synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Feel like watching a six-minute video of a motorcycle gang chasing a black SUV through New York City before the gang surrounds the car and smashes in its windows? Sure you do.
Yesterday afternoon, for reasons that aren’t clear, a large motorcycle gang surrounded a black Range Rover on New York City’s West Side Highway, forcing the SUV to stop. The SUV’s driver, who was reportedly traveling with his wife and five-month-old daughter, runs over two of the bikes and speeds off. The bikes give chase — one of the motorcyclist’s helmet cam captures the entire chase — and follow the Range Rover as it eventually exits into Manhattan. At a stoplight, the gang again attempts to get to the driver, pulling open his door, before the SUV drives away. The gang catches up to the SUV at another stoplight, at which point one rider takes off his helmet and smashes in the Range Rover’s passenger window. Then the camera cuts off.
The New York Daily News spoke to an NYPD spokesman, who confirmed the chase and said the bikers beat the SUV’s driver and slashed his face. The man was treated at a nearby hospital for his injuries and release. Police say they’re still investigating the incident." |
http://gawker.com/here-s-video-of-a-violent-high-speed-motorcycle-chase-i-1427071686]9/30/2013 3:28:14 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
misplacement of Black in the title of the video 9/30/2013 3:44:35 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
wild guess that the SUV had a near miss with one/some of the bikes beforehand 9/30/2013 4:33:52 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
Says in full article that one cut him off and he tapped the back tire at slow speed. They got up in his shit. He got scared so he booked it knocking over 3 bikes and breaking a dudes leg. 9/30/2013 7:35:25 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
but we don't know what happened before that 9/30/2013 7:48:59 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
IBTL 9/30/2013 7:54:38 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
It looked like the guy on the white bike was trying to be an asshole. I would have done the same thing. All those Niggs trying to run shit. I would have called the cops and told them what was about to happen 9/30/2013 8:27:47 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ you can see that in the video. The question is what happened before, and why were the stopping traffic on the freeway.
People don't just freak out like that for no reason.
[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .] 9/30/2013 8:29:13 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that one cut him off and he tapped the back tire at slow speed" |
If you watch the video you'll see the biker brake check the SUV (never a wise idea on a bike). The biker caused the incident.
Quote : | "but we don't know what happened before that" |
before the biker brake checked the SUV? seems like a dumb thing to do, regardless of what might have happened before.9/30/2013 8:53:36 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
fuck this shit, i would have been side swiping every one of the cocksuckers that got near me at that point 9/30/2013 9:06:04 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
he shouldn't have exited off the freeway. the freeway was his safe zone, and he could have called 911 while on the freeway at speed and the cops would have caught up with the swarm of thugs.
once he exited, he was done.
Quote : | "before the biker brake checked the SUV? seems like a dumb thing to do, regardless of what might have happened before." |
true, but we need to know how it started. they already seem to be chasing him when the video starts, so, obviously the video doesn't start from the beginning of the confrontation.
hope whoever is at fault (obviously some of the bikers for escalating it and smashing his car and cutting his face) is put away.
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when a murderous asshole chased me and toyed around to try to get me to crash on the highway, i stayed on the highway and even went past my exit, because i knew that if i took my exit, he would come and smash my car at the first light, which is just half a mile after the exit.
[Edited on September 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM. Reason : ]9/30/2013 9:20:08 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
he shouldn't have gotten off the highway, yea, but he probably should have thrown that shit in reverse and run over more of the faggots 9/30/2013 9:23:18 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
You are the worst person besides emce to have an econvo with 9/30/2013 9:24:32 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and then get killed? 9/30/2013 9:40:58 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, i guess if i'm scared out of my fucking mind i'd just sit there 9/30/2013 10:00:45 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
this link from chit chat gives a load of details, basically a written commentary of the video, plus it also has a 2 minute news clip which breaks the whole thing down into a nice compact summary.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pack-motorcyclists-chase-man-suv-attack-upper-manhattan-street-fender-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585
and it says that the whole thing probably started with the SUV accidentally slightly bumping the biker in front of him. when he stopped, they started damaging his car, and he feared for his safety and that's why drove off knocking some of them down and breaking the leg of one of them.
if that really IS how it started, fuck the bikers. hope they all get thrown into jail or get knocked over and break their legs. they are nothing but ugly terrorists. he had his wife and 2 year old daughter in the car, and when they finally caught up with him, also tried to smash the rear window where his daughter was in a car seat.
they pulled him out of his car, punched and cut his face. pictures show blood on the street. poor dude was out with his family for his first anniversary.
9/30/2013 10:05:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
The bike is clearly at fault in the video
Bunch of squids, hopefully they all end up as organ donors 9/30/2013 10:14:08 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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That would have ended with broken bikes and bones everywhere, and 15+ holes in people where they don't belong/ glad it wasn't me. 9/30/2013 10:31:44 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^ 9/30/2013 11:07:39 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
ha, wife and kid in the car?
id kill them all. 10/1/2013 1:07:27 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
http://youtu.be/UmmXGbFASC0
[Edited on October 1, 2013 at 2:02 AM. Reason : ok] 10/1/2013 2:00:52 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That would have ended with broken bikes and bones everywhere, and 15+ holes in people where they don't belong/ glad it wasn't me." |
there was a lot more than 15 bikers, you would take the risk that none of them were going to return fire with your wife and child in the car? i would not, i would have just thrown it in reverse and run away while calling the cops.10/1/2013 9:14:13 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
this is why we have a need for laws...dumbass bikers 10/1/2013 9:25:28 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
"The Road Warrior" shit going on here. 10/1/2013 12:08:19 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
typical biker attitude.
worthless people. 10/1/2013 1:10:05 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ don't insult worthless people. These are people with negative worth, as they go around terrorizing people, destroying their property, and beating them up. They are criminals, plain and simple. 10/1/2013 1:13:57 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Actually it looks like less than half of the group of bikers chose to participate in the mob violence.
Bikers feel vulnerable, and for good reason. They are at increased risk to be maimed or killed by every other vehicle on the road except maybe scooters. So, they seek safety in numbers. But this can be dangerous, as the same group that provides a biker more visibility on the road can also have a mind of its own, especially when the group gets too large. There was a similar video posted recently from the west coast where almost the same thing happened- a large group of riders converged on someone in a shitty car on the highway. The driver of the car got extremely nervous and sideswiped one, they others retaliated and it got ugly. What it comes down to is you have to own up to the fact that if you get on a bike, some bad shit might happen. You guys that ride, isn't that what is so rewarding about it anyhow?
I see both sides here, but everyone would have been better off if the guy hadn't moved after the first incident where everyone stopped. Even if the first guy down (white bike) wanted to fight, or one of his buddies wanted to fight, it is pretty likely someone would have been able to stop it before the Range Rover guy got a full on beat down/buck-fifty. The other guys stopped in the middle of the highway would probably have moved, even if just to the shoulder and the urgency of things might have diffused some while they waited on the authorities. But once he blatantly ran over those two bikes, he couldn't un-kick that hornet nest. In the end, he got what he got, his wife and kid weren't harmed, and hopefully the bikers who assaulted him can be identified?
But if it were me, after running over the bikes I would have never slowed back down. One or two bikes keeping up with you isn't so bad. They are likely just along to tail him and not prepared for violence. As mentioned before, exiting into Manhattan was a mistake unless you are prepared to do some sidewalk driving or can get to a police station very VERY quickly. 10/1/2013 1:45:58 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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The articles all said, when they stopped him, they started damaging his car, and then some got off their bikes and started to approach. That is when he decided to get the hell out of dodge. 10/1/2013 2:11:02 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I see both sides here, but everyone would have been better off if the guy hadn't moved after the first incident where everyone stopped. Even if the first guy down (white bike) wanted to fight, or one of his buddies wanted to fight, it is pretty likely someone would have been able to stop it before the Range Rover guy got a full on beat down/buck-fifty. The other guys stopped in the middle of the highway would probably have moved, even if just to the shoulder and the urgency of things might have diffused some while they waited on the authorities." |
True in hindsight, and he might have done that if he were alone. But with a wife and TWO year old in the car, he got into survival mode and I can't blame him for what he did. Knowing that you are in a situation where your child might get injured is not a good place to be in. Having said that, this wasn't Africa or Asia where a mob wouldn't think twice about lynching women and children as well, so perhaps he should have thought a bit more rationally and stayed put. IF that's really how this whole thing started with him slightly bumping the bike we see in the video, they wouldn't have done anything to him after they all stopped. He would have profusely apologized (even though it was the biker's fault for braking like that), and they would have left him alone and been on their way.
Having said that, news accounts are saying that when they stopped at the beginning, they started damaging his car, and that's precisely why he feared for his safety and ran over the bikes and fled. So, in conclusion, the bikers started acting criminally and left him no choice but to act irrationally and flee even if that meant running over some bikes. If the bikers had acted rationally and maturely, he would have too and would have stayed put and the whole thing could have been resolved easily by him apologizing, but they started damaging his car, so screw them. They are terrorists.
[Edited on October 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ^ Beat me to it while I was typing]10/1/2013 2:16:13 PM |
stopdropnrol All American 3908 Posts user info edit post |
as far as the driver goes would he face charges if reverse hadn't stopped working and he had plowed through some of the bikers who were part of the group but weren't actively attacking him or his vehicle?? 10/1/2013 3:16:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
When 30 people of the same group surround you your car but only 4 are actively attacking your car, how the fuck do you choose who to plow over with a big ass car? You drive straight and get the fuck out of there.
See thread in chit chat about this. Someone posted an apparent pic of the terrorist who got plowed over (with a quote by his Reverend father that he may never walk again). Someone suggested that he might not be a bad person, as he wasn't the one who brake-checked the SUV. My response:
If he really is in that condition, good, fuck him.
If it is not true, fuck him even more.
His friend made the azn dude stop and got everybody in that situation, and then HE willingly took part in that unlawful situation and willingly stood in front of the car with the scared/cornered people that HE and his friends were terrorizing, so HE put himself in harm's way.
You don't corner a cat with kittens and and then complain when the cat scratches the duck out of our face.
CONTEND with the fact that you are a religious leader and you couldn't raise your son properly, he turned out to be a road traffic terrorist, and got what he deserved. 10/1/2013 3:26:44 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That would have ended with broken bikes and bones everywhere, and 15+ holes in people where they don't belong/ glad it wasn't me" |
And your whole family would have ended up dead/maimed. Looks like that concealed carry permit got your mind jaded. Typical Rambo fantasy that is common to gun nuts out there. Best thing to do in this situation, like most everyone said, was to try to diffuse the situation right away, and then call the cops, or if that didn't work, keep driving on the freeway and calling the cops.
Biker's vengeance attitude is also typical squid shit. If he ran into one of the bikes, it would have been best to call the cops and calmly hold him there until they arrived. Most states have legal provisions for citizens' arrest. If he tried to run like he did, maybe have some people track him, but still call the cops and stay behind the car at all times.10/1/2013 3:34:05 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
bottom line? shitbag bikers shouldn't be on the streets on their death machines. the bikers instigated this. end of story. 10/1/2013 4:06:37 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ujSkztMRrs
They were doing stupid stuff earlier in the day too.
They had it coming. 10/1/2013 4:13:20 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
They definitely act like a bunch of dicks, riding on sidewalks, stopping traffic, beating on cars.
Quote : | "shitbag bikers people shouldn't be on the streets on their death machines" |
Apparently not much we can do about it. A number of shitbags in this country, on this board, in our government. If there was only a way to outlaw shitbags.10/1/2013 4:29:13 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And your whole family would have ended up dead/maimed. Looks like that concealed carry permit got your mind jaded. Typical Rambo fantasy that is common to gun nuts out there. Best thing to do in this situation, like most everyone said, was to try to diffuse the situation right away, and then call the cops, or if that didn't work, keep driving on the freeway and calling the cops.
Biker's vengeance attitude is also typical squid shit. If he ran into one of the bikes, it would have been best to call the cops and calmly hold him there until they arrived. Most states have legal provisions for citizens' arrest. If he tried to run like he did, maybe have some people track him, but still call the cops and stay behind the car at all times." |
Quality post.10/1/2013 6:11:22 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, +1 10/1/2013 6:32:20 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Once they got stuck in traffic it was game on. The guy putting a helmet through my window would have received a bullet.
I would not have gotten off the highway, and would have been doing about 90- 100 while the wife was on the phone with the police. I would have escaped the same way the driver did from the original stop.
Nothing Rambo fantasy about it.
Wait, you would have held 30 bikers there while waiting for the cops.... I'm sure that would work.
NC has no provision for citizens arrest. 10/1/2013 7:33:19 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
No one is talking about citizens arrest, we are talking about getting the duck out of there. Shooting that guy could have gotten your wife or child shot, if it was me I would have deescalated by not playing into their bullshit and running away. Stay in the car and flee, don't encourage them to escalate.
But okay Texas Ranger, you should all those bad guys with 15 bullets and hope none of them are carrying 10/1/2013 7:57:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Have an hour to spare?
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427
Quote : | "Footage that the NYC bikers didnt want you to see (7 more)
Naturally, as we've seen so many times in the past, if you upload something of interest on the internet, it's not going to go away just because you removed it. In this case, a Liveleak user purportedly downloaded the videos from Michelinman900's channel and shared them with the world.
"A few videos pulled from the guy's YouTube account which he has now removed because it shows the behavior of the group at what I believe is before the incident with the Range Rover," said userMixedWithFruit.
There's roughly an hour's worth of footage in the seven videos, in which the bikers are more of a nuisance, though, sometimes, they do put themselves and other drivers to risk with their actions. For example, they pass red lights on several occasions (4th video at the 1:20 mark and 6th video at 10:00)), they enter opposite lanes, and ride on pedestrian sidewalks (last video at the 1:15 mark)." |
BTW, why did they post any of the videos online? Are they stupid?10/1/2013 8:12:00 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
The honestly thought they were justified, in the original... The others, yes they were stupid. Best part, the uploaded posted a video of him entering his pin number. Moron. 10/1/2013 8:18:26 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Once they got stuck in traffic it was game on. The guy putting a helmet through my window would have received a bullet." |
By the time he was stuck in traffic, shit was already escalated way out of hand. Someone in the comments section with the last link already went through the trouble of typing this, so here is a breakdown of how things would have gone in that case:
Quote : | "Okay, I am neither a proponent or opponent of stricter gun laws, but I've seen tons of people (on various sites) respond to this story with something along the lines of "just another example of why the RR driver should have been able to carry a concealed gun."
Can someone please explain how that would have helped the situation at all? It seems to me that if he had a gun and had shot at the bikers at any point, than any scenario that followed would have been worse than what actually occurred. A few of the possible fact patterns if the RR driver had a gun are:
1) the bikers have guns and shoot back, killing him and his family
2) he kills some bikers, gets charged with manslaughter, has to go through the court system to explain why it was all in self defense
3) shots are fired that hit other drivers on the road that aren't involved in the incident, at least damaging their vehicles if not their persons
4) If the bikers don't have guns, I still don't see them completely backing down if they were shot at. There were a crapload of them. They could have started bashing in the back window. Then what is he gonna do? Shoot at them over his child that was in the back seat? That doesn't seem like it would end well either.
Again, I don't fall on either side of the gun debate, but I don't get how him having a gun would have helped this situation. There is one possible way things could have ended where having a gun would have helped him (he fires, and scares the bikers away). To me, in this situation, that outcome seems EXTREMELY unlikely. If he had had a gun, my money is on one of the many, many more way, way worse outcomes, most of which involve death. I'm not so keen on needless death. Especially when it could be the death of an innocent child. Just sayin. Today 5:55pm" |
10/1/2013 8:35:23 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah even though some people are all gung ho about shooting them all up, it is a complete non-issue if you ask me.
You can point a gun at 2-3 people, but not at 20-30 people. What would happen after you shoot the one breaking your window? They will all attack from different angles at the same time so you will shoot a few more of them and then go down in the end anyway, AND probably end up dead from a dozen people beating you up at the same time. Plus you would have killed a few people, I guess justifiably, but killing a few people is sure to haunt you for a while, in case you survive.
(This is all assuming they aren't loaded, because if some of them are, after you shoot the first one, you can say goodbye to your life and most probably your family's life) 10/1/2013 9:02:17 PM |
Moox All American 612 Posts user info edit post |
I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?
-Harry Callahan
No one is going to willfully volunteer to see whether or not the fleeing driver has ran out of ammo. Your argument is flawed. 10/1/2013 9:48:20 PM |