For having a tantrum in the principal's office.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/17/justice/georgia-student-handcuffed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Sounds like an argument for brining back corporal punishment. The principal should have the right to give this little snot a few whacks in the behind. Since obviously she is not receiving any discipline in the home.


What kind of name is

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"Salecia"

anyway?

[Edited on April 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM. Reason : d]

4/17/2012 5:07:07 PM

Old argument that you're not going to win in this or any other administration. (except ron paul)

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4/17/2012 5:15:22 PM

Yes, because teaching children that violence and losing your temper is a proper way to act is a good thing.

Also there's nothing oddly sexual about an older man swatting the behinds of younger children.

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4/17/2012 5:17:32 PM

Unfortunately if the kid was restrained in any other way or touched by a school admin they'd get sued into the ground.

4/17/2012 5:23:43 PM

the girl turned over a bookshelf that landed on the principal .... what did they expect the school to do that doesn't turn into a lawsuit.

4/17/2012 6:07:48 PM

I guess I am not arguing against the arrest. This thread is more to show the sorry state of affairs of parenting in this country and the lawsuit state we have turned into that the arrest was the only kind of restraint the school could instill without getting sued.

4/17/2012 6:29:39 PM

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"I blame this on bush and the "no child left behind"."

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"Another "Obama" failure, he should know better to teach his people to have respect for their betters."

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"I'm thinking this is the white man's fault. Call Jessie, call Al, how dare these police prevent a black child from exercising her right to act black."

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"Did anyone stop and think that the Land of Aunt Jemimah hasn''t changed much in the last 200 years?"

4/17/2012 6:43:55 PM

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"I guess I am not arguing against the arrest. This thread is more to show the sorry state of affairs of parenting in this country and the lawsuit state we have turned into that the arrest was the only kind of restraint the school could instill without getting sued."

The rarity of this kind of action speaks to me instead of the relatively fine state of affairs of parenting in this country. Every generation of old people complains that the next generation are terrible parents. This shit has been going on for thousands of years.

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"Yes, because teaching children that violence and losing your temper is a proper way to act is a good thing."

This this so much this.

The police restraining her and ultimately releasing her to the police is the right action. Her parents paying for the damages is the right action. Unfortunately I doubt the parents use this as an example of shame, given their comments already. I doubt the girl learns anything useful about this and is pretty much fucked.

4/17/2012 8:08:48 PM

Pain is a natural element in life that is undesirable to normal people.

Using corporal punishment appropriately is a good way to deter bad behavior by associating a bad deed with pain. Pain = bad, Pleasure = good.

The problem lies in parents that go overboard or use corporal punishment incorrectly.

of course, we have deeper problems in society because now most girl and guys ASK for punishment as a form of pleasure. While it's none of my business what other people do to their own bodies, I have girls asking for me to choke them and spank them during intercourse. Of course, we see this behavior in mostly all porno, too. Other instances of Pain = Pleasure are tattoos and piercings.

Since pain is a part of life and spanking is painful, it usually doesn't kill the kid to receive a few asswhoopings.

Of course, each case would have to be looked at with scrutiny but there has to be some sort of tolerance. If suzy came into school with black eyes regularly or belt marks across her back or whatever, it's clear that crosses the line. Most spankings require a light tap to get the message across.

4/17/2012 9:04:59 PM

I'm terribly not surprised you'd think that way and distrust child psychologists and pediatricians.

4/17/2012 10:05:07 PM

The difference between me and you stu?

I think for myself.

4/17/2012 10:17:57 PM

Children are just like rats.

Instead of teaching them why a behavior is wrong, we just administer a small shock so they associate the behavior with pain, this getting the same result.

4/17/2012 11:06:11 PM

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"The difference between me and you stu? I think for myself."

Sweet, you've have a degree in every field and have published papers that withstood peer review in every field?

Maybe, just maybe, you should listen to what the experts have to say. I'm not saying blindly trust them, but look at the data, their conclusions, and if you're not an expert, defer to a degree to their expertise.

The difference between me and you is that I'm not paranoid and I acknowledge that I'm not an expert in every field. The scientific method works. Take all that thinking you do for yourself and actually reflect on your conclusions compared to the scientific consensus. Why are your conclusions so radically different? Is it likely that your layperson common sense is more likely to be true than the opinion American Academy of Pediatrics? If it's not likely, wouldn't that then require you to spend a little more time proving to yourself that your position is true?

Nope, instead you just assert that you're right, and that you're thinking for yourself just because you take the divergent position. Quite the skeptic rebel you are.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin14.htm

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"of course, we have deeper problems in society because now most girl and guys ASK for punishment as a form of pleasure. While it's none of my business what other people do to their own bodies, I have girls asking for me to choke them and spank them during intercourse. Of course, we see this behavior in mostly all porno, too. Other instances of Pain = Pleasure are tattoos and piercings."

Did you seriously suggest that the existence of sexual masochists justifies corporal punishment? I just don't even....I feel sorry for your children if you or should you have any.

4/17/2012 11:26:03 PM

I've studied "professionals" long enough to know there are two kinds of professionals.

1) Professionals you can trust
2) Professionals you can't trust

There are professionals on both sides of every issue. Who can you trust?

You assume #2 until #1 is proven.

I've never met or put to test any of these so called "professionals" you claim are "professionals" to the test. You tell me not to blindly follow them, but at the same time you're telling me to blindly follow them.

"Look at the data" you say. Look at straw polls. That shit doesn't mean anything unless you know the context.

There is nothing wrong with questioning professionals.

You have professionals on the news all day long saying Mitt Romney is the winner of the primary and the shit is only half way over, you have professionals telling us there's WMD in Iraq, you have professionals telling us that gay people can't get married.

How dare you try to get me to be complacent and listen to people who I have no trust or history with. I've been fooled by professionals, and never again will I be that naive.

If you want to be naive, that's your choice. I will NEVER ever stop asking questions especially when the professional opinions conflict with reality.

4/17/2012 11:51:19 PM

Paranoia. Pure and simple. I told you to trust the method, not the experts but you're so ready to distrust the official story you couldn't even see that. We're past the point of rational discourse here.

4/18/2012 12:48:42 AM

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"Paranoia. Pure and simple. I told you to trust the method, not the experts but you're so ready to distrust the official story you couldn't even see that. We're past the point of rational discourse here."

My method is based on Mathematics.
Your method is based on Trust.

I see a clear winner here.

4/18/2012 11:20:32 AM

DEGREES AND EXPERIENCE MEAN NOTHING!

4/18/2012 4:22:04 PM