out 11/22/13

latest EW issue has new pictures from the set, check some out here!

http://www.ew.com/ew/package/0,,20419951,00.html



talk amongst yourselves


[Edited on January 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM. Reason : link]

1/15/2013 10:57:01 AM

iop1

1/15/2013 12:27:36 PM

Dang I must be the only one who cares. Ah well

1/15/2013 1:32:43 PM

...?

1/15/2013 2:23:02 PM

^^no, there just isn't that much to talk about at this point

1/15/2013 2:30:13 PM

Hopefully this movie continues the precedent set by the first one of watering down the core themes of the book to make sure it doesn't provoke any thoughts or offend anyone.

1/16/2013 9:59:27 AM

There has been plenty of talk about this one in the thread for the first movie.

1/16/2013 12:41:27 PM

well i made you a new one

1/16/2013 12:50:06 PM

I wasn't complaining, just pointing out that people do care

1/16/2013 1:05:47 PM

i am so excited! the second book was my favorite of the 3 so i am interested in seeing how it comes out as a movie.

1/16/2013 1:26:02 PM

Once a trailer is out I'll get more excited. Then I'll also begin to get excited for casting for the third movie. Which I guess I need a refresher on new characters in 3 vs 2.

1/16/2013 1:26:59 PM

1/16/2013 1:33:17 PM

Quote :

"i am so excited! the second book was my favorite of the 3 so i am interested in seeing how it comes out as a movie."

Ditto that. I can't wait to see how they do that clock thing.

1/18/2013 10:20:04 PM

I read them all back to back so I guess that's why I don't really have a favorite. But am really looking forward to seeing how the clock thing turns out.

1/18/2013 10:44:50 PM

The movie will be a disappointment

1/18/2013 10:49:14 PM

Not expecting much, honestly.

[Edited on January 18, 2013 at 11:52 PM. Reason : f]

1/18/2013 11:52:21 PM

OMFG SPOILERS JESUS

1/19/2013 2:59:41 PM

new trailer out http://movies.yahoo.com/video/hunger-games-catching-fire-trailer-211105191.html, looks good to me

[Edited on July 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM. Reason : $$$]

7/21/2013 11:56:42 AM

Thad Castle making an appearance.

7/21/2013 6:46:30 PM

Not technically about Catching Fire, but some of y'all might be interested:

http://www.eonline.com/news/452591/mockingjay-casting-stef-dawson-joins-hunger-games-franchise-as-annie-cresta

10/7/2013 5:42:39 PM

New trailer

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/27/final-catching-fire-trailer-world-series-game-4/

11/3/2013 8:12:12 PM

That's the first trailer I've seen that actually made part 2 distinguishable from part 1.

11/4/2013 12:04:53 PM

It was really fucking good

11/23/2013 3:40:47 PM

i know no one that will go see this with me

who wants to sit through it with me? I promise not to talk like I usually do

[Edited on November 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM. Reason : ]

11/23/2013 3:42:10 PM

I really liked it, but I wish they had spent more time on showing what happened in the arena.

11/23/2013 7:39:44 PM

If they can create living monsters out of nothing, than why not just create cattle, chicken, turkeys etc for agriculture and food.

Those god damn monsters in the first one were so fucking retarded. It killed the movie for me.

See what happens when you let a woman write a story about a dystopian future, oppressive government, and future military technology.

11/23/2013 8:14:37 PM

Better than the 1st? Like TDK wich is better than batman begins

11/23/2013 8:25:38 PM

^^ in the book they did not come from nothing

^ I liked the first one, and I thought this one was even better

[Edited on November 23, 2013 at 8:38 PM. Reason : $$$]

11/23/2013 8:37:59 PM

Quote :

"in the book they did not come from nothing"

Im not talking about the book, I did not read the book. In the movie, it made no sense and was stupid

11/24/2013 1:58:11 AM

I really wish it stood on its own more. I haven't read the books. So as someone just walking in and not knowing to expect it to just end without any conclusion, it was a major detractor as far as me saying that this movie itself is "good". It was a good part of something bigger. But it didn't even feel like a great cliff hanger. It felt more like a place I'd decide to put a book down for the night to go to bed, expecting to pick it right back up tomorrow (not a year from now). Not a situation where I can't wait for the next part. But just "well, this is a good break in everything". I.E. I'm not clamoring to see what's left due to anticipation or desire to know what happens next. I want to see the rest simply because I feel like i'm only about 1/2 - 2/3 through this movie.

For what there is of it, I did generally like it as much as the first, and it may have even been better. But it just doesn't stand on its own as a movie. Perhaps that doesn't/won't bother others as much as me.

I've since learned that the book itself pretty much just stops. I'd be just as bothered by that. It's bad/cheap writing imo unless the second part is going to be released very shortly thereafter.

11/24/2013 2:09:28 AM

^I thought it was pretty common knowledge that this was part of a trilogy.

I read the first two but haven't read Mockingjay so it follows the books. Part one was about developing the love triangle and Katniss' fame in the districts. Part two told much more about the individual districts and them starting to rally, and how the Capital will stop at nothing to hold power. Book three, I assume, will be about the rebellion itself.

The end of the movie makes sense because Peeta is being held at the Capital and they're on a hovercraft to district 14, which was assumed until now to be destroyed, to raise an army.

Quote :

"I really liked it, but I wish they had spent more time on showing what happened in the arena."

that was my sentiment as well. same as the first movie, they don't really show the actual hunger aspect to the the event, it all seems to take place in a day whereas in the books they're longer and people are fighting starvation/dehydration just as much as each other.

[Edited on November 24, 2013 at 3:50 AM. Reason : .]

11/24/2013 3:45:36 AM

^^ that post makes absolutely no sense.

11/24/2013 10:14:02 AM

Catching Fire was better than Hunger Games IMO.

Also LOL at the new cat. Well played for the book fans.

11/24/2013 8:27:11 PM

The Hunger Games (movie) was poorly directed and filmed, and I don't think I could stand watching it again. I mean, my whole group of friends came away feeling Peeta was some master deceiver who played Katniss the entire time and was planning on not eating the berries and tricking her into it. It really felt like a "young adult" watered down version of Battle Royale.

Catching Fire felt like a much better movie. It actually dealt with social aspects of the games and felt like the plot was purposefully leading somewhere. The random traps and environmental hazards also felt legitimately interesting, especially since they were timed and predictable and thus exploitable. The first movie hazards . . . just dumb and ridiculous and at the whims of the masters. I enjoyed this movie.

[Edited on November 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM. Reason : ]

11/25/2013 12:11:47 AM

Quote :

"thought it was pretty common knowledge that this was part of a trilogy. "

I knew it was a trilogy/part of a series. I'm not sure what that matters though. There are a lot of trilogies/series where the different parts that make it up have a relatively complete story within themselves. And most don't just suddenly stop. There is usually some sense of conclusion despite it being only part of the bigger story. They may as well have just put "to be continued..." at the end of Catching Fire.

The Hunger Games was a story in and of itself. Almost all of the Harry Potter movies stand on their own despite being part of a bigger story. Each of the original Star Wars stand on their own. Each of the movies from the Lord of the Rings stand on their own in that they each give the audience a reasonable sense of a beginning, middle, and end while each part is the beginning, middle, and end of the bigger story. The Millennium Trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, ... Played with Fire, and ... Kicked the Hornet's Nest) all stand on their own despite each being part of a trilogy.

The Hunger Games is a good movie. Hunger Game + Catching Fire + Mocking Jay may be a great overall story. Catching Fire + Mocking Jay may be a great continuation of The Hunger Games. But Catching Fire doesn't work by itself. It's dependent on Mocking Jay for its conclusion. Not just in that the trilogy has no conclusion without Mocking Jay, but Catching Fire would have no conclusion.

I can watch any one of the Bourne Trilogy films, and they stand on their own even though you need to watch all of the first 3 to get the complete story. It's not part 1, part 2a and part 2b, which is exactly what this felt like.

IMO, this is a really crappy approach.

Quote :

"^^ that post makes absolutely no sense."

Absolutely no sense... really? Or you just don't agree? I felt jipped. I felt like I got an incomplete experience. There was no sense of fulfillment from seeing this movie on its own. I've suggested to people that they just wait for Mocking Jay to come out. Watch this one on dvd/on-demand/whatever, and then go see Mocking Jay very shortly after. This is a blatantly incomplete story by itself.

[Edited on November 25, 2013 at 1:49 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2013 1:39:16 AM

[Edited on November 25, 2013 at 3:06 AM. Reason : d]

11/25/2013 2:42:22 AM

saw it last night. thought it was ok. will never watch again.

11/25/2013 7:04:13 AM

^^^i can sort of understand that sentiment, especially if you haven't read the books. It does stop rather abruptly (although the ending was exactly the same as the 2nd book), but I would argue that it does tell a full story. This one is all about 2 things, the seeds of a revolution and the quarter quell, and by the end we see both of those followed all the way through. She survives the quarter quell, through a giant act of defiance (shown to everyone in Panem) with contributions from members of multiple districts, and even the capital, and this pushes things over the edge to full blown revolution, and whether she likes it or not, katniss is the symbol of that revolution. It wouldn't make much sense to get into the next part of the story in this one

[Edited on November 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM. Reason : $$$]

11/25/2013 8:04:41 AM

It read like you were drunk, and you contradict yourself a couple times, but I was employing some hyperbole there.

11/25/2013 9:38:16 AM

Jennifer is damn hot like catching fire.

11/25/2013 9:43:59 AM

I just saw the movie and really likes it. I read the books and liked the first one ok but I wasn't blown away, thought this one was much better. The casting in both has been superb.

11/25/2013 6:56:28 PM

Saw it last night and enjoyed it. I didn't feel like there needed to be more time in the arena. Also agree that the casting was done well. Love me some Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Sounds bad...but whenever he shows up in a movie, I'm like..."oh, this movie is legit now."

What's the time table for the third movie?

11/26/2013 9:41:50 AM

Quote :

"Peeta was some master deceiver who played Katniss the entire time and was planning on not eating the berries and tricking her into it"

I didn't get the feeling w/ the berries (probably missed it) but, not having read the books, Peeta seemed to come off as a giant piece of shit that put her on the spot with the whole love thing. And unless I completely missed something, she basically didn't give the slightest shit about him. Could have been different in the book, though.

Quote :

"There is usually some sense of conclusion despite it being only part of the bigger story."

I would be cool with there not being a sense of conclusion so long as it didn't take a friggin' year for the next bit to come out.

[Edited on November 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM. Reason : ]

11/26/2013 9:58:48 AM

Quote :

"Love me some Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Sounds bad...but whenever he shows up in a movie, I'm like..."oh, this movie is legit now.""

+1

Quote :

"Peeta seemed to come off as a giant piece of shit that put her on the spot with the whole love thing. And unless I completely missed something, she basically didn't give the slightest shit about him"

Their "love" was the thing that saved their lives, so it's hard to find much fault there...and I don't remember her being put on the spot. Also I don't know how the book handles it, but in the movies she seems to care about him whenever she's not with that dude who dumped Miley.

11/26/2013 10:05:06 AM

when it comes to the time in the arena, the pacing and how much was shown was, i thought, just the right amount. not to do this, but even in the book there isn't much time spent in the arena. that is mostly because of the events as we saw in the movie with the physical destruction of the arena.

PSH is awesome; i totally forgot he was in this until i saw him which was a really nice surprise.

Part 1 of Mockingjay is Nov '14 and Part 2 will be Nov '15

and regarding Peeta and the whole love thing. this is a game, albeit a nasty one with death, but a game nonetheless. you play to win and exercise any strategies possible. Peeta was smart enough to know to appeal to the audience and therefore sponsors, which are the difference between life and death. and Haymitch was spot on after Katniss flipped at Peeta for declaring he had a crush on her. whether real or fake, the intention was to make her likable and appealing and that's what Peeta did.

[Edited on November 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .]

11/26/2013 10:26:52 AM

^ fair enough

11/26/2013 10:34:17 AM

Am I the only one who thinks that J-Law and Josh Hutcherson have horrible on-screen chemistry??

11/26/2013 10:51:41 AM

Eh...its kind of the point for the majority of the movie. He's in love with her, but knows she doesn't feel the same way...then flip that on her side. It's suppose to be "awkward".

11/26/2013 10:56:50 AM

Yeah I get that. I know their "love" isn't genuine so there's supposed to be a degree of awkwardness...but I have a hard time believing the situation in general.
Maybe it's because Josh Hutcherson comes off as really young to me...I still picture him as the kid in Little Manhattan.

11/26/2013 11:01:45 AM

the awkwardness works for me

so i'm ok with it

11/26/2013 12:59:32 PM