wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RALEIGH, NC (WTVD) -- A Raleigh woman turned the tables on an alleged burglar when he broke into her home earlier this month.
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Police: Woman beat burglar with bedpost View all 2 photos According to court documents, Victoria Alexis Jones was in her Dorthea Dr. residence around 8 p.m. on January 13 with her two small children when 40-year-old Lucio Miranda allegedly broke in.
Jones said she asked Miranda to leave and when he didn't, she said she sprang into action.
As Miranda closed in on her, she grabbed a wooden bed post.
"He's still coming towards me," she recounted. "And the only thing I knew to do was to protect and defend my family. It just so happened I have an old bed with a solid wood oak post, and it was loose.
She said she grabbed the post and started to beat Miranda.
"As he got in the living room he was about to run," Jones said. "When I hit him that last time, I hit him in his head and he fell out."
Miranda was still on scene when police arrived to arrest him. A booking photo showed him with his right eye swollen shut from the beating.
Miranda was charged with first-degree burglary and possession of stolen goods.
He was treated at WakeMed for a head injury and a broken ankle." |
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8515208
Awesome.1/24/2012 3:33:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148249 Posts user info edit post |
nice 1/24/2012 3:33:57 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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lol
1/24/2012 3:34:30 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
At first I just wanted to rape the bitch and snatch her purse. Now I wanna kill her...but yo I gotta catch her first! 1/24/2012 3:35:05 PM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
saw this on fark earlier didn't realize it was local 1/24/2012 3:35:20 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 24, 2012 at 3:35 PM. Reason : same eye as the beatup face]
1/24/2012 3:35:31 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
damn gg to the lady for standing up to this guy. Dude looks built. 1/24/2012 3:36:07 PM |
GrayFox33 TX R. Snake 10566 Posts user info edit post |
: beatup : should display a mini version of this. 1/24/2012 3:36:56 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Dorothea Drive is right over by the projects. I wonder if she lives in one of those gentrified homes over there. 1/24/2012 3:37:03 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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1/24/2012 3:38:00 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
1/24/2012 3:41:21 PM |
InsultMaster Suspended 1310 Posts user info edit post |
^hahahahaha good one big man !! 1/24/2012 3:42:37 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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wow he looks kinda familiar! 1/24/2012 3:45:54 PM |
freshmonkey HULK SMASH 3870 Posts user info edit post |
BAD ASS!! 1/24/2012 3:56:21 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Everyone here knows Beatup Face. 1/25/2012 3:32:43 AM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
Well, obviously, we have a rapist in Boylen Heights. 1/25/2012 4:19:25 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And the only thing I knew to do was to protect and defend my family" |
Liberals want to destroy this right.1/25/2012 8:23:19 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
better hide yo husbands! 1/25/2012 8:58:38 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I've never seen a better argument for owning shitty furniture. 1/25/2012 9:19:51 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
What that article doesn't say that the video has is that once he was down from the head hit, she started hitting him in the feet and ankles so that he couldn't leave before the cops got there. Now he has a broken ankle.
Also, when the guy got into the house, the woman was in the back about to get in the shower while the kids were in the front. He told them to keep quiet while he went back to get to the mom.
So, isn't her pursuit of the guy illegal or something? Is that just limited to shooting intruders, or did that change with the new laws 1/25/2012 9:21:34 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
That's my understanding. You can use an appropriate amount of force to stop an attack, but once the attack is stopped it becomes assault if you keep pummeling them.
I doubt they'll bring charges against her, but he probably has a good lawsuit if he decides to pursue it. 1/25/2012 9:55:46 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, not if she's got a legitimate fear for her safety. And I would, if I thought he might wake up before the cops got there. How many times in those horror movies do the victims let the murderer go because they think he's dead, only to get stabbed later. He's still in her house, she can neutralize the threat all she wants. 1/25/2012 10:16:02 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
^ 1/25/2012 11:18:32 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nope, not if she's got a legitimate fear for her safety. And I would, if I thought he might wake up before the cops got there. How many times in those horror movies do the victims let the murderer go because they think he's dead, only to get stabbed later. He's still in her house, she can neutralize the threat all she wants." |
Good luck citing "all those horror movies where the victims let the murderer go because they think he's dead, only to get stabbed later" in court.
On a more serious note... Good luck proving he was still a threat when you knocked him out as he was running away from you.
And extra good luck proving he was still a threat when you opened your stupid mouth on the news and told the world you assaulted him for the purpose of detaining him until the police arrived. You can't really take that back and say "lol, jk; I was really scared of him."
[Edited on January 25, 2012 at 11:36 AM. Reason : s]1/25/2012 11:34:53 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
I am pretty sure no one in Wake County is going to prosecute her from attacking a rapist that broke in her home. 1/25/2012 11:36:49 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
You don't have to cite those horror stories, the jury has that in their head. All you have to do is convince people that you were genuinely afraid. Get a bunch of people on that panel who are afraid of home break ins, robberies, and put a big scary guy in the attacker's seat, and it's a slam dunk. 1/25/2012 11:36:53 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I agree and I wouldn't want her to be charged. Still, people need to think about their actions in situations like this and they need to be especially mindful of their words after the incident.
She had all the right in the world to shoot him when he came into her house, but you can't legally assault someone once they are no longer a threat. If she really wanted to ensure the safety of her family she would have taken her kids to a safer location when she knocked him out.
She gave him a well-deserved ass whooping, but that doesn't make it legal.
Quote : | "All you have to do is convince people that you were genuinely afraid. Get a bunch of people on that panel who are afraid of home break ins, robberies, and put a big scary guy in the attacker's seat, and it's a slam dunk." |
I feel for you if you're willing to let your freedom rest on the notion that you can convince a jury not to convict you despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
[Edited on January 25, 2012 at 11:43 AM. Reason : l]1/25/2012 11:40:38 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Still, people need to think about their actions in situations like this and they need to be especially mindful of their words after the incident." |
I wholeheartedly agree with this.1/25/2012 11:42:50 AM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
If they decide her assault on the guy was justified (sounds like they already have), she's immune to any criminal/civil liability 1/25/2012 12:05:07 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ What makes you say that? Got a source? 1/25/2012 12:24:30 PM |
BIGswoll187 All American 3729 Posts user info edit post |
GOT OAK WOOD? 1/25/2012 1:47:38 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
Refer to N.C. General Statute 14-51.2 and .3:
Quote : | "A person who uses force as permitted by this section is justified in using such force and is immune from civil or criminal liability for the use of such force ..." | ]1/25/2012 1:58:01 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""ยง 14-51.3. Use of force in defense of person; relief from criminal or civil liability. (a) A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that the conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force." |
You're still treating the intruder as a threat long after the actual threat was resolved. The threat was legally resolved when he tried to run from her and she knocked him out. Breaking his leg just to keep him around until the police get there could very easily be considered assault or illegal detainment.
It's no different in principal than the convenience store owner who was sent to prison last year for killing an armed robber. The courts ruled that when he shot the robber the first time it was justified as self defense. The second time he shot him the actual threat had already been eliminated and it was therefore murder. I'm sure someone can dig up the TWW thread about it.
There are a lot of reasons that a D.A. might choose not to pursue legal action against her, but "not being charged" is not the same as having a ruling in your favor.1/25/2012 8:09:32 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Citizen's arrest! 1/25/2012 8:11:50 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
bitch swings left handed 1/25/2012 8:15:07 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^the exception for "deadly force" may be of use in this situation as well 1/25/2012 10:18:11 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
I thought the new castle doctrine took all that wimp shit out of the law. 1/25/2012 11:05:51 PM |
Doc Rambo IV All American 7202 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I thought the new frank castle doctrine took all that wimp shit out of the law." |
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