Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
not what it takes to get in, but what an undergraduate actually makes.
specifically UNC, NCSU, et al.
i tried googling but i can't seem to do it. 7/28/2011 10:00:41 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
you mean...the average? 7/28/2011 10:01:46 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
yeah. sorry i wan't clear, but i dont know what else there would be
std deviations would be good too.
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason : sfdfds] 7/28/2011 10:02:37 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
7/28/2011 10:03:54 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
I
WASN'T
CLEAR 7/28/2011 10:06:48 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
specifically...et al. 7/28/2011 10:11:12 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
i swear i hate all of you.
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:13 AM. Reason : i was thinking something that had a lot of comparable schools with unc and ncsu being on the list. ]
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:14 AM. Reason : next time im sending my topics to a fucking editor.] 7/28/2011 10:13:02 AM |
JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
std deviations only apply if you end up with one of the big 3 vd's no? 7/28/2011 10:14:24 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=499444&page=34 7/28/2011 10:23:47 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
oh i thought you were goin for "i won't clear" heh 7/28/2011 10:25:18 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Information is a bit out-of-date is but this might work
http://gradeinflation.com/ 7/28/2011 10:27:31 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha
its not that big of a deal (hence the hastily typed op)
but whattahappened was cody and i were talking about UNC and the merits of their school. of course it was a little biased but we were trying to be as objective as possible (which of course was probably not )...and we starting talking about whether, academically, it really was a superior school. got me to thinking too... well i heard (i think from here) that the gpas of undergraduates at UNC are usually a bit higher than that of say NCSU or ECU or even WFU or Duke. But i'm not sure.
couple that (if it is true) with the fact that they only take generally really smart people. i did read somewhere that 97% of their incoming freshman have a 3.75 or higher. (i can find that source if you want )
now combining these two it makes me think that its a strong possibility that the level of basic courses being taught are NO harder than that of competing schools. i mean these students could go to almost any school and get the same caliber education (now there are some exceptions im sure, im being kinda general here...thinking about bio 101 shit)
this would mean that they don't provide a better education (of course like i said there are a few exceptions, isn't UNC known for journalism?)
now there is the possibility that the classes are harder and they still are making better grades. (this is very much so a possibility but it would be kinda hard to prove, and even then could the grading scale be easier? padding grades? it would be hard to prove)
and also theres the idea that other schools just party more
of course this is COMPLETELY contingent on the gpa of students of UNC as well as other schools.
thats the short.
let it be known that 1. i do NOT accept any of this as fact, just musings to myself. i'm sure there are several flaws in that thinking...feel free to point them out. a nd i am fully aware that you guys have the ability to blow this out of the water and make me feel really really dumb. do it. i have no problem admitting i am wrong. then i can muse on something else.
B. i understand that i am in NO way the first person to think this. but its kinda fun to come up with on your own
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM. Reason : ^thanks boo ] 7/28/2011 10:33:35 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously though, are you talking about undergraduates who graduate? I think 2.0 is like the rock bottom minimum GPA you can get without getting kicked out eventually. And then each college has their own requirements that may be higher than that. So it seems like the stats would be skewed by the fact that people who don't meet a minimum get the boot.
I'd guess Chapel Hill's average is much, much higher than State's average. UNC-CH has way more grade inflation, and State has more unprepared kids getting their butts kicked in math/science classes that I can't even name. Chapel Hill is moving to those contextualized transcripts that basically call out easy classes. 7/28/2011 10:33:40 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNC-CH has way more grade inflation, and State has more unprepared kids getting their butts kicked in math/science classes that I can't even name" |
this is basically what im thinking
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM. Reason : that site ROCKS ernie! ]7/28/2011 10:34:39 AM |
JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
On the GPA thing, there's no actual measurement that can accurately be taken. Too many variables. Too easy to prejudice.
You could measure successful graduation from schools in a GPA range and the likelihood of employment without graduate education, but even that is going to have to account for things that make no sense. (Emotional variables, background, previous education, extracurricular activities, community situation) 7/28/2011 10:40:01 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Carolina is a good school, most of the people who attend are good people. State is a good school, some of the people who attend are fuckheads. The only people who argue over academic integrity are insecure about their own education. Glass houses and shit. 7/28/2011 10:41:49 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
^ i am not saying that UNC is a bad school..... at all. (i wasn't trying to argue that at all...did it come off that way?!?! )
i'm wondering if it's a superior school like most people believe it is.
i mean i guess it is in the fact that only "the brightest" go there.
this whole convo stemmed from the classic "youre just mad cause you didn't get in to UNC" statement.
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM. Reason : sfdfdss] 7/28/2011 10:44:01 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
You wanna fight
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM. Reason : I'll hit you right in the face] 7/28/2011 10:45:13 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
BRING IT BITCH 7/28/2011 10:45:45 AM |
Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
Have you searched google's deep web or dark net? 7/28/2011 10:46:46 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
^ i have never heard of those
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM. Reason : i'm gonna study for a few hours ... don't be too hard on me ] 7/28/2011 10:48:13 AM |
JohnNoir Suspenisioned 127 Posts user info edit post |
^^Don't be mad if you didn't get into UNC. Be mad if you didn't get into Shaw. 7/28/2011 10:55:37 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck is going on itt 7/28/2011 11:04:03 AM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
absolutely nothing
im just rambling 7/28/2011 11:05:20 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
It's pretty much impossible to judge how good an education one gets at a school relative to others.
Even widely accepted rankings like Princeton Review are based on mostly stuff like graduation rate (the higher the better) and how much alumni donate. 7/28/2011 11:13:34 AM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED
DISEASE
DEVIATIONS" |
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Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
lol i didnt even realize i did that
ATM MACHINE 7/28/2011 12:27:41 PM |
stategrad100 All American 6606 Posts user info edit post |
Certainly. The data you seek is exclusively maintained by the IRS, where net income over your lifetime is correlated at a rate of $5 per 0.01 grade point.
By the way, if you're still playing with your phonograph, check out http://www.apple.com/ipod for more parts
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM. Reason : Quote : | ""youre just mad cause you didn't get in to UNC" statement. " | I got into UNC!]7/28/2011 12:32:49 PM |
CEmann All American 1913 Posts user info edit post |
specifically i wan't sure who was better myself 7/28/2011 11:09:04 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
My feeling is that an undergrad degree from State is worth more than one from UNC, while a grad degree from UNC is generally worth more than one from State. 7/29/2011 12:44:47 AM |