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"Store owner Rodney James Duve, 52, of Corpus Christi, Texas was arrested Saturday night after shooting and killing an unidentified 39-year-old man who attempted to leave his store without paying for a 12-pack of beer. The man was shot multiple times outside Duve’s Quick Stop, and police say he was shot “at least once” in the head. He was taken to Spohn Memorial Hospital where he was pronounced dead. Duve was charged with murder after the shooting and is currently being held in Nueces County Jail on $35,000 bond."

http://gawker.com/texas-store-owner-shoots-and-kills-man-stealing-beer-1424915738


Some of these comments are cray cray

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"I have no problem with this. Don't steal shit from store owners, bars and cashiers barely scraping by. It's a good warning to other thugs."

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"Well isn't he allowed to shoot and kill anyone who attempts to steal his goods? Or is that just in self defense? There seems to be nothing wrong here."

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"Its unfortunate the guy died, but its obvious that he wasn't some saint who went around contributing anything positive to society. I hope the shop owner's charges are reduced considerably, I firmly believe that we have a right to protect our property and ourselves."

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"This makes me wonder - we don't know for sure for sure if the store owner intended to kill the guy. Maybe he thought he was just going to disable him or something, like shooting him in the ankle. Which goes to show that a lot of people who own guns for self-protection are completely incapable of using them correctly. If this guy was well-trained, he probably could have at least avoided shooting the thief in the head. Sooner or later there will be a mass-shooting situation where some "American hero" with a gun but little training is going to try to take down the criminal and end up hitting a bunch of bystanders and make everything 10 times more chaotic. Jesus Christ, the police do that all the time and they have tons of firearms training"

9/30/2013 2:04:25 PM

two stupids don't make no smarts.

9/30/2013 2:06:47 PM

Also I think it's interesting what Gawker did with the mugshot.

They turned this:


into this:


Looks more frightening right?

He goes from looking like Artie Lang to a Ariel Castro kinda guy

9/30/2013 2:06:51 PM

This is why I don't own a gun because I have no problem with shooting someone in the legs trying to steal something from you. He shouldnt have killed the guy but I dont blame him for firing some shots.

9/30/2013 2:15:02 PM

he kinda looks like a shitty human being in both of them

9/30/2013 2:15:24 PM

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"This is why I don't own a gun because I have no problem with shooting someone"

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

9/30/2013 2:17:26 PM

You are King Shitheel if you fucking shoot a human being over a fucking 12-pack of beer, shooting to kill or not.

9/30/2013 2:18:08 PM

I don't own anything worth shooting someone over

[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM. Reason : asd]

9/30/2013 2:18:11 PM

So you shoot him in the leg, hit is femoral artery and he dies. Why not just shoot when, where, and how you are supposed to and skip this vengeance bullshit?


^this. well other than my dogs.

but that's no excuse for the robber. don't give a shit about him either.

[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/30/2013 2:18:46 PM

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"This is why I don't own a gun because I have no problem with shooting someone in the legs trying to steal something from you."

That's a really good reason. You should stick with that for life.

9/30/2013 2:25:12 PM

for all we know the dude was drunk or cognitively impaired and didn't even realize he hadn't paid

9/30/2013 2:31:25 PM

^ yeah it could be a retard

9/30/2013 2:34:44 PM

It could be a crackhead got 'hold of the wrong stuff.

9/30/2013 2:35:59 PM

9/30/2013 2:46:48 PM

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"I don't own anything worth shooting someone over"

I do, its my stuff - MINE. Don't be worthless bitch and steal some shit.

9/30/2013 6:24:59 PM

What a horrible and humiliating way to die.

9/30/2013 7:45:13 PM

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"two stupids don't make no smarts."

amen

9/30/2013 7:47:56 PM

good, fuck thieves

unless he was stealing the beer to feed his starving family

9/30/2013 7:50:46 PM

^ is this a rare BigMan troll, or are you really pleased with a guy being shot to death because he stole a 12 pack of beer?

10/2/2013 11:36:26 AM

So the guy just walked out without paying and thats it?

No confrontation or anything? Just snuck out?

10/2/2013 11:53:43 AM

I would've fired at least 5-6 shots

into the 12 pack...hopefully would've hit at least 9-10 beers

really made the motherfucker work for his 2 beers he finally got to drink

10/2/2013 11:59:20 AM

i do find it interesting how some people are fine with using deadly force in defense of property. we have (rightfully in my mind) decided that human life is never more valuable than property, and so it is not acceptable to use deadly force in defense of property. it really is no different than saying the appropriate punishment for theft is the death penalty.

i think the absurdity of killing a thief or other criminal in mid act becomes obvious if you arrested the same guy for stealing beer and then said he deserved to be executed as a punishment. it's very les miserables.

10/2/2013 11:59:28 AM

last time I checked, it was life, liberty, and property. beer is property. the guy has it coming, fuck thieves

10/2/2013 11:59:32 AM

beer is arguably all three

10/2/2013 12:02:06 PM

good point

10/2/2013 12:04:07 PM

you forgot pursuit of happiness. extremist.

10/2/2013 12:07:32 PM

Don't all stores carry some level of insurance that covers simple theft? Ridiculous to kill someone for stealing a 12-pack.

10/2/2013 12:14:29 PM

^^^^What if your survival depends on the property that is being stolen? Obviously that isn't the case here, but it is a rhetorical question worth debating.

10/2/2013 12:14:58 PM

that would certainly make it more justified. but this was over $10.

10/2/2013 12:17:04 PM

shouldve stolen the beer from Walmart or some evil megacorporation

not some small business

10/2/2013 12:22:46 PM

maybe he intended for his pregnant wife to consume the beer and therefore the store owner was protecting the welfare of a child

10/2/2013 12:30:05 PM

maybe that baby would be the next hitler unless he gets fetal alcohol syndrome

10/2/2013 12:32:23 PM

Maybe Hitler had fetal alcohol syndrome?

10/2/2013 12:54:02 PM

Maybe you don't know what anybody is going to do when you steal from them. Maybe you should think about that before you steal shit. A healthy fear among criminals isn't entirely a bad thing.

10/2/2013 1:00:55 PM

But who watches The Watchmen?

10/2/2013 1:10:07 PM

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"we have (rightfully in my mind) decided that human life is never more valuable than property, and so it is not acceptable to use deadly force in defense of property."

you mean always right?

10/2/2013 1:13:40 PM

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"last time I checked, it was life, liberty, and property. beer is property. the guy has it coming, fuck thieves"

When was the last time you checked?

10/3/2013 1:44:25 AM

^^haha, yeah...

10/3/2013 2:00:12 AM

perhaps the man stealing the beer was wearing a hoodie...

OH SNAP! Too soon?

10/3/2013 4:14:33 AM

This is why the world is fucked up.

Person A does something to make person B upset. Person B shoots person A.

Maybe people speeding really makes person B angry. Does he have a right to go murder them? It could affect his life in the form of an accident. So why not nip it in the bud?

We really are abunch of animals.

10/3/2013 10:32:33 AM

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"You are King Shitheel if you fucking shoot a human being over a fucking 12-pack of beer, shooting to kill or not."

10/3/2013 10:40:22 AM

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"We really are abunch of animals."

Yup. You know the defense is going to have some sort of medical diagnosis to attribute to his bad decision to advert his guilt...

10/3/2013 11:18:39 AM

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"some sort of medical diagnosis to attribute to his bad decision to advert his guilt"

sadly, that's how it goes right?

hopefully we'll get an update on this when it goes to trial...

10/3/2013 11:22:24 AM

Two for the road, bitch

He was being charitable

10/3/2013 4:37:45 PM

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"Maybe people speeding really makes person B angry. Does he have a right to go murder them?"

What a terrible analogy

This is more similar to someone going in your car and stealing $10 worth of change from your ashtray, and then you murder them

10/3/2013 4:58:22 PM

^ who are you to tell someone what they think does or does not infringe on their rights as an American?

Also it's an anology to show how retarded this all is.

10/3/2013 9:56:07 PM

It really is a turrible analogy. And I don't know WTF you're talking about with this "does or does not infringe on their rights as an American"

10/3/2013 10:03:10 PM

I am surprised he was charged, you have the right to defend your property with deadly force in Texas. While this case is a bit different, I am all for killing someone for robbing you, those people are absolute scum and the world would be better off without them.

10/3/2013 10:03:40 PM

THe thief did not break and enter the guy's house. It was a store and it could have been a misunderstanding. Sounds like manslaughter

10/3/2013 10:15:35 PM

i've never heard of it being legal to defend property with deadly force. there are castle doctrine laws that say you can kill anyone in your home, but that is legal under a different premise than the one here.

for a really fucked up case, see People v. Du, about a Korean store owner who shot a girl in the head over some orange juice and after conviction served no time.

http://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/criminal-law/criminal-law-keyed-to-dressler/principles-of-punishment/people-v-du/

10/3/2013 10:20:53 PM