pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
in our existence in the universe.
This is the thread where DeltaBeta drops the hammer once and for all and proves that other intelligent life in the universe relating to our existence is not only a proven impossibility but even irrational to think that such exists. 12/14/2011 4:59:44 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather discuss something more useful... instead of a paroty troll thread in response to DeltaBeta
Let's turn this into a thread about what it would take politically and technologically to explore the universe and colonize the stars
I'll start:
I think in the 100 - 200 years we'll have the capability of reaching the stars... but morally do we have any reason to do so and start preparing for such travels?
[Edited on December 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM. Reason : -] 12/14/2011 5:06:21 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
You do recognize that there's a difference between impossible and improbable, right?
And you do recognize that most atheists don't think gods are impossible, only improbable, right?
And you do recognize that makes this whole goddamn thing a huge straw man, right?
Right? 12/14/2011 6:46:39 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
I think that once you start speaking on the multiverse level you can't really say this proposition, intelligent life that has a role in our existence, is improbable.
For our own universe, we can be pretty sure that life originating from Mars is a good bit less probable than starting on this Earth, and for several reasons the idea of an advanced form of life creating our original cellular structure or anything else like that won't make useful predictions for now.
But we don't have a clear basis for the fine tuning of the universe and interactions beyond our current physical constraints and the big bang are complete unknown unknowns. Plus, the anthropic principle is whack. 12/14/2011 6:54:44 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
Regardless of how probable it is, improbable is not the same thing as impossible. If pack_bryan could demonstrate that he can tell the difference, then we could elevate this conversation quite a bit.
Quote : | "I think that once you start speaking on the multiverse level you can't really say this proposition, intelligent life that has a role in our existence, is improbable." |
Unless we had evidence to suggest the proposition is true, why wouldn't it be reasonable to suggest it's improbable? What kind of probability would we assign to an unknown unknown besides an infinitesimal value (serious question)?12/14/2011 7:07:18 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the thread where DeltaBeta drops the hammer once and for all and proves that other intelligent life in the universe relating to our existence is not only a proven impossibility but even irrational to think that such exists." |
Hey man, you're the one making the claim. Bring forward your evidence and we'll all consider it.12/14/2011 7:25:19 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
Still waiting on DeltaBeta to drop that almighty hammer once and for all where he shows images and proof that there was no intelligence or reasoning in our existence and that it is merely coincidental.
Or you can continue to be emotionally invested in my definitions of words and personal level of intellect. lol. 12/14/2011 7:26:26 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
You can't prove a negative, you dumb son of a bitch. 12/14/2011 7:28:14 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Or you can continue to be emotionally invested in my definitions of words and personal level of intellect. lol." |
Kind of hard to have a discussion when you don't understand the basic position you're arguing against... or English. Yea, that's kind of hard. Sorry.12/14/2011 7:28:36 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
A) There exists a possibility that there has been some intelligent role in the existence of life in this solar system
B) There cannot exist this possibility about life on this planet and solar system 12/14/2011 7:29:39 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
No one here is arguing B). Seriously, no one. 12/14/2011 7:30:30 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
12/14/2011 7:31:25 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
EuroTT: your argument about impossible and improbable wasn't part of the original meaning of this thread.
However if DeltaBeta admits that it is possible (regardless of however improbable) that there are alternate possibilities other than his own, than we can begin the discussion of such.
Your move DeltaBeta
^ok at this point it's useless to even begin discussion. he's just trying rant and rave at anything he doesn't agree with. /thread.
free thread....
V SHOW me where i made the claim that there 100% exists a diety
VV lol you don't care about finding out why or how we got here? um ok. lol to each his own i guess.
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DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
I have never once said it was impossible. I am saying I will never believe in the existence of any deity until reproducible, verifiable evidence for it is found. You have been making the claims for it, without any evidence, mind you, and THEN saying others are unwilling to even accept it in the realm of possibility. 12/14/2011 7:39:37 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
ITT i don't understand p_b's perspective.
What consequence or value is there in accepting that super-intelligent aliens, midichlorians, spaghetti monsters, or a god might have had a hand in humanity?? 12/14/2011 7:41:28 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, do you think 95% of the human population loves getting brainwashed and bullshitted too? Because according to ^, he thinks 95% of the earth is inferior to him and has some logical malfunction. Does 95% of the human species truly have a massive defect? " |
Right there for one spot. You obviously lump yourself into the 95%.*
*Bullshit statistic made up on the spot.12/14/2011 7:43:33 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
lol ok. if you think i lumped myself into that get back to me when you learn the english language. 12/14/2011 7:44:39 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " lol you don't care about finding out why or how we got here? um ok. lol to each his own i guess. " |
tee hee
your inconsequential creator doesn't elucidate the question of why/how we got here.12/14/2011 7:45:34 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Then why the fuck does it seem to irk the shit out of you that I don't believe it? Seriously, if you don't have Down's or some form of actual mental defect, then I am at a loss for words at what I've seen you post today. 12/14/2011 7:45:43 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
lol it irks the shit out of me so much that you made a thread directed 100% at me, and now posting 300x per hour in literally a fucking parroty thread i made of yours. lol yeh logic 101 is your strong point.
[Edited on December 14, 2011 at 7:51 PM. Reason : ,] 12/14/2011 7:49:16 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Me getting my lols fucking with a mental midget doesn't equal being irked. Even if it wasn't an excellent troll, it would have been astoundingly funny. You however made a counter thread, and have argued like a fucking 6 year old with ADHD about shit that has made no sense to anyone.
BTW, the thread I made is absolutely serious. PLEASE bring some evidence for a god and put it in there.
[Edited on December 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM. Reason : *] 12/14/2011 7:52:34 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
lol u mad 12/14/2011 7:53:26 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
lock by originator request 12/14/2011 8:00:59 PM |