11/05/11 at Grand Canyon (EXH) Phoenix, Ariz. TBA
11/11/11 vs. Montana State Tempe, Ariz. 2:30 p.m. MT
11/15/11 vs. Pepperdine Tempe, Ariz. TBA
11/18/11 vs. New Mexico Tempe, Ariz. TBA
Old Spice Classic
11/24/11 vs. Fairfield Orlando, Fla. TBA
11/25/11 Dayton/Wake Forest Orlando, Fla. TBA
11/27/11 TBD Orlando, Fla. TBA
12/03/11 at Tulsa Tulsa, Okla. TBA
12/07/11 vs. Nevada Tempe, Ariz. TBA
12/10/11 vs. North Dakota State Tempe, Ariz. TBA
12/17/11 vs. Northern Arizona Tempe, Ariz. TBA
12/19/11 vs. Southern Miss TV Tempe, Ariz. 8:00 p.m. MT
12/21/11 vs. Fresno State Tempe, Ariz. TBA
12/31/11 at Arizona Tucson, Ariz. TBA
01/05/12 at USC Los Angeles, Calif. TBA
01/07/12 at UCLA Anaheim, Calif. TBA
01/12/12 vs. Oregon TV Tempe, Ariz. 8:30 p.m. MT
01/14/12 vs. Oregon State Tempe, Ariz. TBA
01/19/12 at Colorado Boulder, Colo. TBA
01/21/12 at Utah Salt Lake City, Utah TBA
01/26/12 vs. Washington Tempe, Ariz. TBA
01/28/12 vs. Washington State Tempe, Ariz. TBA
02/02/12 at Stanford Stanford, Calif. TBA
02/04/12 at California Berkeley, Calif. TBA
02/09/12 vs. Utah Tempe, Ariz. TBA
02/11/12 vs. Colorado Tempe, Ariz. TBA
02/16/12 at Washington TV Seattle, Wash. 8:00 p.m. PT
02/18/12 at Washington State Pullman, Wash. TBA
02/23/12 vs. UCLA Tempe, Ariz. TBA
02/25/12 vs. USC Tempe, Ariz. TBA
03/04/12 vs. Arizona TV Tempe, Ariz. 1:30 p.m. MT

guaranteed wins are bolded


easy out of conference schedule leads to 9-3 record going into conference play. i could see an 6-12 conference record. 15-15 record (before the PAC-10 tourney) keeps ASU at home for the 2nd straight season

0 Carrick Felix* G-F 6-6 196 JR Goodyear, AZ
5 Kyle Cain F 6-7 210 SO Calumet City, IL
13 Jordan Bachynski*C 7-2 243 SO Calgary, AB
15 Chanse CreekmurG-F 6-5 216 SO Marshalltown, IA
21 Keala King* G 6-4 201 SO Compton, CA
23 Ruslan Pateev C 7-0 249 JR Moscow,
24 Trent Lockett* G 6-4 210 JR Golden Valley, MN
25 Marcus Jackson G 6-1 183 JR Sacramento, CA
33 Dave Whitmore F 6-6 215 SO Tempe, AZ

newcomers: 4-star PG Jahii Carson, Kuksiks v 2.0 named Jonathan Gilling from Denmark, and Iowa State PG transfer (played in 29 games) named Chris Colvin*

* starters?

[Edited on October 6, 2011 at 8:09 PM. Reason : b]

10/6/2011 8:06:22 PM

first scrimmage is Oct 22

we won't know anything about Carson for a while. I'll be sure to keep y'all posted though

10/6/2011 8:08:31 PM

Isn't Nevada usually pretty decent? They had Nick Fazekas a few years back. The Wolf Pack will kick Herb's ass.

10/6/2011 8:09:25 PM

Malik Story is a stud

aside from that, they seem to have a lot of work to do after a 19-loss season

not worried about that game


upon further research, I'm worried about that game


[Edited on October 6, 2011 at 8:16 PM. Reason : ,]

10/6/2011 8:11:03 PM

Wow, they're taking on the whole Grand Canyon? Get'em Herb.

10/7/2011 12:46:56 AM

^^I admire your dedication

10/7/2011 12:48:33 AM

I spent 8 hours in that canyon and at no point did I see a university

10/7/2011 12:51:01 AM

Looking to add that elusive Old Spice championship I see. If Herb can't take them there, ASU may be able to steal Sidney Lowe away from the Jazz.

10/7/2011 4:42:52 AM

While I don't expect ASU to lose to Nevada, I wouldn't call that a guaranteed win.

10/7/2011 9:05:20 AM

Quote :

"The Wolf Pack will kick Herb's ass"

is there another wolfpack they are playing?

10/7/2011 9:09:25 AM

N.C. State = Wolfpack
Nevada = Wolf Pack

10/7/2011 4:25:30 PM

duh

10/7/2011 4:34:22 PM

^^^ Wow. Someone had a brain fart.

10/7/2011 4:38:03 PM

Remember the name Carrick Felix

you'll be glad you did

11/11/2011 5:01:41 PM

ouch

11/15/2011 10:15:58 PM

down 57-48 under 4 mins to play

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 10:18 PM. Reason : against pepperdine]

11/15/2011 10:18:40 PM

57-50

shooting in the ballpark of 11% in the 2nd half

11/15/2011 10:22:36 PM

Quote :

"guaranteed wins are bolded 11/15/11 vs. Pepperdine Tempe, Ariz. TBA"

[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM. Reason : pepper]

11/15/2011 10:25:35 PM

pretty ugly loss at home

I'm stumped

11/15/2011 10:32:51 PM

only positives are:

Lockett's 23 points,
Cain's 10 rebounds,
team only had 4 turnovers in the 2nd half
Herb switched to M2M in the 2nd half and shut down PU's red hot 3pt shooting

11/15/2011 10:36:06 PM

kill yourself

11/15/2011 10:57:23 PM

i'm good

11/15/2011 11:31:10 PM

i hope they lose every game

11/15/2011 11:32:43 PM

i fully acknowledge that it's irrational for me to still hate herb so much, but i totally do. i don't want him to get fired, per se, but i want it to be a mystery why he still has a job.

11/15/2011 11:39:16 PM

I don't hate Herb

I hate the way NC State was treated when Herb left. Thus, I want the man to fail miserably just to laugh in the face of the sports media world that said we were crazy for running him off.

As far as a person goes, Herb's a great guy

11/15/2011 11:53:56 PM

Quote :

"Remember the name Carrick Felix you'll be glad you did"

i doubt that
[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 12:39 AM. Reason : -->

11/16/2011 12:38:27 AM

so ASU got whooped at home by Pepperdine? nice! i'll be honest, not sure how that guy still has a job there, the program is in the tank. oh well, hopefully he'll be canned by the end of the year, and people will finally stfu about how state "treated him" so poorly.

11/16/2011 2:20:57 AM

i look forward to the many laughs this thread will bring

11/16/2011 2:31:42 AM

simply enough, if Mark G wins games, the media will shut up about Herb

then we'll all be happy

11/16/2011 7:02:11 AM

[quote]I hate the way NC State was treated when Herb left. Thus, I want the man to fail miserably just to laugh in the face of the sports media world that said we were crazy for running him off.[quote]

I hate the way Herb was treated when had this program in the top tier of the ACC.

11/16/2011 9:09:52 AM

Quote :

"GUARANTEED WINS BOLDED"

11/16/2011 9:26:14 AM

Quote :

" I don't hate Herb I hate the way NC State was treated when Herb left. Thus, I want the man to fail miserably just to laugh in the face of the sports media world that said we were crazy for running him off. As far as a person goes, Herb's a great guy"

I agree.

11/16/2011 9:39:17 AM

Quote :

"simply enough, if Mark G wins games, the media will shut up about Herb"

Who in the media still talks about Herb? Who outside of Arizona and this messaging board still cares? We're 2 coaches removed from him now, why are we still bothering to follow his team?

[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 9:57 AM. Reason : -]

11/16/2011 9:57:36 AM

Mike Patrick, who somehow commentates half of State's games, still talks about NCSU "forcing out Herb Sendek for the more popular Sidney Lowe"

11/16/2011 10:03:48 AM

^^ Well let's see, every year for the last five, right around the point it becomes obvious that we won't make the tournament, the in-game commentators would ALWAYS point out that we went to five in a row under Herb. And there is always some thinly-veiled comment about him being run out of town.

[Edited on November 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ...]

11/16/2011 10:04:43 AM

Quote :

"11/25/11 Dayton/Wake Forest Orlando, Fla. TBA"

Hoping for Dayton.

Archie vs. Herb. Archie +5.

11/16/2011 11:20:10 AM

11/16/2011 11:52:49 AM

Quote :

"Well let's see, every year for the last five, right around the point it becomes obvious that we won't make the tournament, the in-game commentators would ALWAYS point out that we went to five in a row under Herb."

I mean, it's kind of a fact... and a relevant one when the coach who left was replaced by a guy who didn't make a single tourney. Obviously, at this point two coaches removed, it would be foolish for the sports media to bring it up because Herb wasn't "ran off" or whatever and replaced by our current coach.

11/16/2011 5:55:20 PM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=43&f=1681&t=8271051

it's like deja vu all over again

11/16/2011 6:40:32 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2011/11/22/20111122asu-lisa-love-pressure-big-hire.html

11/23/2011 12:49:18 PM

Quote :

"why are we still bothering to follow his team"

this.

if we're just trying to rile up some herb arguments then i guess that has it's place...but outside of that who gives a shit?

11/23/2011 1:31:27 PM

ncstatetke gives a shit. (actually, he probably doesn't)

11/23/2011 1:35:01 PM

I love the NCSU dude (pskunk911) on the ASU scout page who goes over there to troll

he's a riot

11/23/2011 5:21:44 PM

herb will be fired after this year and then he'll take an assistant job somewhere or head coach a d2 or 3 school

11/23/2011 5:23:54 PM

nah. they'll shock the world and finish with a winning record

that's really all that they're looking for

11/23/2011 5:28:58 PM

they can look all they want but its not gonna happen. even the low expectation having asu fans are ready to get rid of him.

11/23/2011 5:31:48 PM

they're a football school. they hate Dennis Erikson. that's the fish to fry at this moment

11/23/2011 5:33:07 PM

they'll both be fired

11/23/2011 5:35:16 PM

same story as here...
1. he's too stubborn
2. host of transfers that go to other schools and do good
3. doesnt change his system to fit the players he has


etc. etc. etc.

fuck him, we're past it and you should be too

11/23/2011 5:37:06 PM

I like the man and I'm emotionally attached to his program and his players. I'll follow him where ever he goes

simple as that

11/23/2011 5:49:12 PM