Made the mistake yesterday of test driving one of these. Wife really would prefer an E350 but even driving the E550 it was just not the same. Think I will have to keep my Camry for a DD and get the C63. Unreal how much fun that car is. Anyone else have one or driven one?

5/13/2012 7:05:06 PM

Driven a few, they're cool. I can't imagine somebody having a Camry and a C63.. The C63 is the very definition of a daily driver, get that, get rid of the Camry ->win.

5/13/2012 7:15:08 PM

Well I figured the way I drive it I will be getting 9 MPG. So having my 30MPG Camry on the 20 mile commute would be good and then take the Benz on Fridays and out for fun on weekend.

I won't get a lot for the Camry its an 08 so probably 10K at most.

5/13/2012 7:18:59 PM

if you have half a brain you'll drive it and get >9mpg.

5/13/2012 8:50:39 PM

IT MUST BE BLACK

[Edited on May 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM. Reason : b]

5/13/2012 10:04:02 PM

^^ I was getting about 9mpg when I was driving it this weekend. I get that I probably won't floor it all the time but at 13mpg listed for city I don't think its 2 far off.

5/13/2012 10:41:38 PM

What in the hell? A C63 AMG is right up there with the BMW M3 as the ultimate daily driver machines ever produced. Unless you have a very long commute, you won't save enough gas money by DDing the Camry to offset the cost of keeping the extra car, let alone the downside of having to drive a fucking Camry every day while the AMG sits unused...

...and if (like me) you do fall into that fairly unusual category where it makes sense to have an uber-boring, efficient car to DD, plus something badass to keep as a toy, then I submit that a C63 AMG is a poor choice for that, on the grounds that it's too compromised and not nearly focused enough on performance and driving enjoyment. If you want something just as a toy, you can get something that is either a much better toy, or much less expensive, or really, both. The whole point of the C63 AMG is to have a car that is not the best at anything, but pretty damned awesome at everything--for a price. It makes no sense to have a specialist DD and a generalist toy. You either ante up for a great generalist car and have it do everything, as that's its entire raison d'etre, or you ante up for 2 cars, both of which are specialists at what they do.

(or you're just indifferent to cars and drive one modestly priced appliance car, because you don't give a fuck about anything other than cost-effective, reliable transportation to begin with).

5/13/2012 11:11:58 PM

what duke and ahmet said.

5/14/2012 12:16:59 AM

friend gave me a ride in his... damn, that thing is fucking awesome.

sounded like a lambo when downshifting! even threw out flames, at least that's what it sounded like.

5/14/2012 5:02:56 AM

Fuck the haters Russ. That car's a blast, and almost every comparison I've seen between it and the M3 says the C63 is more fun anywhere except a race track. And the AMG has an intoxicating exhaust note. The gas mileage issue kinda sucks, but whatever. Get it and enjoy!

5/14/2012 8:16:22 AM

i've said it time and time again.... i would drive an _63 mercedes IF THEY CAME WITH A REAL MANUAL TRANSMISSION

5/14/2012 8:19:10 AM

exactly the reason mercedes is not on my radar.

5/14/2012 8:52:37 AM

concur. awesome car, but needs a 3rd pedal.

5/14/2012 10:43:48 AM

satisfy your wife and yourself == get an e63

5/14/2012 12:16:58 PM

^^ yep, or at least a dual-clutch box

^^^^

Nobody's hating--we're just saying it's nonsensical to have a DD Camry and a C63 AMG as a weekend toy.

5/14/2012 12:55:01 PM

not if you're looking at it from a cost point of view.

I use my Integra to DD a lot because its value has bottomed out. It really can't get any lower, and it gets better gas mileage then the S2000. Is it foolish of me because they're both semi practical cars?

5/14/2012 1:07:15 PM

there is a bit of difference between an 08 camry DD and an early 90s integra DD. furthermore, a c63 is significantly more practical than both an s2000 and integra. it's an apples to oranges comparison.

5/14/2012 1:13:07 PM

there's no practicality in an s2000, no storage space, no passenger space, not quiet, bad gas mileage. the c63 has almost none of these disadvantages besides poor mileage. however, if you can afford a c63 as a play thing, you can afford the gas to drive it daily. sell the camry if you get the c63... unless you really want to look cool on your saturday errand run to target, and no other time, then the plan seems ok.

5/14/2012 2:15:44 PM

My friend who gave me a ride in his C63 (student, actually), said he tested the M3 before buying, and the M3 definitely had better performance, but he said the C63 was more fun, and the main reason he picked the C63 over the M3 is the orgasmic exhaust and engine note.

5/14/2012 2:52:42 PM

^^driving the C63 a lot will lead to high depreciation costs. Piling mileage onto the Camry will do less so. Maintenance costs are also considerably less for the Camry. These are not minor details.

^Not in a straight line though.

5/14/2012 3:03:21 PM

^ true (duh), true (duh)

5/14/2012 3:11:31 PM

Quote :

"the main reason he picked the C63 over the M3 is the orgasmic exhaust and engine note."

that's impressive given how good the e9x m3 sounds.

5/14/2012 3:12:06 PM

forget that. buy this for half the price and put the other half for maintenance

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Mercedes-S65-AMG-w-Four-Place-Dynamic-Sts-Nav-PDC-Keyless-Go-/370612766171?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item564a3e05db

[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 3:37 PM. Reason : f]

5/14/2012 3:34:16 PM

^ WIN!

i think they get decent milage too.

5/14/2012 3:51:58 PM

13/19 for a car that weighs 5081lb, same exact mileage as E93 M3.

738ft.lb. 20sec 0-150mph. better braking than SLR.

I think kleeman ecu update alone is like 900+ ft.lb.

5/14/2012 4:09:25 PM

Nothing in the AMG lineup, save maybe the gullwing, is a good dedicated toy. That's what vettes, vipers, porsches, and stuff like S2000s are for.

5/14/2012 10:59:42 PM

I don't know how you guys do this "daily driver" thing, using fuel economy/depreciation, etc. to justify an additional vehicle that is (typically) a terrible car.

If you just can't handle daily driving a car that's too nice, or too expensive or whatever, just get one that you can. I'd much rather have something like a chipped 335i as my only car instead of a C63 and a Camry. I've had multiple cars before, cars that one could argue complimented each other, like a WRX Wagon and a modified C5 Corvette/911, but I just ended up driving my favorite car all the time instead. Maybe you guys have better self control than I do, but life is too short to worry about keeping a "fun" car for the weekend and making do in a craptastic beater. I will never understand Duke's Prius + C5 z06 dreams, nor TKE's ability to put up w/a shitbox integra so he can drive his *slightly* torquier S2000 -do I have that backwards? I kid. Well sort of...

5/14/2012 11:43:02 PM

ITT, we see that everyone should all be like Ahmet?

5/15/2012 7:21:28 AM

lol.... one way or the otha brotha.

To be flat out honest with you... where i'm at with my car i find myself driving way above the posted limit to have fun with it anymore.

That's one of the reason's i like the wife's 6 speed kia soul... you can feel like you're driving fast without actually driving fast.

Ultimately my feeling is... drive what makes you happy... justify the cost however you'd like.

I will tell you this.. on a rainy day i wouldn't trade my AWD for shit... it's fun fucking with cars that would be fast had they had traction.

5/15/2012 8:06:07 AM

Quote :

"I will never understand Duke's Prius + C5 z06 dreams, nor TKE's ability to put up w/a shitbox integra so he can drive his *slightly* torquier S2000 -do I have that backwards? I kid. Well sort of..."

lol. The Integra makes the S2000 look like a torque monster . In all seriousness, the Integra is fun to drive day to day. It's very tossable and I can redline the first 3 gears at 8,000 rpm without breaking any traffic laws...much Didn't you enjoy that old VW GTI you had for a bit?

If I'm driving to and from work on I-40 what difference in driving enjoyment is there between the Integra and S2000? Very little. So some days (probably 2 in 5) I'll drive the Integra instead and enjoy 25% better fuel efficiency and no mileage depreciation

5/15/2012 8:17:57 AM

dude how many miles do you have on that integra now?

5/15/2012 9:52:55 AM

292,918 as of this morning

5/15/2012 9:54:50 AM

Quote :

"I will never understand Duke's Prius + C5 z06 dreams"

I don't want a Prius/TDI + C5-Z. I want a Prius/TDI + a Seven/Cobra replica/other dedicated weekend toy/track car.

I did the math; with the 70-mile daily work commute I now have, a used Prius/TDI would pay for itself just in fuel if I drove it to work (PLUS I have a friend who lives a few miles away who will sell me biodiesel for $2/gallon, which would make my fuel costs almost negligible).

It would never make sense with a normal commute--like I said, the savings wouldn't be worth it. Between my long commute, and recently getting awarded half-custody of my daughter (and kinda needing something with a backseat), it makes sense for my circumstances.

5/15/2012 10:09:06 AM

Thanks for all the great advice. I think I am going to drive a few more cars and/or maybe put a few more miles on the Camry if I do think about trading it in. The maintenance and depreciation costs of the camry will be very low for the next year so may look at doing that and saving more for the fun car if I am going to trade it in.


I still may end up going with both. It has been wrecked a couple times (rear ended and hit a deer) so not expecting to get a lot for it.

I also want to drive the cts v . I have driven the M3 and agree that its very tight and would be awesome on a track. I still felt the C63 was more fun for me.

5/15/2012 8:31:24 PM

despite the haters, I'd keep the camry if it's paid off

5/15/2012 8:42:11 PM

despite the haters, I'd keep the camry if it's paid off

5/15/2012 8:44:25 PM

LOL. Guy at work has a C63 that he only drives on the weekend but a brand new Kia Optima (the Turbo model) for his DD.


Makes no fucking sense that he has spend 100+K on 2 cars within 2 years. He has like a 8, maybe 10 mile, commute to work.

It would have made so much more sense for him to just pick one, or just get a used lower end BMW/Mercedes and used that for a DD that's still very very fun. That, or take the money he spent on a C63 and get an actual sports car, and not a compromise (though a very good compromise).

5/15/2012 9:50:29 PM

Quote :

"I also want to drive the cts v . I have driven the M3 and agree that its very tight and would be awesome on a track. I still felt the C63 was more fun for me."

All the things said about C63 AMG apply to CTS-V, too.

What we're saying is to either get ditch the Camry and get the C63 AMG, or:

Quote :

"take the money...[for] a C63 and get an actual sports car, and not a compromise (though a very good compromise)."

5/15/2012 10:03:31 PM

i'd really love a cts-v wagon 6 speed...
yep... i sureeeeee would...

5/16/2012 6:42:09 AM

Quote :

"LOL. Guy at work has a C63 that he only drives on the weekend but a brand new Kia Optima (the Turbo model) for his DD. Makes no fucking sense that he has spend 100+K on 2 cars within 2 years. He has like a 8, maybe 10 mile, commute to work."

See now...I don't see any sense in this set up at all.

5/16/2012 9:10:55 AM

^Yeah that's just odd. I love the turbo Optima, but why would you get one if you have a C63? And, for that matter, if your round-trip work commute is > 20 miles, why bother with a DD in the first place? Unless you're super gung-ho nuts about keeping the miles on the C63 low low low. And in that case get something cheaper. Or that gets >40 MPG. Or used. Or...

5/17/2012 1:02:06 PM

http://tinyurl.com/7y49eb8

Grandma burnout and 11 second pass in a C63 AMG!

I'm admittedly skeptical as to whether she was driving or it was staged. Either way, it's worth a watch just to hear that exhaust. Action starts at 1:15.

[Edited on May 17, 2012 at 4:48 PM. Reason : l]

5/17/2012 4:47:48 PM

My old GTI is a bad example. I looked for one of those because I wanted to drive one for a few weeks, it wasn't to save money and it certainly wasn't to keep me "fancy car" nice and clean. Please I drive my cars across country and spend so much time sideways in them the paint around the rear bumper gets sandblasted.

5/18/2012 9:05:40 PM

Quote :

"that's impressive given how good the e9x m3 sounds."

i have heard them both in front of me, and from inside at high speeds, and high acceleration and deceleration. i thought the m3 sounded great, but a few months later i heard the c63, and i was just blown away... as i said, sounded like a lambo gallardo when downshifting. no comparison at all in terms of sound, looks, and straight-line performance. yes, on a track, and in terms of the transmission, m3 is better, but not by much.

5/19/2012 9:08:11 AM

i will give the c63 that... it does sound amazing.

5/19/2012 6:15:32 PM

Damn that C63 sounded badass in that video clip, lol. Wowzers

5/20/2012 10:48:59 PM

Quote :

"Edo Competition squeezes 600 HP into Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Estate If you need to haul some stuff in a big hurry, you could do a lot worse than the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Estate wagon. It offers all the power of its coupe and sedan siblings, only with the added cargo space that so many European customers prefer over the betrunked versions. But if the stock 457 horsepower isn't enough, the good folks over at Edo Competition are glad to help out with an upgrade of their own. That upgrade, it turns out, is anything but negligible, pumping output up by nearly 150 horsepower to a stonking 600. Torque has also been boosted from 442 lb-ft stock to 501, where that extra single measure of twist makes all the difference. The boost comes courtesy of new exhaust, headers, cats and filters, supplemented by 19-inch modular alloys riding on suitably low-profile Michelin rubber, with a slew of interior enhancements to make the Edo C63 feel all the more special."

The impressive part to me is that a new exhaust system and filters (and assuming a tune) are all you need to bump this engine up 150 hp.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/19/edo-competition-squeezes-600-horsepower-into-the-mercedes-benz-c/

Here's a link to a video from inside an Edo C63. The camera work is shitty but the sound glorious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFiECtWqBA

[Edited on May 21, 2012 at 12:52 PM. Reason : k]

5/21/2012 12:46:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaZExdTHHjY

Here. K, thx, bye.

5/24/2012 9:05:27 AM

lol yes your car is one of the best balanced there are.

wait... does this mean the new boss 302 beats the c63 amg?

interesting... Wish it wasn't a ronny mobile.

5/24/2012 12:54:43 PM

I didn't even really post it to flaunt. Just saying, I don't see much point in the C63. Might as well just get a Z06.

5/24/2012 1:06:00 PM