In the spirit of the recent weight lifting threads.......

So there was the old study by consumer reports back in 2010 stating that EAS Myoplex as well as Cytosport Muscle Milk had trace amounts of heavy metals: Lead, Cadmium, Aresnic higher than the minimum safe intake. I tend to view this with skepticism, in that these same metals can be found in much higher amounts in various regular foods including meat, vegetables, and tap water.

I personally take about 2 Cytosport Monster Milk premade shakes a day simply for convenience. I also use the Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey and Casein, as well as Hydro Builder occasionally.

I personally think that the consumer reports study is flawed in that they based the levels on a 110lbs person, when most bodybuilders who consume such supplements is going to be much heavier. I also recall reading that the FDA later tested Cyto sport products and found them to be within safe levels.

I know there was a push for more federal regulation of bodybuilding supplements, so I tend to view these types of studies with a bit of skepticism. Also, I have been unable to locate any additional recent studies that coroborate these claims or make new ones. The consumer reports study is 2 years old, and I have searched for more recent findings but all I see references the one study from 2010. That also makes me skeptical that no one else has tried or been able to replicate the findings.

Anyways, what are some supplemets you all use or like, as well as your thoughts on the heavy metals study.

[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2012 1:16:36 PM

I usually take ON whey and ON casein, but occasionally I end up with other products if they're on the clearance table at Vitamin Shoppe. I did go through about 2 lbs of EAS Myoplex about 6 months ago. I also eat 5ish servings per week of predator fish (mostly tuna). When I had a physical last month I asked that they test for heavy metals, mostly due to the fish intake, and everything came back fine. YMMV.

6/18/2012 5:08:44 PM

jesus fucking christ. is the "The Weight Room" or "The Lounge"???

6/18/2012 5:14:13 PM

Smath74 curls in the squat rack

6/18/2012 9:10:56 PM

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"Smath74 curls in the squat rack"

Smath74 doesn't rack his weights after curling in the squat rack.

6/18/2012 9:34:15 PM

6/18/2012 9:39:31 PM

for real though, wouldn't a fitness and health section make sense? lets ask fred to make it happen!


brb let me load up every 45 lb plate on the leg press machine and do some reps with a 3 inch range of motion.

6/18/2012 9:54:16 PM

the best supplement anyone can use in the gym to maximize their gain is a tapout beanie and a loud grunt with every movement.

seriously.

6/18/2012 9:55:52 PM

Guys like Smath get raped at my gym.

6/18/2012 10:03:51 PM

are you texting while you're doing your presses?

6/18/2012 10:17:53 PM

El-Oh-El

Back in the day when I did collegiate/club rugby:
Whey Protein - ON whey
Weight Gainer / Quick bfast / Late snack - Cytogainer
Multivitamin - whatever floats your boat
Fish Oil - find something that's not fishy that has 3/6/9
Good ol fashioned creatine monohydrate

Beyond that, you can get into some more interesting stuff (I heard awesome review about jack3d for lifting) but that is more than enough.

Above all else, drink lots of water and eat right.

6/18/2012 10:18:06 PM

This is cool and interactive. On the left, the supplements are categorized as strong, good, or promising evidence for its efficacy. If you click on any of the bubbles, it will take you to the peer reviewed study.

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/play/snake-oil-supplements/

6/18/2012 10:24:04 PM

Supplements are for pussies/cheaters. Grow some balls and knock out a few more reps...stop waiting for your "shake" to do your work for you.

6/18/2012 11:13:01 PM

Jbrick, you would compare supplements to exercise rather than eating...

6/19/2012 12:02:01 AM

I agree with the more natural approach, and I personally therefore limit my supplements to whey and casein. I do use the monster milk though as a meal replacement because for my fucked up schedule it is convenient.


I am interested in hearing others thoughts on the 2 year old heavy metals study though

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"jesus fucking christ. is the "The Weight Room" or "The Lounge"???"

upon further inspection, there certainly are a lot of fitness threads in the lounge. I agree a fitness section would be kind of cool.

Supplement Thread
Running Thread
Pickup Basketball
Strength Training
Beachbody Challenge
Bowling
P90X
Cycling Thread
Camping/Hiking Thread
Greenway Thread

All on page one.



[Edited on June 19, 2012 at 12:24 AM. Reason : .]

6/19/2012 12:19:38 AM

from the study:



Keep in mind the study is based on the average American consuming 3 servings a day.

6/19/2012 7:34:31 AM

http://examine.com/

pretty good resource.

6/19/2012 8:57:52 AM

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"Jbrick, you would compare supplements to exercise rather than eating..."

6/19/2012 9:03:16 AM

^^from that site:

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"Searches peoples used to recently visit our pages: * too much protein kidney broscience"

lol

6/19/2012 9:12:50 AM

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"upon further inspection, there certainly are a lot of fitness threads in the lounge. I agree a fitness section would be kind of cool. Supplement Thread Running Thread Pickup Basketball Strength Training Beachbody Challenge Bowling P90X Cycling Thread Camping/Hiking Thread Greenway Thread"

......

6/19/2012 9:25:56 AM

I thought everyone had whey protein for a snack/breakfast when they were feeling lazy.

6/19/2012 11:04:37 AM

I eat Paleo...with the exception of a protein shake (I guess it's not really "paleo" then...don't fucking care)

I use Nitrean+ from At-Large Nutrition

6/19/2012 11:18:05 AM

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"Guys like Smath get raped at my gym."

oh, you go to a gay gym? cool. i respect your sexual orientation, but rape is bad.

6/19/2012 12:19:09 PM

maybe it's the girls that do the raping and Smath goes to the awesomest gym ever.

6/19/2012 12:57:32 PM

6/19/2012 1:03:08 PM

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" Supplements are for pussies/cheaters. Grow some balls and knock out a few more reps...stop waiting for your "shake" to do your work for you. "

6/19/2012 1:06:13 PM

Of course there are heavy metals in whey, how do you think we get so swole. I want my whey to be as hardcore as I am. They need to release a diamond cut steel flavor

6/21/2012 11:54:27 AM

Anyone have recommendations for a soy protein? My wife mentioned she would like to start using it but I don't know much about the difference in soy proteins and whey.

8/5/2012 6:37:33 PM

Why would you want to use soy protein? Unless you have an allergic condition I do not see any advantage to using soy, especially considering it is typically more expensive.

8/5/2012 8:13:39 PM

Honestly that's part of my question. She said she liked it because it tastes better than Whey. I am fine with using Whey or Soy, just don't know a whole lot about the difference. No allergies to speak of, so whey isn't a problem to use.

8/6/2012 10:36:17 AM

http://whole9life.com/2011/04/legume-manifesto/

8/6/2012 10:51:05 AM

^^ Soy produces an estrogen response in dudes, so I've always read. I also seriously doubt it's as complete in amino acids as whey or egg.

8/6/2012 10:10:02 PM

if someone thinks soy protein tastes better than whey, then they need to stop buying garbage whey protein.

also, guys have no reason eating soy protein. the phytoestrogens in soy can wreck the negative feedback loop of the HTPA, and that's going to be a lot worse than not getting in enough protein.

I rarely do shakes anymore; but that's mainly because shakes just make me hungrier and I'd rather eat a chicken breast or a beef tenderloin.

8/6/2012 10:42:30 PM

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"Soy produces an estrogen response in dudes, so I've always read. I also seriously doubt it's as complete in amino acids as whey or egg. "

Im pretty sure that has been disproven

8/6/2012 11:28:52 PM

you'd be wrong. soy produces enough of an estrogen response that it recommended in lieu of medicine for postmenopausal women.

FWIW, weed has a similar effect.

8/8/2012 11:04:13 PM

Mother of god...

http://www.proteinpow.com

http://www.proteinpow.com/search/label/Protein%20Blondies%20and%20Brownies



http://www.proteinpow.com/search/label/Protein%20Ice%20Cream



http://www.proteinpow.com/search/label/PROTEIN%20BREAD



This...this changes everything.

9/20/2012 4:47:43 PM

I bet that shit tastes nasty

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

9/20/2012 5:47:31 PM