...according to the mistress of the CIA director. Especially interesting considering the President specifically banned the CIA from detaining individuals in 2009.

11/15/2012 12:32:36 AM

link?

11/15/2012 12:35:47 AM

BBC headline story on the radio. Fox claims they have another source confirming it.

Torture was not mentioned(just prisoners), but hey, it's the CIA, it's what they do.

It's what we do.

We're Americans; we torture people. Not really news to anyone.

Quote :

"While Executive Order 13491, signed on January 22, 2009, orders the closure of all CIA detention facilities (aka “Black Sites”), Section 2(g) specifically states: The terms ‘detention facilities’ and ‘detention facility’ in section 4(a) of this order do not refer to facilities used only to hold people on a short-term, transitory basis."

Aren't we all on this planet on a "short-term, transitory basis", philosophically speaking?

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 12:47 AM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 12:40:00 AM

Please to provide a link to where the mistress said that. I see nothing on BBC, AJE or in mine google news feed.


I'm not saying your wrong, I'd just like to read it

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 12:50 AM. Reason : a]

11/15/2012 12:48:35 AM

I'll let you choose your own source, who knows if any of them can be trusted. She let it slip during a speech a month or so ago. No one was paying attention to her at the time.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&spell=1&q=petraeus+mistress+prisoners+benghazi

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 1:07 AM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 1:03:06 AM

I posted this news in the petraeus thread, first page, ~5 posts from the bottom

11/15/2012 4:23:41 AM

One upped by gxb!

Decent read:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/fox-news-and-those-benghazi-detainees/2012/11/14/540522a0-2e68-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_blog.html

11/15/2012 5:53:42 AM

A)The building in Benghazi is called a consulate, not an embassy.
B)The mistress was referring to the CIA Annex, a completely separate building.
C)She's full of shit.
D)You're full of shit.

If for some reason the CIA was detaining prisoners in the CIA Annex, they were doing it in direct violation of Executive Order 13491 and will be punished for it. What your rampant speculation has to do with the attack on the Benghazi consulate remains a mystery.

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 8:55 AM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 8:54:21 AM

we have a CIA annex in Benghazi?

11/15/2012 9:00:18 AM

I feel like all of this should be classified until there is a thorough investigation.

11/15/2012 10:31:25 AM

Quote :

"until there is a thorough investigation any incriminating evidence can be swept under the rug."

11/15/2012 10:37:20 AM

It's almost as though the CIA is the CIA.

11/15/2012 10:40:07 AM

Quote :

"CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished CIA ... will be punished"

11/15/2012 11:28:36 AM

ibtc

in before thread is classified and thereby moved to PP

11/15/2012 11:41:13 AM

Quote :

"I feel like all of this should be classified until there is a thorough investigation."

Nah, the White House should just tweet every nugget of intel it gets as it comes in, surely that wont lead to conflicting stories and tabloid-like speculation and propagation of rumors and falsehoods among the public.

11/15/2012 11:47:18 AM

Quote :

"A)The building in Benghazi is called a consulate, not an embassy."

eh, not exactly a consulate either.

11/15/2012 1:47:09 PM

well, wikipedia agrees with me.

Quote :

"CIA ... will be punished"

Yeah, I know. All the way up to the Director level, no one at the CIA has ever faced the consequences of their actions.

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 1:53:22 PM

sure is ironic. for all of the grief smc gives the mainstream media, he loves to post misleading, inflammatory titles with posts that have ambiguous *at best* information.

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 2:12 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 2:11:57 PM

It is the duty of the government to prove my vague and unfounded assertions false.

It hasn't happened yet.

Even if Benghazi wasn't a torture dungeon I'm sure they have others. The precise location isn't important. We all know they still torture.

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 3:22:14 PM

I like people who continue to look towards Benghazi as some sort of conspiracy. It's like people who identify themselves as libertarians...makes it easier to weed out the idiots

11/15/2012 5:50:28 PM

Solid analysis, champ.

11/15/2012 5:55:18 PM

Quote :

"It is the duty of the government to prove my vague and unfounded assertions false. "

no, it's really not.

11/15/2012 6:11:36 PM

i love the republicans skipping security briefings on this so they can go on fox news and talk about how they aren't getting enough information

looking at you, mccain

11/15/2012 6:27:06 PM

Quote :

"Solid analysis, champ."

I wasn't analyzing...I was judging. your failure to grasp that clearly puts you into the aforementioned bucket of dumb.

[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2012 8:58:22 PM

Best thread for this. So Petraeous testified this morning. All I see on twitter is conservatives throwing around impeachment and citing Rep King. But then I see what he actually said and it seems that Petreaus pretty much absolved Obama and the WH of any politicizing at all and confirmed what he said.

What am I missing?

11/16/2012 12:52:06 PM

Analysis != News. Analysis is what you're seeing.

11/16/2012 12:58:41 PM

solid analysis, chump

11/16/2012 1:18:33 PM

News comes from YouTube, duh!

11/16/2012 1:23:19 PM

It's a fact that information doesn't come in any form other than printed form.

11/16/2012 1:24:30 PM

It's definitely a fact that printed/internet media is faster to consume, easier to consumer at work, and easier to fact check

fact

[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM. Reason : I don't have a video that says that though]

11/16/2012 1:28:23 PM

No, it's the fact you're at work and you don't want to be caught not doing work.

11/16/2012 1:30:35 PM

Quote :

"It's a fact that information doesn't come in any form other than printed form."

as usual, what are you talking about? who said that? who are you talking to? aren't we talking about what Petraeous testified this morning, out of his mouth?

11/16/2012 1:33:53 PM

Quote :

" as usual, what are you talking about? who said that? who are you talking to? aren't we talking about what Petraeous testified this morning, out of his mouth?"

No, dtownral keeps hassling me about posting the video form of information.

11/16/2012 1:35:53 PM

Our Afghan puppet president is upset that we won't stop kidnapping his citizens.
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20132956/afghan-president-us-violating-detainee-pact

Suspects in Benghazi attacks keep dying in (CIA?) custody.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/17/2nd_tunisian_detainee_dies_after_hunger_strike/

[Edited on November 27, 2012 at 1:51 PM. Reason : .]

11/27/2012 1:45:20 PM

Quote :

"Bradley Manning back in the news: FORT MEADE, Md. (AP) — An Army private charged in the biggest security breach in U.S. history is trying to avoid trial by claiming he was already punished enough when he was locked up alone in a small cell and forced to sleep naked for several nights. Pfc. Bradley Manning was expected to testify about his treatment during a pretrial hearing set to begin Tuesday and run through Sunday in a military court at Fort Meade, outside Baltimore. His lawyers contend Manning was illegally punished by being locked up alone in a small cell for nearly nine months at the Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va., and having to sleep naked for several nights. http://news.yahoo.com/wikileaks-gi-argue-detention-merits-release-121733314.html"

It's not like we don't kidnap our own people.... unconstitutionally legally.

11/27/2012 1:53:03 PM

11/27/2012 2:05:15 PM

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

The State Department Accountability Review Board just released its AAR and findings on the Benghazi attacks. Its worth checking out if you're still interested in how things went down, they provide a pretty detailed outline of events in the middle of the document.

12/19/2012 3:55:21 PM

An unclassified report that refuses to even mention the CIA presence at the site is completely worthless.

Quote :

" We're Americans; we torture people. It's what we do. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9743741/CIA-black-jail-interrogations-were-torture-European-court-rules.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/report-finds-harsh-cia-interrogations-ineffective/2012/12/13/a9da510a-455b-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html

Quote :

"Earlier this year, the Justice Department closed investigations of alleged abuses, eliminating the prospect that CIA operatives who had gone beyond the approved methods would face criminal charges. Last week, Col. James L. Pohl, the military judge at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, who is overseeing the prosecution of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four others accused of conspiring in the Sept. 11 attacks, granted a request by prosecutors to treat anything the detainees say about their C.I.A. interrogations as classified. "

[Edited on December 20, 2012 at 12:29 AM. Reason : .]

12/20/2012 12:09:41 AM

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/01/exclusive-dozens-of-cia-operatives-on-the-ground-during-benghazi-attack/?on.cnn=1

8/1/2013 9:17:18 PM

The CIA? Present as a government falls? Ya don't say!

8/1/2013 10:35:35 PM

Likely handing out weapons without presidential approval, if I had to take a guess.

And torturing people in their spare time.

8/1/2013 11:11:46 PM