GeniusXBoy, please check all of these you believe are legit conspiracies going on right now and constitute real, practical threats:

[ ] Chemtrails being dropped by planes to make the public docile/brainwashed/sick

[ ] Flouride being put in the water supply is intended to make the public docile/brainwashed/sick

[ ] FEMA concentration camps

[ ] Imminent threat of foreign troops (Such as the UN) aiding the enforcement of martial law in the US

[ ] 9/11 was an inside job

[ ] Agenda 21 is secretly binding and non-voluntary

[ ] HAARP is actually a weather control/mind control/directed energy weapon

[ ] Anthropogenic Global Warming is a worldwide conspiracy of academia and politicians to institute NWO socialism or something

[ ] The Federal Reserve has century-long plans to enslave mankind to socialist bankers/They killed Kennedy

[ ] A North American Union is being devised behind the scenes as a pre-NWO subjugation of US sovereignty

[ ] Bin Ladin is still alive

[ ] Obama was not born in Hawaii

[ ] Free/Fusion energy suppression

[ ] Cancer cure suppression

[ ] Montauk Experiment

[ ] AIDS was created in a laboratory

[ ] Scientific community unfairly discredits homeopathic medicine

I tried to pick ones that are fairly well-known, please add any that I missed.

7/18/2012 11:40:12 AM

[ ] Chemtrails being dropped by planes to make the public docile/brainwashed/sick

[ ] Flouride being put in the water supply is intended to make the public docile/brainwashed/sick

[x] FEMA concentration camps

[ ] Imminent threat of foreign troops (Such as the UN) aiding the enforcement of martial law in the US

[x] 9/11 was an inside job

[x] Agenda 21 is secretly binding and non-voluntary

[x] HAARP is actually a weather control program still in its infancy /mind control/directed energy weapon

[ ] Anthropogenic Global Warming is a worldwide conspiracy of academia and politicians to institute NWO socialism or something

[x] The Federal Reserve has century-long plans to enslave mankind to socialist bankers/They killed Kennedy

[x] A North American Union is being devised behind the scenes as a pre-NWO subjugation of US sovereignty

[x] Bin Ladin is still alive Bin laden wasn't killed in abbottasbad, not given a sea burial

[x] Obama was not born in Hawaii Obama's birth certificate they released to the public is a fraud

[ ] Free/Fusion energy suppression

[ ] Cancer cure suppression

[ ] Montauk Experiment

[ ] AIDS was created in a laboratory

[ ] Scientific community unfairly discredits homeopathic medicine

[Edited on July 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM. Reason : .]

7/18/2012 11:51:29 AM

Okay that was way less checks than I expected. Theory that you're the flipside of a believe-everything-the-mainstream-media-says-sheeple: Disproven!

7/18/2012 11:53:31 AM

There is considerable proof that population control exists on Earth through religion. We all know man wrote the religion into law without the help of God.

These successful humans realize how successful it was and gloat at their successes through the centuries. These humans come from specific families which leads us to present day.

The ancient symbols are written onto the money and government buildings in plain sight.
The exact path of the current NWO has been out in the open for 100 years now, it's not a secret, you can see the progression on paper over the last hundred years.

You just have to ... do your homework because nobody else is going to do it for you.

It's one of those "Let me google it for you moments" where it only takes a minute to look up and I'm sure you'll be convinced through facts and video evidence of events that actually occurred without question.

7/18/2012 12:03:44 PM

I would think that Bin Laden or al Qaeda would jump at the chance to discredit the United States in the event he actually was alive. I would also think that the Republicans wouldn't hesitate to expose the fraud as well.

7/19/2012 3:04:42 AM

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"I would think that Bin Laden or al Qaeda would jump at the chance to discredit the United States in the event he actually was alive. I would also think that the Republicans wouldn't hesitate to expose the fraud as well."

There are military secrets that the government doesn't know about.

Osama bin Laden is one of these things.

It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is a term coined by the CIA during the Kennedy administration to describe the withholding of information from senior officials in order to protect them from repercussions in the event that illegal or unpopular activities by the CIA became public knowledge." (src: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability)

7/19/2012 3:20:43 AM

Please provide a source that isn't Alex Jones or Jesse Ventura that proves FEMA concentration camps exist.

7/20/2012 10:43:27 AM

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"There are military secrets that the government doesn't know about."

buuut dayyuuuum, GeniuSxBoY figured it out while putting a pizza in the oven.

7/20/2012 11:48:22 AM

Oh Jesus, here we go with the pizza jokes.

One I achieved the feat of making a pizza, my learning abilities were severed and lost contact with the outside world.

7/20/2012 12:11:06 PM

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"Please provide a source that isn't Alex Jones or Jesse Ventura that proves FEMA concentration camps exist."

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=fema+camps


Here's a good one that seem legitimate.

solicitation number HSFEHQ-10-R-0027, titled National Responder Support Camp.

The staffing requirements or cadre for FEMA personnel for these camps -- which are identified as being located in five (5) distinct regions throughout and within the borders of the USA, with camps located in each and every state -- was three to fifteen each. The size of these camps will vary around 5 acres per 1,000 inhabitants, though they will never be less than 3 acres for populations of 500 or fewer inhabitants within the camps' boundaries.


"The first of several anomalies in the solicitation for bid was in the contractor staffing requirements, which puzzlingly required staff to be fully operational within 72 hours. Furthermore, "[w]henever practical, displaced citizens will be given the first opportunities for employment within the camp, assuming skills and capabilities are pertinent for the open positions."

This led me to question the stated purpose of these camps, considering that the successful contractor would need to have personnel ready to go on such short notice, with notification from FEMA, Homeland Security, or the president within 72 hours. So the question arises: how could the camp utilize "displaced citizens" in the initial staffing unless the contractor knew where and when a disaster, man-made or otherwise would occur beforehand?"



here's the article to read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/new_nationwide_fema_camps_should_raise_eyebrows.html


Here's his source: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=f0009a85b39f7aad2b27a9b2b5bcd6b6&tab=core&_cview=1

7/20/2012 12:21:30 PM

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"This led me to question the stated purpose of these camps, considering that the successful contractor would need to have personnel ready to go on such short notice, with notification from FEMA, Homeland Security, or the president within 72 hours. So the question arises: how could the camp utilize "displaced citizens" in the initial staffing unless the contractor knew where"

Just because no one has a use for a pizza maker in the event of a disaster does not mean there is no place for additional help concerning things like medical personal, construction type people (plumbing, electrical, etc), communications, and probably a host of other things neither you nor I can think of because we aren't disaster response planning professional.

7/20/2012 2:23:38 PM

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"Just because no one has a use for a pizza maker in the event of a disaster does not mean there is no place for additional help concerning things like medical personal, construction type people (plumbing, electrical, etc), communications, and probably a host of other things neither you nor I can think of because we aren't disaster response planning professional."

Typical "don't bother -- let the experts handle it" mentality.

Letting the expert handle it is what got us in this current crisis. Maybe the experts aren't so expert afterall.

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" probably a host of other things neither you nor I can think of"

these words are the most horrific part of your reasoning.


[Edited on July 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

7/20/2012 3:44:54 PM

i forgot that trying to discuss anything with you is pointless but i am going to give you 2 examples and be done.

I am not an epidemiologist, I have no training in the field of medicine what so ever. I have to read the bottles to figure out what to take for a mild fever.

I know that in the case of natural disasters, conditions exist that create an increased likelihood of an out break of communicable diseases. This would be the kind of thing a disaster epidemiologist would work on. Depending on the level of disaster they may have need to recruit additional helpers from the general populous that is near by for non-medical related task such as data collection/entry. This would be a possible immediate need that may or may not be fully staffed by a contractors 'o shit' plan. Neither you, myself, or the legion of internet conspiracy theorist are qualified to make that call. There's a good possibility that even the people qualified my miss the necessary head count numbers because the disaster or displacement turns out to be bigger then predicated.

#2

While one would hope it is not the case there also exist the potential for the planned contracted relief personal to, themselves, be victims of the disaster.

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"Typical "don't bother -- let the experts handle it" mentality."

99% of the time yes. I do not want to have a bone set by a fry cook, my network designed by a marketing rep, my house built by a cardiologist, or my bourbon made by a hedge fund manager. Like wise, I don't think my large scale disaster response plan should be prepared by a data center networking specialist or a pizzeria owner.

[Edited on July 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM. Reason : grammer]

7/20/2012 4:03:40 PM

So the 1% of the time that you ignore won't potentially cost you your life?

Did all those investors who invested and lost everything while listening to the advice of one world renown Bernie Madoff, a professional, in business for decades, trustworthy, and wouldn't purposely steer you in the wrong direction because he's a professional, come out on top?

Professional doesn't mean jack shit. Anyone can be a professional. A professional can recommend chemotherapy and kill you. In the end, what happens to you is YOUR responsibility.

The best thing you can do is cover yourself as much as possible. Look at
1) trust 2) reassurance 3) a history of positive results 4) error rate 5) motive 6) best and worst case scenarios.

The government has an F rating right now on all of the above. You'd be a fool to "let the professionals" do a job that could potentially affect you negatively; blindly and without question.



[Edited on July 20, 2012 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]

7/20/2012 5:18:56 PM

What out Reagan inventing crack to destroy poor working class America.

7/21/2012 7:46:41 AM

What, no Jews?

7/21/2012 11:12:32 PM

Lol at this comment:


"Micheal Savage the picture you are showing purporting to be comparing two BCs for BO is in fact comparing a birth certificate for BO and one for a FEMALE named Elizabeth. Try to at least pretend to do some honest fact finding!"

7/22/2012 1:11:39 AM

Why is that comment lol?

7/22/2012 1:52:42 AM

Hm I found one of his articles: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

7/22/2012 10:44:53 AM

^^Because the pictures doesn't "supposed to be comparing two barack obama" birth certificates.

It is merely showing another birth certificate that is so close in sequence

Obama's serial number is 61 10641 and Susan's is 61 10637.
Obama's birthtime was 7:25 P.m and Susan's is 2:12 P.M.
(That's how close they were born to each other)


What's interesting is that the one of the right says "This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record..."
Barack's doesn't say it's a copy.
Barack's must be an original, right.
But if is an original, then why is the printstock different?



[Edited on July 22, 2012 at 1:40 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2012 1:37:51 PM

Neither one is an original. The one on the left says, quite clearly, that it is a copy: "I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health"

Why is the print stock different? I would imagine it has to do with the fact that one was printed on May 5, 1966 and the other on April 25, 2011.

I'm no print stock genius, but it's probably safe to assume the types of print stock in use at the Hawaii Department of Health has changed once or twice over the past 45 years.

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"It is merely showing another birth certificate that is so close in sequence"

So, no, not really. The original birth certificates are close in sequence, however what's actual being shown are copies of those two birth certificates, produced 45 years apart.

7/22/2012 2:31:52 PM

where is the embossed seal in Obama's copy?
Where is the text explaining that it's a copy in obama's copy?

7/22/2012 2:40:21 PM

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"where is the embossed seal in Obama's copy?"

Why does it need to be embossed? My North Carolina birth certificate is not embossed. Or, more correctly, my copy of my birth certificate (which looks pretty much like Obama's, with the exception of the paper it's printed on) is not embossed.

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"Where is the text explaining that it's a copy in obama's copy?"

It's a short document, I'll let you find it on your own.

7/22/2012 2:48:14 PM

Obama's lawyer in NJ (Alex Hill) admitted that his digital birth certificate was a forgery.

Why haven't the "credible" news outlets asked the WH/campaign about this?

7/22/2012 2:51:42 PM

Sorry for being a dunce

but how did they copy it and put it on new paper?

7/22/2012 2:53:25 PM

Why don't you go down to the Department of Health and get a copy of your own birth certificate? Then you can see first hand how it is done.

7/22/2012 2:59:16 PM

So what you're tell me is that they copied it first, then they scanned it, instead of scanning the original?

7/22/2012 3:00:40 PM

I didn't say that at all.

Or anything like that, really.

But nice try putting words in my mouth.

7/22/2012 3:03:13 PM

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"Obama's lawyer in NJ (Alex Hill) admitted that his digital birth certificate was a forgery. Why haven't the "credible" news outlets asked the WH/campaign about this?"

link

7/22/2012 3:04:13 PM

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm asking what you said in straight forward words.

[Edited on July 22, 2012 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2012 3:06:25 PM

I said

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"Why don't you go down to the Department of Health and get a copy of your own birth certificate? Then you can see first hand how it is done."

If you tell me where you were born, I'll even find the address for you.

7/22/2012 3:07:33 PM

So what you're tell me is that they(DoH) copied it first, then they(white house) scanned it, instead of scanning the original?

Seems rational to me. I don't know why you'd have issues with it.

7/22/2012 3:09:41 PM

My issue is that I've said no such thing.

My issue is that you keep saying "So what you're telling me is..." and then spewing out what you think and not what I said.

7/22/2012 3:11:54 PM

So tell me, then: they(DoH) copied it first, then they(white house) scanned it, instead of scanning the original?

7/22/2012 3:12:57 PM

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"Obama's lawyer in NJ (Alex Hill) admitted that his digital birth certificate was a forgery. Why haven't the "credible" news outlets asked the WH/campaign about this?"

I say this all the time: I feel silly even discussing this. That being said, have you actually seen the testimony that this claim is based on? What his lawyer says is that, even if a candidate does has a birth certificate, they are under no legal obligation to provide it to be placed on a primary ballot in NJ (and then goes on to confirm that, in NJ, it is legal for a third party to get a person on the ballot with or without his or her permission).

You can watch the whole mind-numbingly boring hearing on YouTube, and again, I feel like I'm losing at life for even going to the effort of pointing this out, but at no point does she say or even imply that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.

If you google "Alex Hill birth certificate" , the reason you don't find any reputable or even semi-reputable news outlets is that the only people who are even talking about this are just crazy people pathetically grasping at straws.

7/22/2012 3:13:34 PM

You realize you don't have access to your original birth certificate at all, right?

So, yes, every birth certificate you'll ever see is a copy.

*cue, "AH HA, MY JOB HERE IS DONE. I'VE GOTTEN YOU TO ADMIT IT'S ALL A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY TO SIGN OVER YOUR LIVES TO THE MATRIX"*

7/22/2012 3:15:16 PM

No jason, there are no tricks here. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same page. Thanks for your input though.

7/22/2012 3:16:42 PM

Do you really have absolutely no clue how birth certificates work?

I'm serious when I say you need to go get a copy of your own birth certificate and see the process first hand.

...and what page is that?

[Edited on July 22, 2012 at 3:17 PM. Reason : ]

7/22/2012 3:17:10 PM

What part of what I said is wrong?

7/22/2012 3:18:04 PM

Your whole idea of how records are maintained and archived seems to be off.

7/22/2012 3:20:42 PM

"they(DoH) copied it first, then they(white house) scanned it, instead of scanning the original"

pinpoint my error

7/22/2012 3:22:23 PM

Where do you think the original is?

7/22/2012 3:23:47 PM

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" instead of scanning the original"

You make it seem like that's not normal.

7/22/2012 3:24:00 PM

In the Department of Health's possession. I don't know where the original is housed, whether it's in Hawaii or DC.

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"You make it seem like that's not normal."

Things are not what they seem. I'm checking the accuracy of the statement as it stands. No tricks.

[Edited on July 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2012 3:25:11 PM

I'll give you a hint:

The original paper birth certificate very likely no longer exists.

Neither does mine.

Neither does yours.

Neither does most anyone else's.

7/22/2012 3:28:00 PM

^That's a revelation to me.

Please continue.

Explain to me what happens in the life of an original birth certificate from its birth to destruction.

7/22/2012 3:31:24 PM

The government didn't know my grandfather existed until he enlisted to go off for WWII since his birth certificate was supposedly burned in a courthouse fire. I bet he was probably just a foreign national trying to infiltrate our military, though.

7/22/2012 3:31:57 PM

Thank you for your input, jazon.

7/22/2012 3:35:07 PM

They use this awesome cutting-edge archival technology called microfilm.

If the Department of Health is really into bleeding edge archival technology, they may have even digitized the microfilm!

7/22/2012 3:35:30 PM

While you make the point of microfilm, it does not tell me what happens to the paper document.

Do they shred it?
Do they keep it?
Do they send it to Washington DC?

7/22/2012 3:40:08 PM