BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
If Coach Tenuta got a thread to focus on his retention, Coach Lutz certainly deserves one too... Please stay and continue to be a standout recruiting scout and player coach for Gott! even though it is well known that you have the stock to be a HC somewhere else again
audio: http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2012/02/16/nc-state-assistant-coach-bobby-lutz-i-wanted-to-retire-a-49er/
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/02/20/1158690?sac=fo.sports 3/9/2012 10:50:12 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
3/9/2012 10:51:48 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Absolutely. Part of the reason Gott has done so well is because Lutz is on his staff.
Lord knows where our team would have been without him. 3/9/2012 10:54:38 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Super Scout! http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/02/20/1158690?sac=fo.sports
Quote : | "N.C. State assistant coach Bobby Lutz is the team's super scout BLOG:ACC Basketball by Bret Strelow
RALEIGH -- There's no consensus among college coaches about how to divide scouting responsibilities. N.C. State's Mark Gottfried has warmed to the idea of empowering one assistant and putting him in charge of communicating the information to players.
One coach. One voice.
Last month, inside the library that was a muted Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum, one high-pitched, raspy voice boomed from the visiting bench.
Possession after possession, Wolfpack assistant Bobby Lutz called out Wake Forest's plays, pointing to spots on the court where the Demon Deacons intended to go and yelling instructions for how to defend them.
N.C. State dismantled the Deacs that afternoon, a testament to the value of scouting. It's a labor of love for Lutz, whose knack for breaking down an opponent's strengths and weaknesses has endured through technological advances that dramatically change the way it's accomplished.
"So many games go down to one possession, two possessions," Lutz said. "Scouting is one of the many ways you hopefully win a game."
Technology changes N.C. State, coming off back-to-back losses, desperately needs a win. And Tuesday's opponent, North Carolina, hammered the Wolfpack last month.
The first game with UNC was four days away when N.C. State's players and coaches boarded a bus outside Miami's BankUnited Center following their victory in late January. Lutz immediately turned on his iPad and started reviewing a downloaded UNC game.
Times sure have changed.
Sliding in a DVD is outdated to some programs, and the era of trading cassette tapes is long gone. Lutz, 53, first scouted with paper and a pencil.
As a 15-year-old third base coach, assisting the nationally acclaimed Howard's Furniture men's softball team coached by his Hall of Fame father, Lutz charted pitches. It didn't matter if his N.C.-based team was playing at the time or not.
After games, he'd visit other fields and study the fiercest hitters from chief contenders. Lutz still remembers that Bruce Meade, a 6-foot-7 slugger for Jerry's Caterers out of Florida, had more trouble with low-and-outside offerings, a fact that put Howard's Furniture pitcher Buddy Slater at risk on up-the-middle line drives. The pitch needed to be up in the strike zone against Craig Elliott of Georgia-based Ken Sanders Ford.
"They were going to hit home runs most of the time, but if you can get one or two outs you wouldn't have normally gotten, that can be the difference in the game," Lutz said.
He has taken the same approach to coaching basketball.
As a graduate assistant at Clemson in the mid-1980s, Lutz traveled to watch future opponents play in person. He'd listen closely to a coach's audible play call, then watch film of the same sequence days later.
Lutz made similar trips after becoming Pfeiffer's head coach in 1986, jumping in his car after practice and driving to places like Laurinburg to catch a first-hand look at a conference foe.
"Not everybody in that league did that," Lutz said. "We were looking for any edge we could get."
Return to roots Lutz returned to his analytical roots last season.
After being fired as Charlotte's head coach, he joined Fred Hoiberg's staff at Iowa State and scouted every game for the Cyclones, preparing him well for the role he's adopted at N.C. State.
Before the Wolfpack hired Gottfried, he worked as an ESPN commentator, a job that gave him precious access to the meeting rooms and practice gyms of storied programs. Gottfried was a sponge, noting methods that could make him a better coach, and he liked the way Kentucky's John Calipari put assistant John Robic in charge of scouting.
N.C. State's other assistants contribute, but Lutz is the clear-cut face of that operation.
"Bobby does a great job communicating to our guys what we want to try to concentrate on," Gottfried said.
It's a process that runs smoothly thanks to tech-savvy staff members Levi Watkins and Nima Omidvar, who convinced Lutz that iPads are user-friendly, convenient scouting tools.
ACC schools use a server that features the television copy of every league game, often posted within an hour of the final buzzer sounding. Watkins and Omidvar can upload games onto a DVSport application that Lutz accesses easily while traveling, working out or even sitting in his parked car awaiting the start of a recruit's high school game.
Lutz likes to watch a game in its entirety, without interruption, before dissecting it. With some teams, he concerns himself more with personnel and the tendencies of particular players. For a team such as Georgia Tech, which has a wide variety of offensive sets, he'll note the reliance on ball screens and pass along effective ways to defend them.
"We know about everything, but we're not expecting our players to know everything," Lutz said. "We just try to condense it down. I used to say the Reader's Digest version, but I guess it's the Twitter version in today's world."
Following the plan Wake Forest visited Raleigh earlier this month for a rematch with the Wolfpack, and left-handed forward Nikita Mescheriakov opened the game by scoring on a driving layup.
Lutz was visibly frustrated.
"To start the game, to let him drive left, that bothers me," Lutz said. "That shouldn't happen."
N.C. State had prevented Wake from finding any offensive rhythm three weeks earlier in Winston-Salem, limiting the Demon Deacons to 29 points over the first 35 minutes. Shooting guard C.J. Harris managed only 10 points on 3-for-12 shooting because the Wolfpack defended him precisely the way Lutz wanted.
Instead of using ball screens set to his right, Harris often rejects the pick by design, dribbling left and shooting a step-back jumper. N.C. State defenders were told to stay at home, trust their help and not preoccupy themselves with fighting over the screen. That strategy led to a long afternoon for Harris.
Lutz did such a good job of scouting the Demon Deacons that their plays had different names when the Wolfpack faced Wake in Raleigh. Not surprisingly, Lutz recognized the sets and quickly communicated the changes to his players.
Harris fared better, scoring 21 points, but N.C. State claimed an 87-76 win.
Pregame preparation takes on added importance against teams with superior talent, and North Carolina's lineup is loaded with future pros. Attempting to even the playing field through thorough scouting is one of the most compelling challenges of Lutz's job.
"I love it," he said. "It's part of why I got into this, to teach and coach. It's all part of game prep, and it's fun to really be able to concentrate on that." " |
[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM. Reason : ]3/9/2012 10:57:56 AM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
retain this man at all costs
[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .] 3/9/2012 11:11:42 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you turn that down?!? Can somebody turn that radio down? It's bothering me." |
3/9/2012 11:29:25 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
3/9/2012 11:39:48 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Who coaches defense? 3/9/2012 12:47:45 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
this isn't the place 3/9/2012 12:50:34 PM |
ncsufanalum All American 579 Posts user info edit post |
I wanted us to hire Bobby Lutz as head coach when we replaced Herb. Imagine if that would of happened. As you can all imagine I was overjoyed after finding out we had been hired him as an assistant by Coach G. Really hope he sticks around, hes a real asset to NCSU. 3/9/2012 10:08:32 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I lol'ed 3/10/2012 12:38:00 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
dude needs to bring back the stache 3/10/2012 1:42:18 AM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
3/11/2012 3:57:50 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Used to go to church with this guy in Richfield, NC when he was coaching at Pfeiffer. 3/11/2012 4:47:09 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Let's not forget to give credit where credit is due. +11 credibility to Lutz as well.
[Edited on March 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ] 3/11/2012 6:56:34 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
I have always liked him as a coach and thus I am very happy to have him here. 3/11/2012 6:59:29 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I have to know when Calvin has 4 fouls. 3/11/2012 7:12:21 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Major bump for today. This man is behind every win we have this season. 3/18/2012 4:54:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
3/22/2012 8:43:42 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
We love you Bobby 3/28/2012 10:33:07 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
1 more year lutz! 3/28/2012 10:45:57 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
I think we get him for at least one more year.
I just love watching him during the games. He's so goddamn entertaining. 3/28/2012 10:55:29 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
So help me out. I have a friend that believes that Lutz is shady. He mentioned something about the recruitment of Michael Beasley as part of his reasoning. What is the skinny on this. I want to defend him but do not have all of the facts. 3/28/2012 11:00:33 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think we get him for at least one more year." |
concur, even though he has a good chance at upward mobility its hard to pick up and move on 2 years in a row3/28/2012 11:02:34 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^my friend, who attend unc-charlotte, told me all about that incident.... but i don't remember any of the details. he didn't seem to think it was lutz who was shady though, iirc. 3/28/2012 11:08:51 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
YOU STAY AWAY FROM HIM, KANSAS STATE! 3/28/2012 11:09:05 AM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
No way he moves his family twice in two years. 3/28/2012 11:43:04 AM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
For a mediocre offer, no I don't think he moves. For a killer offer, his family would get over it.
[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : PS, his family still lives in Charlotte, so they did not move with him apparently.] 3/28/2012 11:47:06 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
<3 4/3/2012 12:13:54 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Yea my boss used to run the lighting and sound for Horton Arena and has also mentioned several times that we better watch it because Bobby is shady and was known for recruiting violations down there. Said he saw several things over the 3 or 4 years he was working around there that he thought were against the rules, but said he was still a nice guy. 4/3/2012 8:54:26 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^heresay.
Ya gotta think he wants to stick around to be part of our final4 / NatChamp run. He would be in a waay better position to get a better coaching gig after one more year here than the opportunities he is currently listed for after this year...
If/when he does jump ship, is it gaudio time? 4/3/2012 8:59:00 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
PACK PRIDE TRANSFORMATION COMPLETE 4/3/2012 8:59:34 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, those lighting and sound guys always know the details of recruiting, they're typically part of the coaching inner-circle. 4/3/2012 9:00:06 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " is it gaudio time" |
Are you high?4/3/2012 9:04:09 AM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
^^Well no shit he's not inner sanctum. But like most of us here, I don't follow UNC-C basketball. He is no fan of any local teams (yankee) but a pretty big sports guy and knows a helluva lot more about Bobby's history in Charlotte than I do. Just corroborating what scotieb24 had said, that I know somebody else who has said Lutz is shady. 4/3/2012 9:07:22 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
i'll ask my unc-charlotte alumni buddy again about the beasely business and i'll report back 4/3/2012 9:20:49 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I'll ask my UNCC sports fanatic officemate when he gets back in here 4/3/2012 9:37:08 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNCC sports fanatic" |
Did I read that right?4/3/2012 10:18:08 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
they're gonna have a football team in 2013! 4/3/2012 10:32:24 AM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Are they going to play against high schools the first year? So they can get practice? I bet they could even take the high school State Championship if they try hard enough. 4/3/2012 10:38:47 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
yes
he updated me on how their soccer team got to the final four and the disparity of calls in their final match that they lost
he is some kind of financially contributing, card-carrying member to their football program with priority seating
and of course follows basketball
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According to him, the Beasley situation doesn't make Bobby Lutz shady at all. Let me tell you the story (from his memory):
It all boils down to Delante Hill. Delante Hill played for Lutz back in the day and was Beasley's AAU coach - the two were very tight together. Hill got hired at UNCC and so Beasley committed to UNCC at 15 years old, and stayed committed throughout high school. All of the pieces started falling into place at UNCC and the program peaked.
Bob Huggins (Thuggy Bear, apparently), the coach at the UNCC arch rival Cincinnatti, was fired. He was then hired at Kansas State. He beat out UNCC and hired Delante Hill to his staff for $500k, effectively doubling his salary. Beasley immediately decommitted from UNCC and committed to KState.
Bobby Lutz took the high road and commented that this was just how college ball worked, but the damage was done. UNCC basketball began a drastic decline and Lutz was eventually fired. KState, meanwhile, became somewhat relevant nationally (his eyes glaze over and says "that could have been us...") while UNCC, well, became UNCC.
So there's still bad blood between UNCC and Cincinnatti/Huggins/KState. He says you shouldn't talk about Beasley with a 49ers fan...you could say its the "Personal Fouls" of UNCC.
He also mentions that he thinks Lutz will stay since there is still another year on the buyout (I thought it was done, but w/e) and because he may have a kid at NC State on the soccer team. He recruited Tyler Lewis at UNCC pretty hard so that's another good connection.
He mentions that UNCC has a player off of Lewis's team too, Darrion Clark - PF.
[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM. Reason : ^don't get him started on the football program, he's super excited about it ] 4/3/2012 10:49:07 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^to follow-up on that, this is what i got:
Quote : | "Lutz was never shady about anything that i was aware of. Seeing how he didnt land a high profile recruit in his last 5 or 6 seasons I dont know what kind of shady shit he could have been doing. The Beasley thing was that his "handler" Delonte Hill was hired when Beasley was a Jr. in hs. We basically hired Hill to get Beasley, however Hill did play for us in 98-00'. Bob Huggins conspired with Hill and stole him away from us when he got the HC job at KSU, thus stealing Beasley. Hill informed Lutz after the fact via Text! Then Huggins took the job at WVU before he ever coached a game, hence Frank Martin became the hc and Hill became the highest payed assistant in college basketball. He makes like 800k a year or something ridiculous like that." |
[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM. Reason : ^also, lutz coached lewis's brother at Charlotte]4/3/2012 12:21:37 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
i appreciate lutz! 4/3/2012 12:29:03 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
pls 2 not go 4/3/2012 12:45:52 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for the info guys. I think the part my buddy must have been trying to go with was
Quote : | "We basically hired Hill to get Beasley" |
4/3/2012 1:11:54 PM |
kmrodden All American 1259 Posts user info edit post |
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I've always thought a lot about Coach Lutz. Went to a lot of UNCC bball games in high school and he definitely was a heck of a coach. Even if he doesn't stick around 2 or 3 more years I think his work ethic and the way he dissects offensive sets can be passed down to some of our younger assistants.
Don't forget Coach Early was at UNCC also.
Dalonte Hill is back in DC recruiting for Maryland. 4/4/2012 8:38:01 AM |
TJB627 All American 2110 Posts user info edit post |
I spotted Coach Lutz Sunday afternoon as I was driving through North Hills. I wish I had rolled down my window and yelled thank you or something. With him being from NC and his daughter going to NCSU and all, I hope he'll stick around for a while. 4/4/2012 4:25:09 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
saw on PP that his father passed away... 4/11/2012 1:14:28 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
This is not a good week for the Dad's of NC State coaches. 4/11/2012 1:21:05 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
thoughts and prayers thugs and playas 4/11/2012 6:02:48 PM |