KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
He was already on some lists as a member of NC State...
Wisconsin has two running backs on the watch list for this year, when RW puts up similar rushing numbers he is def going to get thrown in the mix... 6/27/2011 12:38:42 PM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
SportsRussell Talk]
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Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
i like this thread ![](images/smile.gif) 6/27/2011 12:42:52 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
why a heisman watch thread for a guy who's on the wisonsin football team? 6/27/2011 12:48:06 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
although he's on wisconsin, he was the savior of ncstate football. Post river football was atrocious and he came in and single-handedly changed that and brough excitement back. Even though we only came back for 3 years, I will never forget him for that. 6/27/2011 1:13:18 PM
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bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
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6/27/2011 1:14:34 PM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
we only "came back" for one year.
you realize RW only had one winning season as starting QB (not that this was his fault), right? 6/27/2011 1:15:32 PM
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Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35773 Posts user info edit post |
Russell Wilson torn ACL watch 2011 6/27/2011 1:17:11 PM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
But he beat unc-ch 3 times. He is our lord and savior 6/27/2011 1:17:20 PM
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uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know many that would put a rusty ass QB on a new team on the heisman watch list. actually, it will probably be the same that put a freshman on a pre-season all america team. 6/27/2011 1:17:46 PM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Don't let the troll make you anti-RW. 6/27/2011 1:18:29 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We had excitement in those years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQPST9uWsIE&feature=related I remember thinking I would never see anything special in my days at NCSTATE then he came along and changed everything. The ECU game is dearest in my heart because that was the first real glimpse.
The Miami run was incredible.
The FSU run was incredible.
The UNC games were incredible.
Think of all the plays he bought several seconds and ran around until something opened up then bulleted a man in a crowd in the chest for a td.
He's going to open up so much for wisconsin because you have to use your ends/lbs to contain him. If he gets outside its either a big run or a touchdown. When teams play contain defense it opens up the middle run. Wisconsin already has the best middle run in the country so teams can't really afford to open that up. Theres no solution. Wisconsin will have a top 5 offense next year. 6/27/2011 1:26:31 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
Totally Awesome1!!!! 6/27/2011 1:28:24 PM
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't know many that would put a rusty ass QB on a new team on the heisman watch list. " |
so missing 3 months of spring practice makes him a rusty ass QB?? 6/27/2011 1:34:51 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
he was pretty rusty last year and he didn't miss an entire 3 months. and he had the same receivers. 6/27/2011 1:36:37 PM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think that post was a little heavy on the hyperbole.
That said, it was obvious last year that he was a bit rusty for the first few games--- we happened to win those games, so it wasn't a problem.
Of course, now he's gonna be playing with other players that he doesn't even know. That's not a lot of time to build chemistry with your O-line and receivers. However, I think if anyone can pull it off, it's RW.
Realistically, he's not a Heisman candidate.
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .] 6/27/2011 1:37:38 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
He's not the best and probably won't have the stats to win since they will be running so much and other teams will be out of games early. It will be hard to get two finalists from the same team but wisconsin will have a guy in ny mark my words. 6/27/2011 1:40:29 PM
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rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
Heisman winners don't get dominated by ECU 6/27/2011 1:42:47 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
They won't be playing ECU and I'm pretty sure they won't lose a game either unless its in Lansing
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM. Reason : and thats a tough game that they should win] 6/27/2011 1:44:08 PM
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Heisman winners don't get dominated by ECU" |
but ALL ACC Quarterbacks do? 6/27/2011 1:57:21 PM
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rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
second team ones do
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM. Reason : he was first team in 08] 6/27/2011 1:59:19 PM
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Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
the entire wisconsin offense wont be based on his ability to create plays when the designed plays break down. They have a good o-line (as always) and 2 solid tailbacks he can hand the ball to. He'll be an improvement at QB for the Badgers, but he won't put up the same rushing #'s he did at State. 6/27/2011 2:05:26 PM
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fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Wisconsin may have a good O-Line, but I know we always had to run plays out of the shotgun simply so RW could see overtop of them to look downfield (and partially because our o-line was so young/inexperienced meaning RW needed to create more). One thing I'm looking forward to with Glennon this year is his height since we'll be able to run more formations - should help Greene in the running game also.
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 2:14 PM. Reason : tbdv] 6/27/2011 2:13:29 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
if russell wilson wins the heisman, i'll poop my pants. 6/27/2011 3:30:47 PM
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ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9817 Posts user info edit post |
It pisses me off that he's gonna be remembered as a Wisconsin player not a State player. So if/when we see him go pro they'll probably announce his alma mater ever game as UW. 6/27/2011 7:04:59 PM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
He will be a finalist. 6/27/2011 7:46:21 PM
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ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if russell wilson wins the heisman, i'll poop my pants." |
your pants are safe 6/27/2011 10:00:45 PM
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Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Good luck to RW, though it's going to be bittersweet as hell watching him next year. He wasn't perfect, but man he was fun to watch. I've never seen a player make more out of nothing than him.
Part of me is pumped to watch him do his thing next year. The other part is praying Glennon doesn't suck 6/27/2011 10:14:49 PM
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uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^i think we all know he is only there to play ball and not get a degree so technically his alma mater will still be NC State just sayin
[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 10:21 PM. Reason : .] 6/27/2011 10:16:34 PM
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BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
maybe we'll go to a bowl game against wisconsin..
you know the bowl committees would eat that up... 6/27/2011 10:17:23 PM
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
and russell wilson would prolly eat us up... 6/27/2011 10:18:49 PM
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Motiak All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
I can see how Russell might win the heisman when he managed a dominant 27 against ECU last season while other offensive powerhouses like Rice and UAB only managed 62 and 42 points respectively. 6/28/2011 5:55:11 AM
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NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62373 Posts user info edit post |
they would prob put wisconsin against state in a bowl just for the storyline
but then again, we wont be bowl eligible] 6/28/2011 8:17:15 AM
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bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thats because to ECU, playing state or UNC is like playing in the superbowl. We on the other hand have nothing to gain by playing them. We came out sluggish and got behind early. In bigtime NC State sports, it seems we always play down to our competition. I'm hoping TOB and Gotty can get us out of this mindset. 6/28/2011 9:01:52 AM
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MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
we won't qualify for a bowl as prestigious as the one Wisconsin will play in 6/28/2011 9:26:13 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
SUSPEND TERMINATE MURDER 6/28/2011 9:33:36 AM
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ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ thats because to ECU, playing state or UNC is like playing in the superbowl. We on the other hand have nothing to gain by playing them. We came out sluggish and got behind early. In bigtime NC State sports, it seems we always play down to our competition. I'm hoping TOB and Gotty can get us out of this mindset." |
You sound like a unc fan.
oh and
Gott
Gotty
Coach G Gottfried
It's not that hard. It doesn't need to be shorter. It doesn't need to be catchy. 6/28/2011 9:40:04 AM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
You better get used to it, people are going to call him Coach Gott. I'd prefer that over Gotty. 6/28/2011 9:50:16 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
lets call him G MAN
fuck gminski. 6/28/2011 10:01:25 AM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
Marky G? 6/28/2011 10:06:18 AM
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aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Gott a lotta ding dong 6/28/2011 10:07:55 AM
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BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
We have nothing to gain by playing ECU?
If I was coach, i'd kick off any player who had that mentality.
There is absolutely no reason for the team to come out sluggish b/c of who they playing. You come out to win every game. They need to get that through their head and buck up for every game. 6/28/2011 10:48:38 AM
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uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
From one standpoint, it is correct, we do not have anything to gain by playing ECU. If we lose it looks horrible, if we win, it doesn't mean shit and it sucks we are forced to schedule them as often as we do. 6/28/2011 10:55:09 AM
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BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Wisconsin lost @MSU last year, and plays @MSU again this year.. that's kinda shitty.. 6/28/2011 11:50:31 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, kinda like when we didn't play duke for 4 years. (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007).
2003 @ Duke and 2008 @ Duke.
expansion is dumb. 6/28/2011 2:08:36 PM
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Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Media dick riders, wut wut 6/28/2011 3:35:30 PM
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ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/28455/sources-wisconsin-gets-its-man-in-wilson
Interesting to see what people are saying from the Big 10. I am starting to have Wilson withdraw.
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Published Wed, Jun 29, 2011 05:40 AM Modified Wed, Jun 29, 2011 08:15 AM Tudor: Don't blame former Pack star Wilson BY CAULTON TUDOR - Staff Writer Published in: NC State
Wisconsin didn't just get a quarterback on Monday. With Russell Wilson, the Badgers got a Heisman Trophy candidate.
N.C. State, on the other hand, got what coach Tom O'Brien, many Wolfpack fans and Wilson's former teammates could sense from the moment he was granted a scholarship release in early May - a potentially frustrating chance to see Wilson play quarterback for a different team.
In parts of two minor league baseball seasons, it was apparent Wilson didn't have major league potential. He may yet take another stab at the sport, but Wilson will turn 23 in November and doesn't yet have a feel for the strike zone.
That Wilson would return to football was a near certainty from the time his batting average seemed to get stuck in the .225 range with the Class A Asheville Tourists.
Just as quickly, O'Brien was trapped in the equivalent of a baseball run-down.
If the coach had saved the quarterback job for Wilson, there's a chance red-shirt junior Mike Glennon, having graduated in May, could have used the same immediate-eligibility option as a graduate student that Wilson used to transfer.
Some Wolfpack fans may resent Wilson's decision Monday, and that's marginally understandable.
Wilson made himself the face of N.C. State football and emerged against long odds to become one of the best quarterbacks in ACC history. He rivaled former Pack star Philip Rivers in terms of sheer popularity.
No one, however, should blame Wilson for taking advantage of the transfer rules and for wanting to keep his football career alive.
At barely 6 feet tall (if that), Wilson has only a slim chance of getting a decent shot at playing in the NFL regardless of what he accomplishes at Wisconsin.
But Wilson has been overcoming the size issue in football most of his life. He's not going to give up on the NFL dream until every door has been closed.
The upshot of the development will be a world of pressure on almost everyone directly involved.
There'll be pressure on Wilson to excel at Wisconsin in a new offense against unfamiliar defenses.
There'll be pressure on Glennon to succeed in his first real season as a college player. Working behind Wilson and on a team that played a lot of tight games, Glennon hasn't seen enough true game action to judge his abilities.
And there'll be pressure on O'Brien. If Glennon struggles or is hurt, a certain amount of second-guessing will be inescapable.
But in the final analysis, everyone did what he thought was best under the circumstances.
O'Brien is getting paid to oversee a program, meaning he had to pay at least some attention to the quarterback picture for 2012.
Wilson wanted to keep playing at N.C. State, but not as much as he wanted to keep playing football period.
Given a career mulligan, perhaps Wilson would have put an end to his baseball career a year ago. But you can't blame a guy for cashing in on a $250,000 contract offer, either.
There are ramifications galore for all parties, but there's no reason to assign fault to anyone.
caulton.tudor@newsobserver.com or 919-829-8946" |
6/29/2011 2:32:16 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
Media Sensationalism? 6/29/2011 2:36:59 PM
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Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ STUNNING 6/29/2011 3:12:05 PM
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