Yep the she-beast now gets a hefty salary of $2000 in Foodstamps per month to feed her litter of 14 children.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/showbiz/2012/04/03/sbt-octomom-on-welfare.cnn

4/3/2012 10:00:45 AM

but she's an oppressed minority that didn't chose to have 14 kids and can't afford any form of birth control and has the right to have children!

oh wait.

4/3/2012 10:24:39 AM

let's time travel back and make her not have the kids

or we can let them die i guess

i mean, those are the options essentially

[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 10:47 AM. Reason : actually they should take the kids away from her, srsly]

4/3/2012 10:46:34 AM

Woulda been way more cost effective to just pay for a psychiatrist starting in 1997

4/3/2012 10:55:52 AM

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"let's time travel back and make her not have the kids or we can let them die i guess i mean, those are the options essentially "

Option C: Have teh state take the kids and put the Octumom in a mental asylum.

4/3/2012 12:49:19 PM

actually that is what i advocated in the edit, moran

4/3/2012 1:40:35 PM

^^^&^^&^yes

[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 2:42 PM. Reason : A]

4/3/2012 2:41:38 PM

^^^ That option would actually cost more.

The state pays foster families more money in welfare than they do biological parents.

[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM. Reason : But yeah this lady is fucking scum.]

4/3/2012 3:04:08 PM

Foster parents get welfare?

At the least foster parents would provide teh children with some good parenting and discipline. I can only imagine the zoo that the Octomom currently runs. What's going to happen when the kids are all teenagers.

[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM. Reason : a]

4/3/2012 3:30:45 PM

So now you're concerned with the welfare of the children and not how much it costs the state to take care of them?

4/3/2012 3:33:16 PM

They should be sent to live with Ron Paul. He will shape them to be not mortals, but Gods of Freedom.

4/3/2012 6:02:06 PM

Ron Paul is against free hand-out. He believes people should suffer the consequences of their own actions.

4/3/2012 8:52:51 PM

And that their children suffer as well.

4/3/2012 8:55:57 PM

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"He believes people should suffer the consequences of their own actions."

Cry to the mom.

4/3/2012 8:57:38 PM

Hey, if you can live with that... fine, your choice. You should just realize that the children may not live with that.

4/3/2012 9:02:17 PM

*argues against state supported financial assistance*

*argues for state control of children*

*doesn't see hypocrisy*

4/3/2012 9:05:35 PM

Yeah I ripped HUR a third butthole on that one.

4/3/2012 9:06:52 PM

oh no you got me

4/3/2012 9:18:51 PM

You have still yet to explain your blatant hypocrisy.

4/3/2012 9:20:15 PM

There is a difference between not wanting to watch the kids starve to death and condoning the OctoBeast for having an 8 litter brood out of wed-lock, while already living on public assistance, and having to care for 6 older children.

I do not know about you but i do not enjoy going to work all day in order to pay my 13% effective federal tax rate to subsidize mass breeding by the OctoBeast.

[Edited on April 3, 2012 at 11:12 PM. Reason : l]

4/3/2012 11:10:32 PM

I wish my effective federal tax rate was only 13%, you worthless piece of shit freeloader.

4/3/2012 11:25:15 PM

i fucking HATE news links that go to a fucking video instead of an article i can read. Videos should be a supplement to the written word for online news sources.

4/3/2012 11:55:13 PM

^^ wait wut?

4/4/2012 8:38:35 AM

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"There is a difference between not wanting to watch the kids starve to death and condoning the OctoBeast for having an 8 litter brood out of wed-lock, while already living on public assistance, and having to care for 6 older children."

Backpedal.

4/4/2012 8:48:12 AM

My OP still stands, troll

4/4/2012 9:17:42 AM

What OP are you talking about? You went straight from a statement of fact peppered with your misogynistic and racist presumptions in your OP to having the state take the children away. I then stated that this was a more expensive option than giving Octomom welfare. You then expressed your concern for the children contradicting your original position of crying about paying taxes. Then I asked you to clarify your position and you never posted anything. When I called out the fact that you had abandoned the thread after losing the argument, you came back in with a tone of mock concern. Again I asked you to explain your contradiction. You backpedaled, I called you out again, and you came back with some bogus assertion that you actually had some sort of opinion in the OP in addition to an ad hominem attack. And now I'm calling you out on that.

Let me explain what's going to happen next. You're going to get defensive. I'm going to call you out on that. You will then resort to another ad hominem attack. I will respond in kind. You will call me a hypocrite. I won't care and will tell you to explain how I'm wrong. When you never respond I post 2 days later calling you a bitch for not responding and give you an ultimatum to prove me wrong. So let's just skip ahead to that.

Prove to me how you have previously declared an uncontradictory position in this thread. And stating that she never should have had so many kids is not acceptable. We all already know that and no one refutes it. I fucking dare you to respond.

4/4/2012 12:51:56 PM

Quote :

"racist presumptions"

Racist presumption? Are you just a troll, a fool, or an idiot. What is racist about my discussion? Natya is an iraqi-american. I do not think any part of my post had any derogatory comments regarding middle easterners. Nice try, try again.

My OP was an attack on the Octomom not on our welfare system so please explain what is contradictory about my OP versus my follow up comments.

4/4/2012 1:01:52 PM

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"Racist presumption? Are you just a troll, a fool, or an idiot. What is racist about my discussion? Natya is an iraqi-american. I do not think any part of my post had any derogatory comments regarding middle easterners. Nice try, try again. My OP was an attack on the Octomom not on our welfare system so please explain what is contradictory about my OP versus my follow up comments."

So I guess you want to play this one out even though you're trumped, huh? Alright...

Ok so this is quite obviously your defensive post. You still have yet to clarify any kind of thoughtful or rational opinion besides bitching about paying taxes for this, which everyone is agreement with you on. Now... please carry on with your ad hom attack.

4/4/2012 1:06:01 PM

you're gay

4/4/2012 1:24:19 PM

The issue is incentives. Giving money to poor people is prone to abuse as poor people either opt to appear poor or actually remain poor in order to maintain the benefits. Taking the children away is a more costly means of making sure children avoid suffering, but it doesn't suffer the same risk of abuse and perverse incentives for the poor.

4/4/2012 5:47:22 PM

Why don't we hear this much about tax incentives for the rich? Isn't that prone to abuse?

4/4/2012 6:50:44 PM

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"Why don't we hear this much about tax incentives for the rich? Isn't that prone to abuse?"

The rich control the media.

4/4/2012 8:32:02 PM

^^ Odd, it sounds to me like that is usually what we hear about. This thread on TWW is the only place I know that is discussing foodstamps. Meanwhile, my RSS feed had several places discussing taxation of the rich and tax incentives in general.

4/5/2012 12:17:20 AM

Yes, I am sure that is a constant narrative on conservative news networks.

4/5/2012 12:35:39 AM

makes solo porn

and will now perform at a strip club in FL

see updates and pics here

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6/6/2012 7:34:33 AM

I've always been against these arab honor killings, but in this case, I'd support it.

6/6/2012 8:49:47 AM

That's not a lot of money by any stretch for 14 kids.

This woman is a hero for doing the right thing and making the tough choice to raise more children at a time when the us birth rate is slowing. We can't let the Asians take over the world without a fight.

6/6/2012 8:56:58 AM

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"Let me explain what's going to happen next. You're going to get defensive. "

Quote :

"Racist presumption? Are you just a troll, a fool, or an idiot. "

But seriously, to be fair, this:

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"My OP was an attack on the Octomom not on our welfare system so please explain what is contradictory about my OP versus my follow up comments."

Was already satisfied. The purported contradiction was the children should be left to starve, that she's draining tax dollars, that they should be taken away from her, and that they should not be taken away from her because it would cost too much tax money.

To criticize IMStoned420 for a second, there's really no way to respond to what he's asked for. Obviously HUR doesn't hold all of his expressed positions mutually, so the best you could hope for would be for him to pick out a particular one he said and say that he doesn't hold that. Then again, that function would be sufficiently satisfied by finding his last expressed position and rejecting those that precede it and contradict it. So there's really no 'right' way to respond to the challenge.

6/6/2012 9:04:01 AM

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"Racist presumption? Are you just a troll, a fool, or an idiot. What is racist about my discussion? Natya is an iraqi-american. I do not think any part of my post had any derogatory comments regarding middle easterners. Nice try, try again."

You referred to her family as a "brood"

Just because you didn't use ethnicity-specific derogatory language doesn't mean you're not being weirdly dehumanizing of her, akin to referring to Asians or Mexicans as "hordes" or "swarms"

[Edited on June 6, 2012 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2012 1:30:18 PM

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"This woman is a hero for doing the right thing and making the tough choice to raise more children at a time when the us birth rate is slowing. We can't let the Asians take over the world without a fight."

yeah, i'm sure this upstanding young lady is going to great job of raising a bunch of fine, upstanding citizens.

6/6/2012 1:42:29 PM

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"and will now perform at a strip club in FL"

that was canceled but the porn is still on

6/6/2012 1:59:09 PM

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"Just because you didn't use ethnicity-specific derogatory language doesn't mean you're not being weirdly dehumanizing of her, akin to referring to Asians or Mexicans as "hordes" or "swarms""

I will reserve the right to use the word "swarms" in reference to Koreans.

Particularly when the conversation pertains to Starcraft.

6/6/2012 2:03:53 PM

Quote :

"To criticize IMStoned420 for a second, there's really no way to respond to what he's asked for. Obviously HUR doesn't hold all of his expressed positions mutually, so the best you could hope for would be for him to pick out a particular one he said and say that he doesn't hold that. Then again, that function would be sufficiently satisfied by finding his last expressed position and rejecting those that precede it and contradict it. So there's really no 'right' way to respond to the challenge."

That was my whole point. To call out his stupidity and contradiction.

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"I will reserve the right to use the word "swarms" in reference to Koreans. Particularly when the conversation pertains to Starcraft."

I'll allow it.

6/6/2012 7:27:00 PM

let them die.

solve welfare and carrying capacity problems at the same time.

dry the corpses and burn them as fossil fuel.

3 problems solved.

6/6/2012 8:31:27 PM

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"They should be sent to live with Ron Paul. "

They should be sent to live with Elian Gonzalez's family in Cuba.

[Edited on June 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM. Reason : Yuck, Soapbox]

6/7/2012 12:30:11 AM

I love how conservatives are for personal freedoms until it's someone doing something they don't want.

Then they're all for forced sterilization and lettings kids die and whatever the fuck else.

Dat shit cray.

6/7/2012 12:43:31 AM

^so you are saying that conservatives are all for personal freedoms, but then oppose to having their personal freedoms violated by being FORCED to pay for others mistakes?

Great point.

6/7/2012 8:59:42 AM

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"That was my whole point. To call out his stupidity and contradiction."

I laughed at that pretty hard.

"No fair! When you point out my contradictory positions, you force me to choose one or the other!"

6/7/2012 1:55:53 PM

^^ "I'd rather let children starve to death than be taxed an extra few cents on my income! "

6/7/2012 3:06:40 PM

Quote :

"“‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. " - Ezekiel 16:49 "

It seems pudgy conservatives on their rascal scooters are a bit off the mark when they talk about which Sodomites will burn in hell...

6/7/2012 3:12:20 PM