http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10767534/

Fayetteville's city council responded to complaints that police aggressively pushed "consent"("Let us search or there's going to be trouble!") searches disproportionately on black citizens by banning the practice.

The cops called in their union mobsters and used their money to overrule local democracy(local government being the only thing close to actual representative democracy left in this country).

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM. Reason : It's good that they've demonstrated who really runs things around here.]

3/1/2012 2:47:52 PM

Quote :

" searches disproportionately on black citizens"

how. fayetteville is like 94% black.

unless you are in fortbragg or hope mills.

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 2:57 PM. Reason : 2]

3/1/2012 2:57:24 PM

at least is going to court and the dept will be forced to defend their practices....might actually be a good thing.

people need to learn to just say no to these searches.

and this is bringing out some gold golo comments:

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"People seem to think just because they are in their cars they have the search without provacation protection, but in reality that was meant for people and homes to protect americans. When your car leaves your drive way onto public property and is on state property it is no longer your home property..to deny the right of search"

the brainwashing continues

3/1/2012 3:07:27 PM

Jesus Christ.

If you get pulled over, just give them your license, registration, and proof of insurance if requested. Don't answer any other questions, refuse the request of a search, take your ticket and be on your way.

Fuck all police.

3/1/2012 3:31:45 PM

Quote :

"Quote : " searches disproportionately on black citizens" how. fayetteville is like 94% black. unless you are in fortbragg or hope mills. "

Quote :

"An analysis of traffic stops over the past two years by The Fayetteville Observer showed that black drivers accounted for three out of every four searches."

If black drivers didn't also account for 3/4 of traffic stops it would be disproportionate. That, in and of itself isn't an issue, but if it was a substantial variance... say 50 of traffic stops were of black drivers then you could see why it might be viewed as possibly being racial profiling.

Sorry about the double post.

3/1/2012 3:40:10 PM

i swear even 90% of the cops there are black too

so the police force is racially profiling their own race? so lost on this one.

3/1/2012 4:26:06 PM

although the fayetteville PD was not allowed to ask to search your vehicle, they could radio the sheriff or highway patrol to do it if they wanted to

4th Amendment is a fun one

3/1/2012 4:28:22 PM

fayetteville is such a quaint family town. probably borderlines apex levels of peace and harmony.







lol

3/1/2012 4:31:03 PM

where did that come from

3/1/2012 4:32:49 PM

you mean they could radio another agency to intimidate you into giving up your rights. they're all about the law, until you use it to your advantage...then it's just 'red tape'

^level of sarcasm is directly porportional to lack of argument

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2012 4:34:23 PM

well, ya, that is kinda what i meant, kinda

3/1/2012 4:36:16 PM

-fayetteville is >75% black
-75% of car searches are black
-people are complaining about racial profiling.


sounds legit.

3/1/2012 4:38:23 PM

White persons, percent, 2010 (a) 45.7%
Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) 41.9%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37/3722920.html

now 75% of police stops might be black people, i have no desire to find that information though

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM. Reason : stops]

3/1/2012 5:03:58 PM

Whats the real issue here? The city council imposed a temporary ban on consent searches - they have/had zero authority to do so because it goes against state rulings.

3/1/2012 5:12:03 PM

not doubting you, but if you would link those rulings it would make your argument more convincing

3/1/2012 5:22:18 PM

http://www.fayobserver.com/fayobserver.com/files/33/33267f7f-5b60-417c-839c-4409624e3a3c.pdf


Consent searches are protected under state law (G.S. 15A-221); municipalities must be consistent with NC and US lawn (G.S.160A-174).

3/1/2012 5:41:51 PM

but certainly a municipality can direct its own police to curtail content searches, can it not?

3/1/2012 5:47:00 PM

Staley v. City of Winston-Salem ruled that a city cannot enact any law, ordinance, by-law or other act that prohibits or overrides State statutes.

Wilson v. Mooresville ruled that towns have no authority to restrict or enlarge the power of their police.

Also, the Police departments are a managed by a Chief who is under a city manager; a city manager in North Carolina does not have to answer to the city council.



[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM. Reason : ...]

3/1/2012 5:52:49 PM

thinks this makes any national headlines?

3/1/2012 5:55:00 PM

ep, more case law

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 5:57 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 5:56:50 PM

I ♥ crazy_carl's post; it stands to reason that as a Rethug, pack_bryan isn't exactly motivated by facts but rather by his base instincts.

3/1/2012 7:47:16 PM

sad that folks don't know their rights

3/1/2012 7:53:43 PM

When you use words like "Rethug", you sound almost--almost--as foolish as pack_bryan does.

3/1/2012 8:23:46 PM

Quote :

"Whats the real issue here? The city council imposed a temporary ban on consent searches - they have/had zero authority to do so because it goes against state rulings. "

When I first heard about this case, I thought (and still think) this is insane. A city in north carolina can not direct the city's own police force to be more restricted and reserved in their activities than the state allows. How is this at all logical? I can certainly see reason for not allowing cities to grant new powers to their police forces, but to restrict or take away their powers? By what logic does that make sense?

3/1/2012 8:25:16 PM

na, not getting into that

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM. Reason : nope]

3/1/2012 8:40:42 PM

Holy shit



Judge acquits militia members of sedition, conspiracy

Quote :

"DETROIT (Reuters) - A federal judge on Tuesday acquitted seven members of a U.S. Midwestern militia group of all major sedition and conspiracy charges against them, two years after the FBI began arresting them following a long undercover surveillance operation. The seven, members of a group known as the Hutaree, were accused of plotting to kill law enforcement officers as a way to incite a wider rebellion against the U.S. government. Defense attorneys had argued their actions were protected by their First Amendment free speech rights. In her ruling on Tuesday, U.S. District Court Judge Victoria A. Roberts agreed, acquitting the defendants on all counts related to sedition, conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction, training in the use of explosives and using firearms in the commission of a felony."

This is a HUGE win for the constitution!!

[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 9:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2012 9:09:31 PM

Nah, they'll just go back to the old tried and true method.

3/28/2012 9:31:58 PM

<3

3/28/2012 9:59:15 PM

Lol Hutaree makes the Branch Davidians look like Unitarian Pacifists. You can be glad their first amendment rights are protected but any love or approval for them as a group is severely misplaced.

3/29/2012 1:19:14 PM

All the more reason to burn their children alive.

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

3/29/2012 1:46:31 PM

Hrm yes, me saying this group of brainwashing American Taliban is a bad is essentially the same as agreeing with the handling of Waco. Yup. Got me pinned there.

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM. Reason : .]

3/29/2012 2:05:47 PM

Everything isn't an argument.

3/29/2012 2:49:53 PM

ahahaha at pack bryan saying fayettevill was >75% black

I guess when the facts don't match your racist worldview you have to make up new facts to fit it.

it must be a tough life.

3/30/2012 1:06:12 PM