benefit to us will exceed $91 million dollars, which is a measly sum in terms of both military expenditure and our oil consumption. Plus, we get to stop a horrible murderer.

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"I don't care if a lot of jobs come from the military. We don't have the money and it's unnecessary to have 25% of our budget devoted to the military. It's just stupid."


If those military jobs go away, unemployment goes up. Those newly jobless people won't be paying much in taxes, and they may go on government benefits that cost money. Hard to say which value is higher. At least with military spending we get cool guns, with medicare and social security we just get whiny old people.

3/22/2011 1:26:58 PM

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^ and I thought this was about helping the Africans

$91,200,000 + F15 =? I'm 2 lazy to google it

3/22/2011 7:26:01 PM

jataylor
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i would guess about 50 mil

3/22/2011 7:34:35 PM

EMCE
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Gadhafi remains defiant

America launches campaign to make fun of him

3/23/2011 9:02:19 AM

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We've lost like 3 F15-E's in their ~30 year existence. All (to my knowledge) were due to mechanical failure. You drive your car for 30 years and make sure to hit it's top speed once/week and see if something doesn't fall off when you're cruising across the desert.

Actually, it was probably the first time it had been authorized for military thrust in 5 years. That might have contributed.

[Edited on March 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM. Reason : .]

3/23/2011 9:44:36 AM

slackerb
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God damn it there goes my $.34 worth of fighter jet down the drain.

3/23/2011 9:56:01 AM

jbtilley
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^^And the planes probably average many hours of maintenance for every hour of flight. Pretty sure my car could handle it if I had a team of mechanics on that thing after every commute...

but that's why the fail rate is small. So yeah.

[Edited on March 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM. Reason : -]

3/23/2011 10:07:44 AM

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