EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/11/ohio-links-teacher-pay-to-test-scores/?hpt=hp_t2
Quote : | "(CNN) – At a time when test scores are used to determine everything from district funding to whether schools can stay open, they’re taking on even broader meaning in Ohio.
Gov. John Kasich has signed legislation that will partially link scores to what teachers are paid.
In Ohio – and many other states throughout the country – teachers have traditionally been evaluated by observers who’ve determined whether the instructors are satisfactory or unsatisfactory.
Evaluations will continue to play a role in Ohio. But by the 2013-14 school year, Ohio public school districts will be giving each teacher a grade, and half of that grade will be based on how much students learn, gauged by their test scores.
Decisions about salary, which teachers to promote, and which ones to fire will be based on these results. Teachers’ seniority will take a back seat in the new policy, and all but the top teachers in the state will be evaluated every year.
There are several reasons for the changes. One lies in the state budget, which specifies that student academic growth must determine at least 50 percent of a teacher’s evaluation.
Another is the federal government’s Race to the Top program. In order to receive funds from it, Ohio is one of several states that have promised to find ways to measure and prove students’ academic growth.
A third reason is that Ohio is one of a majority of states that have gotten an Obama administration waiver from parts of the federal No Child Left Behind law. In order to do that, the state has had to devise more detailed evaluations for teachers and base personnel decisions on them.
Some observers point out that the new Ohio law could still be changed or watered down before it goes into effect." |
Summary: A teacher's pay will partially be determined by student's grades.
Thoughts?
My first ones are:
1. FUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK. Man, we had some bad ass little kids when I was in school. I wouldn't want my salary dependent on those little fucks learning.
2. This kind of puts the onus of learning on the teacher (who already knows the material), and not the student, IMO.7/11/2012 6:59:10 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Metric-based evaluations and incentives are going to destroy this country. 7/11/2012 7:08:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148238 Posts user info edit post |
your summary is tl;dr 7/11/2012 7:22:08 PM |
Meg All American 6759 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, hey, read the news. Wake Co is doing the same thing. Sort of. 7/11/2012 7:32:58 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
Real life school shit. I don't want to be a teacher because of this horse shit legislation.
I promise not to curse or have temper tantrums in front of you kids. 7/11/2012 7:55:09 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3800 Posts user info edit post |
If I was a teacher I'd be cheating out the ying yang to make sure all my kids were getting A+ 7/11/2012 8:03:42 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
I am a teacher. This is a stupid idea.
This is a severe dis-incentive for good teachers to teach at low performing schools. 7/11/2012 8:27:14 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
unc-ch already found the solution. want high graduation rates? give everyone As. 7/11/2012 8:46:22 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22989 Posts user info edit post |
1. Let teachers actually discipline their students. 2. Find a way to get parents to have some skin in the game. I would rather have an overbearing parent who cares about their kid's grade that one who could give two shits about how their kid does.
If you remove a teacher's ability to discipline students, how in the hell can you be held to their performance? You can't even look at a kid the wrong way these days without some type of negative impact coming your way. 7/11/2012 8:50:51 PM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
So the tricks the private sector uses to suppress wages has finally made it to the teachers:
Well that company we bought in Q1 really ate into out profit margin so you, a lowly QA Engineer I, get an "unsatisfactory" in your main goal for the year, which you'll remember was to ensure a 7% profit margin for the company as a whole. That was 50% of your performance evaluation so we're going to have to cut your pay... also the CEO is getting a fat bonus.
Well the parent of that kid you teach didn't make their kid study or do their homework, they tested poorly so we're cutting your pay. 7/11/2012 9:17:30 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think you have any idea how the private sector works. 7/11/2012 9:18:32 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
haha, I hear what you're saying though. If a kid doesn't want to learn, you can't exactly punish the teacher for that.
[Edited on July 11, 2012 at 9:22 PM. Reason : be like panthersny and threaten to put your kid in beauty pagents if they get B's] 7/11/2012 9:20:19 PM |
confusi0n All American 5076 Posts user info edit post |
you're 30 and still 'QA Engineer I' ? 7/11/2012 9:22:38 PM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think you have any idea how the private sector works." |
What I said actually happened. So some private sector works that way.7/11/2012 9:23:27 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
yes, let's take one anecdotal experience and paint a broad stroke on the entire economic engine. 7/11/2012 9:42:42 PM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
I just like to complain about crap companies I've worked for in the past. It's cathartic. 7/11/2012 9:44:37 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
^ I know of a private company that did this but not as severe, uncontrollable goal that effects performance/ bonuses pay.. 7/11/2012 10:05:39 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
I'm teaching the AG kids 7/11/2012 10:07:20 PM |