6/2/2011 1:24:25 PM

Yeah, up until the very end I had no idea if this was like, a video game or an animated flick

6/2/2011 1:26:19 PM

Right now, just a vg but hopefully the right kick to reboot the franchise.

6/2/2011 1:27:40 PM

fucking r to the a to the d

excited about the game

hate to be difficult but a videogame isn't going to reboot any fucking franchise, man

...

maybe in the video game market... not the movies though...

[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2011 1:28:57 PM

actually AvP started out as a comic, vg, then movie...

if that piece of shit can make it to the big screen AND GET A SEQUEL, so can this



[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2011 1:36:02 PM

Dang I hadn't heard anything about this game in 3 years.

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"hate to be difficult but a videogame isn't going to reboot any fucking franchise, man"

It did Transformers.

But not the movie version, just the animated version.

[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ]

6/2/2011 1:38:37 PM

well I think the cartoon had more to do with that but some of the VGs helped



Mortal Kombat is also hoping to do this as well

[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM. Reason : if it ever gets out the shoes of a web series]

6/2/2011 1:39:04 PM

This is the same trailer but has a few gameplay clips at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoWvljOEcwE

6/2/2011 2:09:05 PM

Also go to http://66.194.172.6/

Enter - FATHER

and get the trailer


[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM. Reason : I wonder if there are more logins]

6/2/2011 2:17:23 PM

AvP wasn't a bad game, but a dedicated colonial marine game sounds infinitely better.

6/2/2011 2:24:01 PM

no i think the game was fine


the movie is what sucked

6/2/2011 2:32:01 PM

Yes, sucked hard.

6/2/2011 2:36:33 PM

The original AvP was awesome. The latest was not bad. I thought this game was vaporware.

6/2/2011 3:03:51 PM

If you are talking about the original game, yes.

If you are talking about the PG-13 movie with the Predator/Human love moment, fuck that.

[Edited on June 2, 2011 at 4:04 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2011 4:03:24 PM

I was referring to the original game and the game that was released like 2 years ago.

6/2/2011 4:04:50 PM

Ah ok.

Yeah both were good. The new one had some quirks to it but I liked it overall.

6/2/2011 4:15:13 PM

Pleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuck...

(I wonder if there's any chance that Gearbox may disregard the events of Alien3?)

6/2/2011 5:04:36 PM

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"The story of Aliens: Colonial Marines is being written by Battlestar Galactica writers Bradley Thompson and David Weddle.[10] The events of the game are set after those of the film Alien 3.[11][dead link] A Colonial Marine search and rescue team has been sent to investigate the U.S.S. Sulaco in search of Ellen Ripley, Corporal Dwayne Hicks, and the rest of the missing marines who were dispatched to LV-426. The Sulaco, LV-426, and the derelict alien spacecraft from Alien all serve as environments in the game, as well as other locations yet to be detailed.[11][12]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens:_Colonial_Marines


Oh man this has some serious potential.

6/2/2011 5:09:29 PM

I thought this was gonna be about marines in colonial times going against aliens. I realize marines didn't exist then, but Cowboys vs Aliens has me aroused for any type of historical interspecies warfare.

6/2/2011 5:15:06 PM

^^ Huh. OK, that's a little strange to me. A few potential plot holes may present themselves if this is taking place after Alien3.

6/2/2011 5:23:05 PM

Like what?

6/2/2011 5:36:32 PM

Are you referring to material from the books?

6/2/2011 6:02:50 PM

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"I realize marines didn't exist then, but Cowboys vs Aliens has me aroused for any type of historical interspecies warfare."

Oh no... as any good leatherneck will tell you, the United States Marine Corps is older than the Republic itself. Maybe they'll pop up as a surprise ending.

6/2/2011 8:03:53 PM

the new game was a complete piece of shit

6/2/2011 8:43:15 PM

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"I thought this was gonna be about marines in colonial times going against aliens. I realize marines didn't exist then, but Cowboys vs Aliens has me aroused for any type of historical interspecies warfare."

Birthdate of Marine Corps- Nov 10 1775
Birthdate of United States- July 4 1776

6/2/2011 8:58:52 PM

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"Like what?"

Well, I feel fairly sure that the writers have already thought of anything which I have. Just a couple of things rattling around which might be problematic:

- How far away from the colony exactly was the alien ship where the Space Jockey was found? (I don't remember the exact dialogue, but I thought they did say it.)
- How far away from the colony was the atmosphere processor? If, as Bishop said, "this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska," then I wouldn't think that there'd be much left to investigate.
- Surely the Sulaco would have a record of where it jettisoned its cryotube lifeboats. You'd think that if the USCM needs an account of what happened, they'd try to find Ripley first...
- Most importantly (to me anyway), is how exactly many aliens were left after the end of the movie. I've never been able to get a decent body count. Can't be that many, especially if they were mostly in the atmosphere processor.

I'm fully willing to suspend disbelief in favor of great gameplay (please), but I do hope that they've considered some of these things. A lot of things could just be chalked up to "company interference" or conspiracy. I never read the books, but I did read the Dark Horse comics back in the day. They completely deviated from Alien3, and turned out to be a much more interesting story (well, at least the first two series of books focused around Hicks and Newt).

[Edited on June 3, 2011 at 8:26 AM. Reason : typo]

6/3/2011 8:24:14 AM

guys............ it's a wiki reference...............it's not fact

6/3/2011 9:59:28 AM

Colonial America was mainly the 15 and 1600 hundreds

6/3/2011 10:06:45 AM

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"Well, I feel fairly sure that the writers have already thought of anything which I have. Just a couple of things rattling around which might be problematic: - How far away from the colony exactly was the alien ship where the Space Jockey was found? (I don't remember the exact dialogue, but I thought they did say it.) - How far away from the colony was the atmosphere processor? If, as Bishop said, "this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska," then I wouldn't think that there'd be much left to investigate. - Surely the Sulaco would have a record of where it jettisoned its cryotube lifeboats. You'd think that if the USCM needs an account of what happened, they'd try to find Ripley first... - Most importantly (to me anyway), is how exactly many aliens were left after the end of the movie. I've never been able to get a decent body count. Can't be that many, especially if they were mostly in the atmosphere processor."

- How far away from the colony exactly was the alien ship where the Space Jockey was found? (I don't remember the exact dialogue, but I thought they did say it.)

They don't specify but it's within range of Hadley's Hope because a survey team (Newt's family) finds it

http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/Aliens.txt

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" LYDECKER You remember you sent some wildcatters out to that plateau, out past the Ilium range, a couple days ago? SIMPSON Yeah. What? LYDECKER There's a guy on the horn, mom-and-pop survey team. Says he's homing on something and wants to know if his claim will be honored. SIMPSON Christ. Some honch in a cushy office on Earth says go look at a grid reference in the middle of nowhere, we look. They don't say why, and I don't ask. I don't ask because it takes two weeks to get an answer out here and the answer's always 'don't ask.' LYDECKER So what do I tell this guy? SIMPSON Tell him, as far as I'm concerned, he finds something it's his."

- How far away from the colony was the atmosphere processor? If, as Bishop said, "this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska," then I wouldn't think that there'd be much left to investigate.

The atmo processor was apart of the colony compound. That's the purpose of the colony - to build these units to make the air breathable on the planet). They are able to watch the emergency vents from the command station they set up.

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"INT. OPERATIONS - MINUTES LATER 129 Everyone, including Bishop, is crowded at the window, intently watching the AP station which is a dim silhouette in the mist. Suddenly a column of flame, like an acetylene torch, jets upward from the complex at the base of the cone. BISHOP That's it. See it? Emergency venting. RIPLEY How long until it blows? BISHOP I'm projecting total systems failure in a little under four hours. The blast radius will be about thirty kilometers. About equal to ten megatons."

- Surely the Sulaco would have a record of where it jettisoned its cryotube lifeboats. You'd think that if the USCM needs an account of what happened, they'd try to find Ripley first...

This is where the wikipedia reference doesn't make sense. In my previous post, that reference said:

"The events of the game are set after those of the film Alien 3. A Colonial Marine search and rescue team has been sent to investigate the U.S.S. Sulaco in search of Ellen Ripley, Corporal Dwayne Hicks, and the rest of the missing marines who were dispatched to LV-426."

If that is the case, the team of scientists and the synthetic from Alien 3 should have reported that Ripley died on the penal colony. They should have been able to find the crashed ship (which they tracked to get there in the first place) and checked the logs from that. Checking the logs would reveal that Hicks did not make it either so a S&R mission to find them makes no sense. That's why I'm not putting too much faith in that wiki reference. My guess is, this is taking place in between Alien 2 & 3.

- Most importantly (to me anyway), is how exactly many aliens were left after the end of the movie. I've never been able to get a decent body count. Can't be that many, especially if they were mostly in the atmosphere processor.

Since the Space Jockey's ship was an unknown distance from the colony, it is plausible that it was outside the blast radius. If you go back and watch Alien, you can see that the ship is filled with tens of thousands of eggs.










[Edited on June 3, 2011 at 11:08 AM. Reason : .]

6/3/2011 10:56:50 AM

Eggs, yes. There's clear possibility for more aliens to be created from the eggs. However, they would need hosts. If there were, say, 150 colonists, then how many of them did the USCM kill? This is where I've never seen or read any kind of estimated body count. I can't imagine that many full-grown aliens would be left after the processor blew up. Maybe the writers have already realized this and will start the game by exploring the space jockey's ship, having some of the marines becoming hosts, and then things get rolling from there.

6/3/2011 11:59:05 AM

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"Yeah, up until the very end I had no idea if this was like, a video game or an animated flick"

did you not notice the huge "Sega" logo at the beginning?

6/3/2011 12:01:10 PM

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"Maybe the writers have already realized this and will start the game by exploring the space jockey's ship, having some of the marines becoming hosts, and then things get rolling from there."

This makes the most sense.

6/3/2011 12:07:24 PM

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"If that is the case, the team of scientists and the synthetic from Alien 3 should have reported that Ripley died on the penal colony. They should have been able to find the crashed ship (which they tracked to get there in the first place) and checked the logs from that. Checking the logs would reveal that Hicks did not make it either so a S&R mission to find them makes no sense."

The scientists and rescue mission to the prison colony did not track the ship, the prison staff alerted them about Ripley.

Im such an Aliens nerd

6/3/2011 1:02:53 PM

Either way, Weyland-Yutani corp should still know where Ripley is since the prison notified them

[Edited on June 3, 2011 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2011 1:28:53 PM

True, but USCM may not since it's plausible that WYC may have kept that info from them. What'll be most interesting to me is to see where/how/when they find the Sulaco and whether or not there are any eggs on board (which was to me always one of the most ridiculous plot points of the whole franchise).

6/4/2011 4:34:58 PM

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"True, but USCM may not since it's plausible that WYC may have kept that info from them."

Bingo. The crew complement of the Sulaco at the end of Aliens was Hicks, Ripley, Newt, and Bishop. If Colonial Marines happens "shortly after the events of Alien 3" then given the amount of time it takes to get from system to system the USMC ship in this game would have left long before the prison colony gave word to the company about them crashing there and most likely would not have yet heard of what actually happened on Fury 161. They may not yet have had word of what happened on LV-426. It takes 17 days for the rescue mission to get there right? I forget, do we know how long the cryosleep between Aliens and Alien 3 was? Do we ever get the date in Alien 3?

Were there eggs on board? I just remember face-huggers, and not necessarily the eggs.

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"stuff about there not being any available hosts"

We do know that they can parasitize non-humans, and if there's one non-human species in the Universe there could easily be others. Also, maybe there were eggs on the top level, but levels and levels of fully grown aliens below that the original colonists (and the crew of the Nostromo) never unearthed.

[Edited on June 4, 2011 at 11:41 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2011 11:39:03 PM

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"I forget, do we know how long the cryosleep between Aliens and Alien 3 was? Do we ever get the date in Alien 3?"

Not sure, but you'd have to figure at least a week or so. I mean, it's long enough for the Sulaco to have entered another whole planetary system.

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"Were there eggs on board? I just remember face-huggers, and not necessarily the eggs."

Not entirely clear, but - and I detest having to try to justify this since I hate this one thing about Alien3 so much - it makes more sense for the queen to have laid at least 1 egg somewhere in the cargo bay. Where else would a facehugger have come from?

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"We do know that they can parasitize non-humans, and if there's one non-human species in the Universe there could easily be others."

True, but let's not forget: "It's a rock. No indigenous life." If anything else was there, it'd have to have been on the space jockey's ship. And anyway, WYC certainly seemed to claim that there was nothing else on the planet but they sure didn't know about the space jockey's ship. This could be yet another company cover-up.

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"Also, maybe there were eggs on the top level, but levels and levels of fully grown aliens below that the original colonists (and the crew of the Nostromo) never unearthed."

Pretty sure the hive was in the very lowest level of the atmosphere processing station in Aliens. (I'm just gonna go ahead and say that if the writers even attempt to convince me that anything survived the blast at the end of the movie, then I'm going to be pissed.) Not so sure about the space jockey's ship, though.

6/5/2011 1:06:33 AM

Remind me again of the events after they fly from the planet, to the ship, and kill the alien queen who tried to tag along.

6/5/2011 9:20:07 AM

I was referring to the possibility of a hive undiscovered in or under the space jockey's ship, not on the colony (which is surely a crater).

6/5/2011 10:20:45 AM

^ Makes sense. I mean, the space jockey obviously died from an infestation.

^^ Ripley rescues Newt from the hive, pisses off the alien queen which follows them back to the dropship, and it somehow manages to stow aboard (in the rear landing gear bay). Once back on the Sulaco, the queen emerges from the dropship and bisects Bishop. Ripley uses a power loader to wrestle the queen into the airlock and blow it out into space. Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and what's left of Bishop climb back into hypersleep tubes for the trip home. All seems well until the start of Alien3 in which we learn that somehow the queen managed to get a facehugger (which we can only guess came from an egg) onto the Sulaco and it infects Ripley. Because it burned through the cryotube, the Sulaco's fire detection system goes off and it immediately jettisons the whole bay into space. The lifeboat crashes on Fiorina 161, where yet ANOTHER mysterious facehugger infects a dog.

Whomever wrote Alien3 should be slapped. It was a semi-decent premise, but the circumstances were really poorly explained right from the very start of the movie.

By the by, did anyone else read the original Dark Horse comics back in the late 80's before Alien3 came out? Or even the first Aliens vs. Predator series? Those were SO much better than anything the films after Aliens have done.

6/5/2011 6:46:28 PM

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"Colonial America was mainly the 15 and 1600 hundreds"

Ill give you that, but if you are making a reference to the colonial period then you could include the royal marines, which began transiting on royal navy vessels in the 1600s. And since when you hear the word colonial, you are in most cases going to think the original 13 which were under british control thus royal marines...

at this point its just semantic and i was bored.

6/5/2011 8:05:07 PM

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"All seems well until the start of Alien3 in which we learn that somehow the queen managed to get a facehugger (which we can only guess came from an egg) onto the Sulaco and it infects Ripley."

They show a hatched egg during the opening montage.

6/5/2011 9:04:45 PM

^ Huh. I had forgotten that completely. I think I've only seen Alien3 maybe twice, whereas I've lost count of how many times I've seen Alien and Aliens.

6/5/2011 10:31:20 PM

I too had forgotten this and now it makes even less sense. At the end of Aliens, Ripley finds the Queen at the bottom of the atmo processor. She obliterates a number of eggs which causes the Queen to detach herself from the egg sack that is laying the eggs. Since she now has no way of laying eggs without this, how in the fuck did an egg get on the Sulaco?

6/6/2011 11:33:51 AM

Maybe the egg sac was for mass production once a colony was set up and the queen could still have individual eggs without having to set up a nest. It makes sense in the early stages of a colony.

6/6/2011 11:56:23 AM

Stop it. You know damn well that doesn't make sense.

[Edited on June 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM. Reason : don't make excuses for a poorly written sequel]

6/6/2011 5:29:00 PM

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6318736/

Some new information. Not sure what to think about the role of the Power Loader.

6/10/2011 2:53:55 PM

^ Dude talked about how great Aliens was and then called it a xenophobe.

6/10/2011 4:08:10 PM

aliens games are always hit or miss so i will hold my excitement for future updates

6/10/2011 4:37:07 PM

I hate how he kept calling it the "Sulacu." He did mention what might be an interesting plot point, though, about how the USCM finds the Sulaco back in orbit around LV-426 and don't know how it got there. Not much of a stretch to believe that the WYC did it, but it could be interesting to see how it plays out.

6/10/2011 4:41:53 PM