NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Talking everyday businesswear here. I think of cuffed pants as all but standard. But a FB post and responses seem to be railing against cuffed suit pants.
Shed some light tww. 6/22/2011 2:14:27 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I say cuffed is the way to go 6/22/2011 2:16:35 PM |
egyeyes All American 6209 Posts user info edit post |
+1 for cuffed 6/22/2011 2:17:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148422 Posts user info edit post |
last few suits i bought i had them cuff the pants after hemming 6/22/2011 2:17:10 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
I think they are cuffed if they are pleated and not cuffed if there are no pleats. Could be the other way around though 6/22/2011 2:17:14 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I say cuffed is not the way to go 6/22/2011 2:17:15 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
the heavier cuff keeps the trouser lines in tact and looks better, but a full break with no cuff on business suits is perfectly fine. they can even hem a little more material into the pant with no cuff to have a heavier fall.
i do cuffs on tan and no cuffs on everything else 6/22/2011 2:17:25 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Cuffed 6/22/2011 2:17:50 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Cuffs on everything buy my summer suits that I wear with no socks
No cuffs on dark suits makes you look like a farmer 6/22/2011 2:20:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldnt cuff flat front pants but I don't own any.
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ^ that l] 6/22/2011 2:20:36 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
tuxes have no cuffs, do they look like farmers? 6/22/2011 2:20:45 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
^^ any tailor will agree not to cuff flat front pants. 6/22/2011 2:21:15 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Tuxes are a different animal
As the OP stated, "Talking everyday businesswear here." 6/22/2011 2:22:00 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
going without a cuff is how to wear a modern suit, cuffs are more traditional and would look out of place on a modern suit 6/22/2011 2:25:18 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the heavier cuff keeps the trouser lines in tact and looks better" |
this. wear what you prefer. i can see the appeal of no cuffs, but i like the weight they provide as the quoted poster stated. however for lighter, summer type suits, i go no cuff because i dont wear socks if i can help it in the summer. (as SF also noted)6/22/2011 2:26:32 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
^^Agree to disagree
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 2:26 PM. Reason : x] 6/22/2011 2:26:42 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Think about it like this:
Pleats are a definite no no.
You only cuff pants with pleats...
ergo, pants should not have cuffs.
Typing looks better done incrementally 6/22/2011 2:30:11 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
No pleats and no cuffs for me. 6/22/2011 2:31:41 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
i get that you all have been raised by your fathers to put cuffs in all of your suits, but that is not the direction fashion trends have gone. modern suits are usually worn with no cuffs and usually come with flat front trousers and a slimmer, European cut. 6/22/2011 2:32:10 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I wear a suit everyday. You wear a golf shirt and khakis. I'd like to think being immersed in a culture where I see dozens of people in different suits each day would give me some perspective about whats fashionable or not. I'm not saying I'm Barney Stinson, but I play one on TWW. 6/22/2011 2:33:53 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not actually sure how some of my suits are done. I know at least one of them has cuffs, but can't recall on the newer suits... 6/22/2011 2:37:24 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
but i also grew up in a family with money, wearing suits often, and half of my wardrobe is from varsity or brooks brothers.
open a GQ and look around a bit
(maybe for my next topic i can teach you all about fused versus canvased jackets)
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2011 2:38:10 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
Well I'll back up a second and say that I do have a couple suits with cuffed pants; I'm still not necessarily a big fan and don't wear them as much compared to my non-cuffed but they are nice suits and the cuffs don't look terrible. However, when I think of everyday business attire I was thinking of dress pants and a nice fitted dress shirt sans a jacket in which case I absolutely never wear pants with pleats or cuffs.
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2011 2:39:02 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the heavier cuff keeps the trouser lines in tact and looks better" |
Huh... I never paid attention to this. My nice interview suit has the cuff and keeps the line really well, while the other pants lose the line quickly
The more you know6/22/2011 2:39:15 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
^How often do you wear them compared to your normal ones though? 6/22/2011 2:40:22 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Congratulations on your domestic wardrobe. I don't even try on anything that's not bespoke. 6/22/2011 2:40:27 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
Well I meant lose the line as in even throughout the day. With my other pants, the line starts fading by the end of the day whereas my nice pants stay the way they should and have a crisp line still after moving around all day 6/22/2011 2:42:52 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
the more involved answer also involves body type, which we are ignoring 6/22/2011 2:43:26 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I should take into account the cut as well - some of them are typical female trouser cut and the nice ones are wide leg (and better material) 6/22/2011 2:45:35 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
for men, you also want a slight slant in your hem on cuff-less pants so that they have the appropriate amount of break but retain their lines. I usually enjoy a full break as I am pretty tall and the rule of thumb is that you never want your socks to show while walking. For someone tall like me with a large stride, a full break helps accomplish this. 6/22/2011 2:47:13 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
if you want to look modern and "in" style you dont want a cuff on anything
if you dont care and are a regular joe then just dont put cuffs on nonpleated slacks and you will avoid the faux pas 6/22/2011 3:59:35 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
for your next educational topic about suits: Fused vs. Canvassed
When you buy a suit you always want to do a pinch test on the coat. Nice suits will have a canvassed jacket (usually just half or 3/4 canvassed). What this means is that the jacket will move with your body much better and will not look so bulky and stiff. Canvassed suits are more expensive than fused jackets, canvassed comes from the process of making them where the suit is built onto a canvas form. You should be able to feel the loose canvas layer inside when pinching a canvassed suit. Fused jackets use stiffer fabrics and glue instead.
For more reading: http://community.artofmanliness.com/profiles/blogs/art-of-maniless-suit-school
Quote : | "How to Tell a Canvassed v. Fused Jacket.
In a canvassed jacket, most of the stitching attaching the canvas and wool is behind the lapels. If you look carefully on the reverse side of a jacket's lapel, you can see the tiny stitches holding the layers of fabric together. A fused jacket will have no such stitching.
It used to be the case that pick stitching, the stitching around the edges of a jacket's lapels, was indicative of a canvassed jacket. This is no longer the case, however, as many fashion houses now add pick stitching merely for the look.
The single best way to determine whether a jacket is canvassed or fused, however, is the pinch test. Because most of the stitching holding the canvas to the wool is on the lapels, the canvas "floats" under the wool fabric, allowing the wool to drape naturally. What you can do is first pinch the fabric on the sleeve of the jacket to get a feel for the wool's thickness (sleeves are not canvassed). Then, pinch the fabric on the chest of the jacket.
Does it feel the same thickness as the sleeve fabric? If so, it's canvassed.
But if the chest fabric feels stiffer and thicker, the jacket is more than likely fused." |
6/22/2011 4:15:07 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
A more tailored/slim-fit suit does not need a cuff....KEEP IT AWAY
traditional suiting has cuffs
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM. Reason : I love menswear more than girls clothes and could talk about it all day] 6/22/2011 4:16:38 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
wear what you like and fuck the haters. 6/22/2011 4:19:55 PM |
FuhCtious All American 11955 Posts user info edit post |
Style is completely individual. Rules are not absolute, and should only be used as general guidelines in most cases. For something as personal as the tailoring of a suit, it should be entirely based upon personal preference. If worn well, there is no wrong answer to this question. There may be a more popular answer, but there is no wrong answer. It's the same as single vs. double breasted, while the generally accepted guidelines lean one way, it's perfectly acceptable to do things differently. 6/22/2011 4:46:39 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
You're the kid sitting in the middle of the seesaw wondering why you aren't moving 6/22/2011 4:47:33 PM |
blanks Veteran 546 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A more tailored/slim-fit suit does not need a cuff....KEEP IT AWAY
traditional suiting has cuffs" |
this.
but also the height/weight/build of the person is very important. if you're short cuffed pants will make you look shorter, as will a larger break.
[Edited on June 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM. Reason : .]6/22/2011 4:49:11 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
i like no pleat/no cuffs on my pants
i hate how pleats bunch up
and cuffs are like ankle crumb catchers. i don't want my lunch in there. 6/22/2011 4:57:45 PM |