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![](http://assets.espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/med/trans/152.gif) | NC State (6-4) | | | vs | | | St. Bonaventure (5-4) | ![](http://assets.espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/med/trans/179.gif) |
| Tuesday, December 20th, 7:00pm No TV |
St. Bonaventure schedule to date: Cornell W 79-58 @ Cleveland State L 67-64 @ Siena W 64-58 @ Virginia Tech L 73-64 Arkansas State L 58-52 @ Buffalo W 66-60 @ #22 Illinois L 48-43 Canisius W 81-62 Loyola (MD) W 76-66
GO STATE! 12/19/2011 11:52:35 AM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
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12/19/2011 11:54:56 AM
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phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
this feels like a WTF loss...I hope I'm wrong. 12/19/2011 12:08:55 PM
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State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
W
7-4
iop1 12/19/2011 2:37:40 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Saint Bonaventure, O.F.M., (Italian: San Bonaventura; 1221 – 15 July 1274),[1] born John of Fidanza (Italian: Giovanni di Fidanza), was an Italian medieval scholastic theologian and philosopher. The seventh Minister General of the Order of Friars Minor, he was also a Cardinal Bishop of Albano. He was canonized on 14 April 1482 by Pope Sixtus IV and declared a Doctor of the Church in the year 1588 by Pope Sixtus V. He is known as the "Seraphic Doctor" (Latin: Doctor Seraphicus). Many writings believed in the Middle Ages to be his are now collected under the name Pseudo-Bonaventura." |
(maybe ghost edit it down to 10 pics, so the scroll bar isn't necessary?) 12/19/2011 2:40:06 PM
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DROD900 All American 24640 Posts user info edit post |
damn, no espn3 or anything? 12/19/2011 2:57:06 PM
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aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
No TV 12/19/2011 3:09:46 PM
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UJustWait84 All American 25816 Posts user info edit post |
entertaining L 12/19/2011 3:15:00 PM
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Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
BS! ![](images/mad.gif) 12/19/2011 3:20:09 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Our season has really gotten away from us and this is a 50/50 type game.
Unfortunately, these guys aren't any good so a win barely helps us and a loss seals our NIT at best fate.
Unreal this isn't watchable. Hopefully we aren't far from turning the corner where our program isn't such an afterthought that we can't even get on television when facing a top 100 team. 12/19/2011 4:12:45 PM
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aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Our season has really gotten away from us and this is a 50/50 type game.
Unfortunately, these guys aren't any good so a win barely helps us and a loss seals our NIT at best fate." |
It was always a long shot to even be considered for an at-large bid this season so not every game we play needs to be framed as a possible entry on a tournament resume. We just need to learn how to win basketball games and every game we win "helps us" achieve that. 12/19/2011 4:21:00 PM
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amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
does timewarner carry NO TV?!?1 12/19/2011 5:37:50 PM
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dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like a job for 101.5 12/19/2011 5:40:03 PM
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Elwood All American 4057 Posts user info edit post |
iop1!
need a big confidence building wins and start a little win streak for some momentum!
I just like a game we can pull away use are bench to build on the lead. everyone need minutes.
oh dancing Double U's
[Edited on December 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM. Reason : sa] 12/19/2011 5:51:37 PM
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adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Our season has really gotten away from us and this is a 50/50 type game." |
Only in the world of rallydurham are close losses to teams that should have beaten you considered a season that has "really gotten away". ![](images/rolleyes.gif) 12/19/2011 6:19:15 PM
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Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12764 Posts user info edit post |
seems like a schedule fail to play this away on tuesday and then play home on thursday 12/19/2011 6:36:37 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm not sure what these close losses are that you are speaking of.
We've been handled twice on our homecourt by double digits. We blew a double digit lead with like 5 minutes left in one game. And we lost on a neutral court to a likely non tournament team by 7.
If it wasn't for a miracle win over Texas when their best player fouled out on a technical foul and a nailbiter win over a bad Princeton team we'd be having a horrible season.
So it's not inaccurate at all to say this season has gotten away from us.
We're not even close to being on the bubble right now, and the NIT even looks unlikely at the moment.
Can we improve? Sure. Does it look likely? No.
Let's keep these discussions limited to reality okay. 12/19/2011 6:53:51 PM
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amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
good thing the acc sucks.
/stockpile wins 12/19/2011 7:00:40 PM
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adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We're not even close to being on the bubble right now," |
Only the biggest dumbfuck in the world (face) thought we would be an NCAA tournament team this year so yeah I will take NOT having our ass handed to us by anyone as a positive step. In case you don't remember, at this point last season we had lost by 39 to an unranked Wisconsin team and we had an undoubtedly more talented roster. 12/19/2011 7:14:02 PM
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^And yet this guy was the last one still on Sid's side haha 12/19/2011 7:22:56 PM
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adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
I will admit that Gottfried has done a lot to prove how wrong I was about Sid. So far this team is outperforming my expectations. Of course I didn't have insane expectations like some other people apparently did. 12/19/2011 7:41:37 PM
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saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
ugh, that vandy loss is looking worse by the day 12/19/2011 7:45:58 PM
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d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
I'm thinking this one will be a tie. 12/19/2011 8:05:59 PM
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bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
^is that a dancing 't'?
So is this game, like, completely not able to be watched? No PNC feed? 12/19/2011 9:17:30 PM
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pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
can we get rodney purvis and fast forward to next year? ![](images/frown.gif) 12/20/2011 12:03:09 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck is this adder idiot talking about?
I was the one in here trying to tell people that we were on the outside looking in of the NCAA tournament this year during the preseason and after several games.
But did I think we'd be THIS bad?
Of course not.
I doubt there is a single person on this messageboard that thought we'd start the season this poorly. Is there anyone here that thought we'd play WORSE defense this season (by quite a wide margin) than at anytime under both the Herb & Lowe eras???
This season has definitely rattled everyone's perceptions of what Gottfried would do. Yes, he installed a solid offense that with our talent has us putting up huge numbers... but we're playing the worst defense we've had since statistics were invented.
Who in the hell thought our defense would get worse with Tracy, Javi, & Harrow leaving and a new coach incoming??? 12/20/2011 1:06:25 AM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
We do the opposite of hedging the screen. Instead of the big man stepping up to stop the ball handler from shooting or driving, our big man retreats immediately backwards to the hoop.
So, the dribbler instantly gets an open jumper, and he can just follow our big man to the basket and shoot a short range shot.
It's the dumbest thing I have ever seen. 12/20/2011 1:27:01 AM
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cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
aventure
12/20/2011 1:30:11 AM
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adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I doubt there is a single person on this messageboard that thought we'd start the season this poorly. " |
So we lost our leading scorer and and both point guards from last years team (which btw didn't even go to the NIT) and you expected us to be an NCAA tournament team? I think everyone who was in the least bit rational understood that this was an NIT team at best. But here comes face flipping the fuck out about how we aren't an NCAA tournament team. You really must be a complete dumbfuck...
So what is the inexcusable loss we have had so far this season? Vandy? I mean there has to be a reason why you think this was so unexpected of a start. So far we have won the games we should have won and lost the games that we should have lost. Only surprise is we haven't had a complete melt down and lost a game we shouldn't have or been blown out. 12/20/2011 7:53:38 AM
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dswillia Q(o.oQ) 2190 Posts user info edit post |
All I know is that being a 1 point underdog caused me to call up my buddy in Vegas
Let's go pack!
[Edited on December 20, 2011 at 9:36 AM. Reason : ] 12/20/2011 9:34:51 AM
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Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
We should win this one. I don't think any of us expected a tourney birth this year, but I did think we had an outside shot with how down the ACC is this year. What I can say is that we have been competitive in all of our games this year and at times looked like we had a good shot at winning every game. That was my hope for this year and everything seems to be going well with that plan. 12/20/2011 9:46:27 AM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
we've had the toughest OOC schedule we've had in quite a while, right?
[Edited on December 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM. Reason : VV You know what I meant, smart-guy] 12/20/2011 9:49:48 AM
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MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We do the opposite of hedging the screen. Instead of the big man stepping up to stop the ball handler from shooting or driving, our big man retreats immediately backwards to the hoop.
So, the dribbler instantly gets an open jumper, and he can just follow our big man to the basket and shoot a short range shot.
It's the dumbest thing I have ever seen." |
I've seen both Painter and Howell step out to help out on the screen. Our guards aren't recovering and getting through the screens fast enough to get back on their man. 12/20/2011 9:52:08 AM
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ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
^^what exactly is a pre-out of conference schedule?
[Edited on December 20, 2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason : ] 12/20/2011 9:56:01 AM
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BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
The only loss right now that looks bad is Vandy. If we played them again I'm confident we would win.
Texas is 10-2. They should've beat us. They lost to Oregon St. in overtime right before us. Indiana is 11-0. They beat fucking Kentucky. Yes we should've won this game but oh well. Stanford is 10-1. Their only loss is to Syracuse. Can't blame them for that one.
We have played one hell of a schedule. Anyone that compares this preseason to every season that Lowe has started is dead wrong. Our offensive production has seen a remarkable improvement. Our defense is bad on the perimeter, and we have no depth. I'm overly pleased with Gottfried's progress so far. 12/20/2011 9:58:40 AM
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aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ![](http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsm00rF8yf1qaoa46o1_500.jpg)
Games that make you pre your pants 12/20/2011 10:00:41 AM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this feels like a WTF loss...I hope I'm wrong." |
We're 1.5 pt underdogs, but I hear you.] 12/20/2011 10:38:59 AM
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rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I predict another loss
St Bon = 77 State = 72 12/20/2011 11:22:05 AM
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kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
do we really think we are losing this game? wow. I guess it's possible, but it sucks we're only a 1 pt favorite. 12/20/2011 11:56:09 AM
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ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Uh we aren't favored 12/20/2011 12:01:09 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
we got this 12/20/2011 12:23:14 PM
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kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Uh we aren't favored" |
![](images/frown.gif) 12/20/2011 1:00:50 PM
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dswillia Q(o.oQ) 2190 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We're 1.5 pt underdogs, but I hear you." |
12/20/2011 1:14:27 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
thank god the Time Warner special events channel is showing St. Francis @ Pittsburgh since that'll be such a great game 12/20/2011 1:40:59 PM
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cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I'm liking face lately. He's becoming my favorite bball troll. He's the skokiaan of basketball. Keeps it funny. 12/20/2011 2:09:03 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Javi and Harrow were awful at defense. Tracy was alright at defense his junior year but he sucked dick again at defense and rebounding his senior year because of the knee injury.
Lobo is three times better at PG than either of the shitheads we had last year, so I'm not sure why anyone thought our team and defense would be WORSE this season with a new coach and more experienced players. 12/20/2011 2:21:09 PM
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cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm not sure why anyone thought our team and defense would be WORSE this season with a new coach and more experienced the same players." |
You're really not sure? 12/20/2011 2:30:42 PM
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AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Not even a gopack stream of this thing anywhere? Or a local feed we can get hackcess to over the internet?
Nothing? 12/20/2011 3:09:32 PM
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ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Don't think there's a local feed. The game is technically at a neutral site so I think that's the main reason why. It looks like they normally have some kind of video for their normal home games, but this isn't one of them. 12/20/2011 3:13:46 PM
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Elwood All American 4057 Posts user info edit post |
How did this slip through the cracks between the new ESPN contract (which had TV at Reynolds Games) and the Gopack live (video whatever its called now)???
I have to listen on a crappy Clock radio since they don't stream live games on 101.5.com. 12/20/2011 4:16:34 PM
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